Re: Intent to package GNOME Shell frippery

2011-07-30 Thread seth vidal
On Sat, 2011-07-30 at 02:23 -0400, Jon Masters wrote: > So, just so I understand, the requirement/assumption is that all > machines will be online and pulling bits down directly from GNOME? That > won't map at all to enterprise or non-fully connected environments. It > needs to be possible to inst

Re: Intent to package GNOME Shell frippery

2011-07-30 Thread David Woodhouse
On Sat, 2011-07-30 at 02:23 -0400, Jon Masters wrote: > David: on the subject of your followup...my advice, by the way, is that > life is too short to continue to try to explain why GNOME Shell is > unusable for folks like you and I. I'd just switch to XFCE and be done > with it. My machines are a

Re: Intent to package GNOME Shell frippery

2011-07-29 Thread Jon Masters
On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 10:57 +0200, drago01 wrote: > Well in gnome 3.2 (which should be out for F16) extensions will be > like firefox extensions i.e you go to extensions.gnome.org and click > "install" to install an extension. > Distro packaged extensions are frowned upon upstream. So, just so I

Re: Intent to package GNOME Shell frippery

2011-07-29 Thread Jason D. Clinton
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 06:28, David Woodhouse wrote: > On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 11:15 +0200, drago01 wrote: >> >> Distro packaged extensions are frowned upon upstream. >> > >> > [citation needed] >> >> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-shell-list/2011-June/msg00164.html > > Seriously, who cares?

Re: Intent to package GNOME Shell frippery

2011-07-29 Thread David Woodhouse
On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 11:15 +0200, drago01 wrote: > >> Distro packaged extensions are frowned upon upstream. > > > > [citation needed] > > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-shell-list/2011-June/msg00164.html Seriously, who cares? Upstream are clearly on crack these days anyway. The best way

Re: Intent to package GNOME Shell frippery

2011-07-29 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 11:36:50 +0200 Tomasz Torcz wrote: > I would strongly prefer third parties not to reinvent whole > packaging and repositories concept. Some companies grasp it (I have > yum repos provided for Google Earth and Talk Plugin, Dell BIOSes and > firmwares, Adobe Flash and Air, Vir

Re: Intent to package GNOME Shell frippery

2011-07-29 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 11:31:35AM +0200, drago01 wrote: > 2011/7/29 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" : > > On 07/29/2011 09:21 AM, drago01 wrote: > >> 2011/7/29 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson": > >>> On 07/29/2011 08:57 AM, drago01 wrote: > Well in gnome 3.2 (which should be out for F16) extensions will be >

Re: Intent to package GNOME Shell frippery

2011-07-29 Thread drago01
2011/7/29 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" : > On 07/29/2011 09:21 AM, drago01 wrote: >> 2011/7/29 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson": >>> On 07/29/2011 08:57 AM, drago01 wrote: Well in gnome 3.2 (which should be out for F16) extensions will be like firefox extensions i.e you go to extensions.gnome.org and c

Re: Intent to package GNOME Shell frippery

2011-07-29 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 07/29/2011 09:21 AM, drago01 wrote: > 2011/7/29 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson": >> On 07/29/2011 08:57 AM, drago01 wrote: >>> Well in gnome 3.2 (which should be out for F16) extensions will be >>> like firefox extensions i.e you go to extensions.gnome.org and click >>> "install" to install an extension

Re: Intent to package GNOME Shell frippery

2011-07-29 Thread drago01
2011/7/29 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" : > On 07/29/2011 08:57 AM, drago01 wrote: >> Well in gnome 3.2 (which should be out for F16) extensions will be >> like firefox extensions i.e you go to extensions.gnome.org and click >> "install" to install an extension. >> Distro packaged extensions are frowned

Re: Intent to package GNOME Shell frippery

2011-07-29 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 07/29/2011 08:57 AM, drago01 wrote: > Well in gnome 3.2 (which should be out for F16) extensions will be > like firefox extensions i.e you go to extensions.gnome.org and click > "install" to install an extension. > Distro packaged extensions are frowned upon upstream. Is it not then better to s

