On 08/31/2011 09:56 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Yes, both of those are true. I just get a bit irked that the issue keeps
> getting raised as if it's some stunning new discovery and the anaconda
> team has been hideously lax in not caring about it, because it's
> well-known and they _do_ care about
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 03:36:52PM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 13:33:06 -0700,
> Jeremiah Summers wrote:
> >
> > Yes Literally I did, but as Adam just pointed out running Live just
> > dumps the squashfs image to the drive and slaps grud on it. I'm not
>
> It actual
On Tue, 2011-08-30 at 21:11 -0700, Jeremiah Summers wrote:
> I would say thank you but the tone I'm getting in the email seems
> rather reluctant to try and be as memory efficient as possible, a
> little bit like "we just did it to stop your whining". I'm sure that's
> not the tone you mean and ev
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 22:02 +0200, drago01 wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Brian C. Lane wrote:
>> > On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 04:15:37PM -0700, a...@clueserver.org wrote:
>> >>
>> >> In both cases I had 2 gigs of ram. Should not
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 15:22:21 -0700,
John Reiser wrote:
> > It would be nice to get rid of the embedded ext4 image now that squashfs
> > supports special files and extended attributes (needed for selinuix labels),
> > but there are some other roadblocks that will block that change for the nea
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 15:22:21 -0700,
John Reiser wrote:
> > It would be nice to get rid of the embedded ext4 image now that squashfs
> > supports special files and extended attributes (needed for selinuix labels),
> > but there are some other roadblocks that will block that change for the nea
> It would be nice to get rid of the embedded ext4 image now that squashfs
> supports special files and extended attributes (needed for selinuix labels),
> but there are some other roadblocks that will block that change for the near
> future.
Where is this issue being tracked?
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On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 14:36, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 13:33:06 -0700,
> Jeremiah Summers wrote:
>>
>> Yes Literally I did, but as Adam just pointed out running Live just
>> dumps the squashfs image to the drive and slaps grud on it. I'm not
>
> It actually dumps the ext
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 13:33:06 -0700,
Jeremiah Summers wrote:
>
> Yes Literally I did, but as Adam just pointed out running Live just
> dumps the squashfs image to the drive and slaps grud on it. I'm not
It actually dumps the ext4 image on the drive and then resizes it to
fit the available s
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
> On 2011/08/29 15:04 (GMT-0700) Jeremiah Summers composed:
>
>> I just repatched Anaconda to use 512M
>
> Literally? If so, does that work on systems with 512M installed but with 8M
> allocated to an onboard video chip?
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On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 15:04 -0700, Jeremiah Summers wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> > Brian C. Lane wrote:
> >> selinux is a big example of
> >> this, causing a large spike as it is installed.
> >
> > That should[1] no longer be an issue.
> >
> > [1] http://d
On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 22:02 +0200, drago01 wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Brian C. Lane wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 04:15:37PM -0700, a...@clueserver.org wrote:
> >>
> >> In both cases I had 2 gigs of ram. Should not be a memory issue.
> >
> > That is more than enough. Please fil
On 2011/08/29 15:04 (GMT-0700) Jeremiah Summers composed:
> I just repatched Anaconda to use 512M
Literally? If so, does that work on systems with 512M installed but with 8M
allocated to an onboard video chip?
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On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> Brian C. Lane wrote:
>> selinux is a big example of
>> this, causing a large spike as it is installed.
>
> That should[1] no longer be an issue.
>
> [1] http://danwalsh.livejournal.com/45414.html
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On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Brian C. Lane wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 04:15:37PM -0700, a...@clueserver.org wrote:
>>
>> In both cases I had 2 gigs of ram. Should not be a memory issue.
>
> That is more than enough. Please file a bug(s) and include the logs
> from /tmp/*log
>
> Memory us
Brian C. Lane wrote:
> selinux is a big example of
> this, causing a large spike as it is installed.
That should[1] no longer be an issue.
[1] http://danwalsh.livejournal.com/45414.html
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On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 04:15:37PM -0700, a...@clueserver.org wrote:
>
> In both cases I had 2 gigs of ram. Should not be a memory issue.
That is more than enough. Please file a bug(s) and include the logs
from /tmp/*log
Memory usage during install also depends on what the packages being
install
On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 05:35:19PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> Why does it need so much to start with?
Because the installer initrd contains the kitchen sink.
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On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 8:47 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 06:47:37PM -0500, David Lehman wrote:
>> On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 23:13 -0700, a...@clueserver.org wrote:
>> > I have tried installing Fedora 16 alpha (i386 version) on VMWare player
>> > and it dies starting up the
On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 08:08:20AM +, Andre Robatino wrote:
> Richard W.M. Jones redhat.com> writes:
>
> > 768 MB!!!
> >
> > When I want to stuff as many VMs onto a virtual machine as possible,
> > RAM usage really matters. Particularly since RAM is currently cheap
> > up to about 8 GB but
> On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 06:47:37PM -0500, David Lehman wrote:
>> On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 23:13 -0700, a...@clueserver.org wrote:
>> > I have tried installing Fedora 16 alpha (i386 version) on VMWare
>> player
>> > and it dies starting up the installer.
>> >
>> > It also dies trying to install on my
Richard W.M. Jones redhat.com> writes:
> 768 MB!!!
>
> When I want to stuff as many VMs onto a virtual machine as possible,
> RAM usage really matters. Particularly since RAM is currently cheap
> up to about 8 GB but becomes much more expensive above that (ie. up to
> about 6 VMs with all the o
On 08/27/2011 12:17 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> 768 MB!!!
