On 29 May 2015 at 02:34, Nadim Kobeissi wrote:
>
> Users simply don't care. If Fedora depletes what used to be an 11-hour
> battery on Windows/OS X in 6 hours instead, they'll simply switch back to
> their former OS within a week. I have years of experience with this scenario
> and I strongly thin
I respectfully acquiesce that making the kernel better is indeed the more
elegant and sound goal, engineering-wise. But I really think that it's just
not *realistic* to expect users to wait for kernel developers to fix the
very complex and demanding issue of battery life before they can have a
Fedo
>>* Do you think that the average user with a clicking sound card or disk
*>>* corruption when suspending would be able to make the link to this new
*>>* package?*
> Even better ... the integrated mouse pointer on my external ThinkPad USB
> keyboard stops working if USB suspend is enabled for this
On 28/05/15 12:57, Richard Hughes wrote:
> On 28 May 2015 at 11:21, Nadim Kobeissi wrote:
>> 1: My understanding is that tlp ships with a default configuration that,
>> without any modification, will enable reasonable settings for power saving.
>
> I think what the kernel is providing is reason
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 02:18:21PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
> Doesn't tuned already do something similar to this?
These are the exact words I just typed in another message. :)
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On 05/28/2015 02:11 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> Actually, it *does* sound like this package might provide a way to
> mitigate that situation (single kernel). If tlp can accept a
> configuration file for what tweaks to make, then we can use the per
> -product config feature to allow us to set ce
On Thu, 2015-05-28 at 11:57 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
> On 28 May 2015 at 11:21, Nadim Kobeissi wrote:
> > 1: My understanding is that tlp ships with a default configuration
> > that,
> > without any modification, will enable reasonable settings for power
> > saving.
>
> I think what the ker
On 28 May 2015 at 11:21, Nadim Kobeissi wrote:
> 1: My understanding is that tlp ships with a default configuration that,
> without any modification, will enable reasonable settings for power saving.
I think what the kernel is providing is reasonable, from a regression
/ feature point of view. I
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Richard Hughes
wrote:
> On 28 May 2015 at 10:45, Nadim Kobeissi wrote:
> > I would like to suggest that tlp [0] be included with Fedora Workstation
> by
> > default, starting with Fedora 23.
>
> Why can't we just use the correct defaults? Having a "configure all
On 28 May 2015 at 10:45, Nadim Kobeissi wrote:
> I would like to suggest that tlp [0] be included with Fedora Workstation by
> default, starting with Fedora 23.
Why can't we just use the correct defaults? Having a "configure all
the things" version of powertop isn't going to help anybody but the
Hi,
I would like to suggest that tlp [0] be included with Fedora Workstation by
default, starting with Fedora 23.
tlp is already a well-maintained Fedora package [1], is quite stable, and
achieves dramatic battery life and laptop optimization gains without having
to run a daemon or a background pr
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