Re: Intent to package GNOME Shell frippery

2011-07-29 Thread drago01
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Stijn Hoop wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 10:57:59 +0200 > drago01 wrote: > ... > >> Distro packaged extensions are frowned upon upstream. > > [citation needed] https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-shell-list/2011-June/msg00164.html -- devel mailing list

Re: Intent to package GNOME Shell frippery

2011-07-29 Thread Stijn Hoop
Hi, On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 10:57:59 +0200 drago01 wrote: ... > Distro packaged extensions are frowned upon upstream. [citation needed] --Stijn -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Intent to package GNOME Shell frippery

2011-07-29 Thread drago01
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi, > > On 07/29/2011 09:47 AM, David Woodhouse wrote: >> On Wed, 2011-06-01 at 10:48 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: >>> Just a quick heads-up that I plan to look unto packaging the >>> gnome shell frippery extensions this weekend, if you've th

Re: Intent to package GNOME Shell frippery

2011-07-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/29/2011 01:57 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > There does exit an [1] rpm and an srpm [2] here by the do we have > guidelines on how to package additional extensions I guess official and > unofficial ones? The only one we have is at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:NamingGuidel

Re: Intent to package GNOME Shell frippery

2011-07-29 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 07/29/2011 09:47 AM, David Woodhouse wrote: > On Wed, 2011-06-01 at 10:48 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: >> Just a quick heads-up that I plan to look unto packaging the >> gnome shell frippery extensions this weekend, if you've the >> same plans or are already working on this, please let me kn

Re: Intent to package GNOME Shell frippery

2011-07-29 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 07/29/2011 07:47 AM, David Woodhouse wrote: > On Wed, 2011-06-01 at 10:48 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: >> Just a quick heads-up that I plan to look unto packaging the >> gnome shell frippery extensions this weekend, if you've the >> same plans or are already working on this, please let me know. >

Re: Intent to package GNOME Shell frippery

2011-07-29 Thread David Woodhouse
On Wed, 2011-06-01 at 10:48 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: > Just a quick heads-up that I plan to look unto packaging the > gnome shell frippery extensions this weekend, if you've the > same plans or are already working on this, please let me know. > So we can avoid doing double work. Did you do thi

Re: Intent to package GNOME Shell frippery

2011-06-02 Thread tim.laurid...@gmail.com
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Ron Yorston wrote: > > I'd prefer them to be in one package: they are intended to work > > together. > > Except the Shut Down menu extension directly conflicts with the > alternative-status-menu extension. Sub-packages are the safest be

Re: Intent to package GNOME Shell frippery

2011-06-01 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Ron Yorston wrote: > I'd prefer them to be in one package: they are intended to work > together. Except the Shut Down menu extension directly conflicts with the alternative-status-menu extension. Sub-packages are the safest bet. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fe

Re: Intent to package GNOME Shell frippery

2011-06-01 Thread Mario Blättermann
Hi Ron, Am 01.06.2011 11:19, schrieb Ron Yorston: > Hans de Goede wrote: >> I plan to use 1 subpackage per extension of the frippery >> extension collection, so that people can install only those >> which they want without automatically getting all of >> them. > > I'd prefer them to be in one pack

Re: Intent to package GNOME Shell frippery

2011-06-01 Thread Ron Yorston
Hans de Goede wrote: >I plan to use 1 subpackage per extension of the frippery >extension collection, so that people can install only those >which they want without automatically getting all of >them. I'd prefer them to be in one package: they are intended to work together. I understand that mana

Intent to package GNOME Shell frippery

2011-06-01 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi all, Just a quick heads-up that I plan to look unto packaging the gnome shell frippery extensions this weekend, if you've the same plans or are already working on this, please let me know. So we can avoid doing double work. I plan to use 1 subpackage per extension of the frippery extension col