>
> When I want to stuff as many VMs onto a virtual machine as possible,
> RAM usage really matters. Particularly since RAM is currently cheap
> up to about 8 GB but becomes much more expensive above that (ie. up to
> about 6 VMs with a
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 06:47:37PM -0500, David Lehman wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 23:13 -0700, a...@clueserver.org wrote:
> > I have tried installing Fedora 16 alpha (i386 version) on VMWare player
> > and it dies starting up the installer.
> >
> > It also dies trying to install on my CTL 2GO
being developed,
> is not complete today.
>
> > How much memory will anaconda require to install Fedora 16?
>
> Anaconda requires 768MB, and more (>=1GB) if there is no swap partition.
>
> > I'd love to see reduced memory requirements for anaconda in F16
re the initrd was just stage1, that was enough infrastructure to
find and launch stage2. Moving it into the initrd resolved a lot of
outstanding issues with Anaconda, and removed a lot of duplicate code that was
difficult to maintain.
There was a jump in memory requirements, as now all of that c
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 16:02:08 -0600,
Pete Zaitcev wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 11:31:55 -0700
> John Reiser wrote:
>
> > > How much memory will anaconda require to install Fedora 16?
> >
> > Anaconda requires 768MB, and more (>=1GB) if there is no swap partition.
>
> It is not just Anac
On Sat, 2011-08-20 at 16:02 -0600, Pete Zaitcev wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 11:31:55 -0700
> John Reiser wrote:
>
> > > How much memory will anaconda require to install Fedora 16?
> >
> > Anaconda requires 768MB, and more (>=1GB) if there is no swap partition.
>
> It is not just Anaconda. F1
Johannes Lips googlemail.com> writes:
> what about using the Text Mode for the install? [1]
> According to the release notes it only needs 256MB of RAM so I think it
> should be feasible, or? [2]
> Are there anything preventing the usage of the textmode?
Unfortunately, those numbers are way out
Hello,
what about using the Text Mode for the install? [1]
According to the release notes it only needs 256MB of RAM so I think it
should be feasible, or? [2]
Are there anything preventing the usage of the textmode?
Best regards,
Johannes
[1]
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/15/htm
On 08/21/2011 10:51 AM, Aditya Patawari wrote:
>> Use the installer that is available on a Live spin, instead of using
>> anaconda.
> Arun, lets use live installer. Anaconda won't help in schools. Live,
> anyway, has its advantages and kids/teachers can check it out before
> installation.
Live ins
> Use the installer that is available on a Live spin, instead of using
> anaconda.
Arun, lets use live installer. Anaconda won't help in schools. Live,
anyway, has its advantages and kids/teachers can check it out before
installation.
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On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 11:31:55 -0700
John Reiser wrote:
> > How much memory will anaconda require to install Fedora 16?
>
> Anaconda requires 768MB, and more (>=1GB) if there is no swap partition.
It is not just Anaconda. F15 GA kernel would not even uncompress
initramfs on anything below 1GB.
Would it be possible to create a custom image that just does a minimal (possibly
text-based) install? This might reduce memory requirements even more, and extra
packages could be added later - the DVD could be used as a repo if bandwidth is
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On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 20:31:55 +0200, John Reiser wrote:
> Anaconda requires 768MB, and more (>=1GB) if there is no swap partition.
[...]
> Use the installer that is available on a Live spin, instead of using
> anaconda.
This reduces the memory requirements by 128MB:
Fedora-
uire to install Fedora 16?
Anaconda requires 768MB, and more (>=1GB) if there is no swap partition.
> I'd love to see reduced memory requirements for anaconda in F16.
Use the installer that is available on a Live spin, instead of using
anaconda. Being "live" (running from media witho
duced memory requirements for anaconda in F16.
[1]
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2011-February/149110.html
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On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Chuck Anderson wrote:
>
> Why? So users can scroll back to see this helpful stuff and try to
> decipher what it means?
I guess you have a point --- perhaps F15 and Natty 11.04 Alpha 2 have
it right --- this afternoon, Natty bombed out with a message to the
effect
On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 06:47:55PM -0600, Larry Vaden wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> > On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 07:50:37AM -0800, John Reiser wrote:
> >> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=680542
> >>
> >> Much of this is not a bug, it is intentional.
On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 07:50:37AM -0800, John Reiser wrote:
>> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=680542
>>
>> Much of this is not a bug, it is intentional. The F14 way of
>
> That bug is that the kernel doesn't display a simpl
On Sat, 2011-02-26 at 11:17 -0500, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 07:50:37AM -0800, John Reiser wrote:
> > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=680542
> >
> > Much of this is not a bug, it is intentional. The F14 way of
>
> That bug is that the kernel doesn't display a
On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 07:50:37AM -0800, John Reiser wrote:
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=680542
>
> Much of this is not a bug, it is intentional. The F14 way of
That bug is that the kernel doesn't display a simple "out of memory"
error message, instead scrolling a huge trace
>>> http://anonbadger.wordpress.com/2011/02/25/need-more-memory/
>>> Why does Anaconda need more memory? Such changes really need to be
>>> coordinated and documented better. We need changes in several
>>> documentation including installation guide and release notes not to
>>> mention changes in
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 09:42:40PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Sat, 2011-02-26 at 10:51 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > http://anonbadger.wordpress.com/2011/02/25/need-more-memory/
> >
> > Why does Anaconda need more memory? Such changes really need to be
> > coordinated and d
On Sat, 2011-02-26 at 10:51 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Hi
>
> http://anonbadger.wordpress.com/2011/02/25/need-more-memory/
>
> Why does Anaconda need more memory? Such changes really need to be
> coordinated and documented better. We need changes in several
> documentation including install
Hi
http://anonbadger.wordpress.com/2011/02/25/need-more-memory/
Why does Anaconda need more memory? Such changes really need to be
coordinated and documented better. We need changes in several
documentation including installation guide and release notes not to
mention changes in the default RAM
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