Re: MATE desktop environment (GNOME 2 fork)

2012-01-27 Thread Eric Smith
Richard W.M. Jones wrote: [Reviving an old thread ...] Indeed this seems to be not just vapourware: http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/?p=119 I don't buy the arguments that MATE is vapourware, but building a new Gnome-2-like desktop on the Gnome 3 underpinnings obviously is easier and in the lon

Re: MATE desktop environment (GNOME 2 fork)

2012-01-26 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Dec 09, 2011 at 01:24:08PM +0100, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote: > On 12/09/2011 12:50 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > On 12/09/2011 03:50 AM, Eric Smith wrote: > >> I've submitted review requests for the first two packages for the MATE > >> desktop environment, mate-doc-utils and mate

Re: MATE desktop environment (GNOME 2 fork)

2011-12-11 Thread Zoltan Boszormenyi
2011-12-10 16:36 keltezéssel, Rahul Sundaram írta: > On 12/10/2011 03:30 PM, Zoltan Boszormenyi wrote: > u >> Not so fast, there was a point in time when >> the whole Linux development community >> was Linus Torvalds. Live and let live. > You would have a better point there if MATE was a new deskto

Re: MATE desktop environment (GNOME 2 fork)

2011-12-10 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/10/2011 03:30 PM, Zoltan Boszormenyi wrote: u > Not so fast, there was a point in time when > the whole Linux development community > was Linus Torvalds. Live and let live. You would have a better point there if MATE was a new desktop environment trying to grow a community. GNOME 2.x is a c

Re: MATE desktop environment (GNOME 2 fork)

2011-12-10 Thread Ralf Ertzinger
Hi. On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 11:00:55 +0100, Zoltan Boszormenyi wrote > Not so fast, there was a point in time when > the whole Linux development community > was Linus Torvalds. Live and let live. Yes, there was. But it was a) rather short, and b) did not have a codebase even remotely comparable to t

Re: MATE desktop environment (GNOME 2 fork)

2011-12-10 Thread Zoltan Boszormenyi
2011-12-09 11:34 keltezéssel, Kevin Kofler írta: >> and there is a development community. > LOL, a "community" called Timothy Pearson… > > Don't make me laugh. > > Kevin Kofler Not so fast, there was a point in time when the whole Linux development community was Linus Torvalds. Live and le

Re: MATE desktop environment (GNOME 2 fork)

2011-12-09 Thread Heiko Adams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Am 10.12.2011 01:20, schrieb Kevin Kofler: > So I'm sceptical about MATE (seeing what's going on with Trinity) > and I can only strongly discourage attempting to package Trinity. I agree to that point of view. IMHO MATE is a waste of time and manpow

Re: MATE desktop environment (GNOME 2 fork)

2011-12-09 Thread Kevin Kofler
Rahul Sundaram wrote: > It is not useful to generalize. There are lots of software components > which aren't actively maintained but are useful to have in the > distribution and all distributions have them however a desktop > environment is a lot of work to maintain (as seen for instance in > http:

Re: MATE desktop environment (GNOME 2 fork)

2011-12-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/09/2011 05:42 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 12/09/2011 11:58 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: one >> developer? I am worried about sustainability. >>> > > How can you be worried about maintainability given that we >>> already have >>> > unmaintained and poorly maintained pac

Re: MATE desktop environment (GNOME 2 fork)

2011-12-09 Thread Dennis Jacobfeuerborn
On 12/09/2011 12:50 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 12/09/2011 03:50 AM, Eric Smith wrote: >> I've submitted review requests for the first two packages for the MATE >> desktop environment, mate-doc-utils and mate-corba. MATE is a fork of >> GNOME 2. I expect that it will take me a few mon

Re: MATE desktop environment (GNOME 2 fork)

2011-12-09 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 12/09/2011 11:58 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >>> one >>> >> developer? I am worried about sustainability. >> > >> > How can you be worried about maintainability given that we already have >> > unmaintained and poorly maintained packages in the distribution? > When you have problems, the solu

Re: MATE desktop environment (GNOME 2 fork)

