Re: LibreOffice packaging is a messy dependency graph

2015-12-05 Thread Kevin Kofler
Panu Matilainen wrote: > So the answer is no, dnf does not consider "install" of an already > installed packages to be equivalent of "mark install". I think it should > - user asking for a package to be installed does not get any more > explicit than "install ". Ouch, this is totally broken!

Re: LibreOffice packaging is a messy dependency graph

2015-12-02 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 12/02/2015 07:04 PM, Panu Matilainen wrote: On 12/02/2015 04:44 PM, Roberto Ragusa wrote: On 12/02/2015 02:42 PM, David Tardon wrote: On Tue, Dec 01, 2015 at 02:20:34AM -0500, Dan Book wrote: I have run into this before and it was very confusing, it really should be a separate command from

Re: LibreOffice packaging is a messy dependency graph

2015-12-02 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 12/02/2015 04:44 PM, Roberto Ragusa wrote: On 12/02/2015 02:42 PM, David Tardon wrote: On Tue, Dec 01, 2015 at 02:20:34AM -0500, Dan Book wrote: I have run into this before and it was very confusing, it really should be a separate command from remove for when you actually want to remove wha

Re: LibreOffice packaging is a messy dependency graph

2015-12-02 Thread Dan Book
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 8:42 AM, David Tardon wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Dec 01, 2015 at 02:20:34AM -0500, Dan Book wrote: > > I have run into this before and it was very confusing, it really should > be > > a separate command from remove for when you actually want to remove what > > dnf thinks is n

Re: LibreOffice packaging is a messy dependency graph

2015-12-02 Thread Mathieu Bridon
On Wed, 2015-12-02 at 15:44 +0100, Roberto Ragusa wrote: > On 12/02/2015 02:42 PM, David Tardon wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 01, 2015 at 02:20:34AM -0500, Dan Book wrote: > > > I have run into this before and it was very confusing, it really > > > should be > > > a separate command from remove for whe

Re: LibreOffice packaging is a messy dependency graph

2015-12-02 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 12/02/2015 02:42 PM, David Tardon wrote: > On Tue, Dec 01, 2015 at 02:20:34AM -0500, Dan Book wrote: >> I have run into this before and it was very confusing, it really should be >> a separate command from remove for when you actually want to remove what >> dnf thinks is now "unused". > > Why?

Re: LibreOffice packaging is a messy dependency graph

2015-12-02 Thread David Tardon
Hi, On Tue, Dec 01, 2015 at 02:20:34AM -0500, Dan Book wrote: > I have run into this before and it was very confusing, it really should be > a separate command from remove for when you actually want to remove what > dnf thinks is now "unused". Why? Remove is the opposite of install. "dnf install

Re: LibreOffice packaging is a messy dependency graph

2015-12-01 Thread Dan Book
Thank you for the information, but it is still confusing. What I mean by that is that there is no discoverability to why dnf is choosing to remove all the extra packages. So the user is left to assume that none of those packages can function without the one you want to remove. I spent half an hour

Re: LibreOffice packaging is a messy dependency graph

2015-12-01 Thread Igor Gnatenko
http://dnf.readthedocs.org/en/latest/command_ref.html#autoremove-command-label dnf autoremove will just remove dependencies which is not used by another packages. BTW you can ignore removing non-used packages for one transaction using option --setopt=clean_requirements_on_remove=false On Tue, De

Re: LibreOffice packaging is a messy dependency graph

2015-11-30 Thread Igor Gnatenko
# dnf autoremove On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 8:21 AM Dan Book wrote: > I have run into this before and it was very confusing, it really should be > a separate command from remove for when you actually want to remove what > dnf thinks is now "unused". > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 1:38 AM, Panu Matilaine

Re: LibreOffice packaging is a messy dependency graph

2015-11-30 Thread Dan Book
I have run into this before and it was very confusing, it really should be a separate command from remove for when you actually want to remove what dnf thinks is now "unused". On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 1:38 AM, Panu Matilainen wrote: > On 12/01/2015 07:02 AM, Christopher wrote: > >> What's the deal

Re: LibreOffice packaging is a messy dependency graph

2015-11-30 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 12/01/2015 07:02 AM, Christopher wrote: What's the deal with libreoffice packages being a dependency for so many system library packages? I try to `sudo dnf remove libreoffice\*` and it grabs a bunch of surprising packages with it, including some fonts and system libraries. Granted, I don't t

LibreOffice packaging is a messy dependency graph

2015-11-30 Thread Christopher
What's the deal with libreoffice packages being a dependency for so many system library packages? I try to `sudo dnf remove libreoffice\*` and it grabs a bunch of surprising packages with it, including some fonts and system libraries. Granted, I don't think I need any of these things, so it's prob