2011-12-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/09/2011 05:17 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 12/09/2011 04:12 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> On 12/09/2011 09:20 AM, Eric Smith wrote: >>> I've submitted review requests for the first two packages for the MATE >>> desktop environment, mate-doc-utils and mate-corba. MATE is a fork of >

Re: MATE desktop environment (GNOME 2 fork)

2011-12-09 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 12/09/2011 03:50 AM, Eric Smith wrote: > I've submitted review requests for the first two packages for the MATE > desktop environment, mate-doc-utils and mate-corba. MATE is a fork of > GNOME 2. I expect that it will take me a few months to package the > remaining MATE packages. > > Would anyo

Re: MATE desktop environment (GNOME 2 fork)

2011-12-09 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 12/09/2011 04:12 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 12/09/2011 09:20 AM, Eric Smith wrote: >> I've submitted review requests for the first two packages for the MATE >> desktop environment, mate-doc-utils and mate-corba. MATE is a fork of >> GNOME 2. I expect that it will take me a few months to pa

Re: MATE desktop environment (GNOME 2 fork)

2011-12-09 Thread Kevin Kofler
Michał Piotrowski wrote: > What do you think about Trinity Desktop? I liked KDE3. Is there a > chance to include this DE in Fedora? Please NO! We worked hard on making kdelibs3 apps work well in KDE Plasma 4 sessions. Trying to support Trinity sessions too is going to make a big mess. Another big

Re: MATE desktop environment (GNOME 2 fork)

2011-12-09 Thread Frank Murphy
On 09/12/11 07:03, Eric Smith wrote: > > I tried switching to Xfce, and found it to be a lot better than Gnome 3, > but it was still missing a lot of things I'm accustomed to in Gnome 2. > > I'm not trying to start another advocacy thread. I'm just trying to > package up an alternative for people

Re: MATE desktop environment (GNOME 2 fork)

2011-12-09 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi, What do you think about Trinity Desktop? I liked KDE3. Is there a chance to include this DE in Fedora? Unlike the MATE, TD is well maintained and there is a development community. -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://ad

Re: MATE desktop environment (GNOME 2 fork)

2011-12-09 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Donnerstag, den 08.12.2011, 19:50 -0800 schrieb Eric Smith: > I've submitted review requests for the first two packages for the MATE > desktop environment, mate-doc-utils and mate-corba. MATE is a fork of > GNOME 2. MATE is just replacing "gnome" with "mate" everywhere, whether or not it w

Re: MATE desktop environment (GNOME 2 fork)

2011-12-08 Thread Eric Smith
Peter Lemenkov wrote: > I'd rather help others with transition to Gnome3, as some active members of our local > community (Russian Fedora) does. I've spent months trying to get used to Gnome 3, and had lots of help from various people, and I still can't stand it. Yes, I know that there are p

Re: MATE desktop environment (GNOME 2 fork)

2011-12-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2011-12-09 at 09:24 +0300, Peter Lemenkov wrote: > Hello > > 2011/12/9 Eric Smith : > > I've submitted review requests for the first two packages for the MATE > > desktop environment, mate-doc-utils and mate-corba. MATE is a fork of > > GNOME 2. I expect that it will take me a few months

Re: MATE desktop environment (GNOME 2 fork)

2011-12-08 Thread Peter Lemenkov
Hello 2011/12/9 Eric Smith : > I've submitted review requests for the first two packages for the MATE > desktop environment, mate-doc-utils and mate-corba.  MATE is a fork of > GNOME 2.  I expect that it will take me a few months to package the > remaining MATE packages. Mate is unmaintained (e.

Re: MATE desktop environment (GNOME 2 fork)

2011-12-08 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/09/2011 09:20 AM, Eric Smith wrote: > I've submitted review requests for the first two packages for the MATE > desktop environment, mate-doc-utils and mate-corba. MATE is a fork of > GNOME 2. I expect that it will take me a few months to package the > remaining MATE packages. > > Would

MATE desktop environment (GNOME 2 fork)

2011-12-08 Thread Eric Smith
I've submitted review requests for the first two packages for the MATE desktop environment, mate-doc-utils and mate-corba. MATE is a fork of GNOME 2. I expect that it will take me a few months to package the remaining MATE packages. Would anyone like to see the MATE desktop environment as an