On 01/11/18 17:31, mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 8:32 AM, Neal Gompa wrote:
>> These are questions I'm interested in answers on. However, I'm also
>> worried about how much the "cloud" was mentioned in the presser. It
>> makes me nervous about Red Hat's investment into other
On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 8:32 AM, Neal Gompa wrote:
These are questions I'm interested in answers on. However, I'm also
worried about how much the "cloud" was mentioned in the presser. It
makes me nervous about Red Hat's investment into other areas, which a
lot of the Linux ecosystem relies on, ev
On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 12:12 PM Peter Robinson wrote:
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> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 2:26 PM Neal Gompa wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 8:14 AM Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 4:48 PM Matthew Miller
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 07:44:12PM
On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 2:26 PM Neal Gompa wrote:
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> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 8:14 AM Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 4:48 PM Matthew Miller
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 07:44:12PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > > > It'd be nice if someone from up top woul
>
>
> These are questions I'm interested in answers on. However, I'm also
> worried about how much the "cloud" was mentioned in the presser. It
> makes me nervous about Red Hat's investment into other areas, which a
> lot of the Linux ecosystem relies on, even outside of the Fedora
> community. Des
On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 8:14 AM Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
>
> On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 4:48 PM Matthew Miller
> wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 07:44:12PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > > It'd be nice if someone from up top would deign to come and talk to us
> > > directly...
> >
> > Communica
On 01/11/18 07:18 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 4:48 PM Matthew Miller wrote:
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 07:44:12PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> It'd be nice if someone from up top would deign to come and talk to us
> directly...
Communications are pretty carefully contro
On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 4:48 PM Matthew Miller wrote:
>
> On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 07:44:12PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > It'd be nice if someone from up top would deign to come and talk to us
> > directly...
>
> Communications are pretty carefully controlled for regulatory reasons, and
> the fact
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 05:32:52PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> Red Hat has been a company I've admired since I got into Linux back in
> 2000. I genuinely worry that IBM will smother Red Hat and kill one of
> the largest producers of awesome FOSS with its bureaucratic
> proprietary-ness.
I wrote thi
> Yea - Does IBM have any plans on keeping, or discarding any of RH’s open
> source
> efforts…like this one? Can we as a community still expect the same sort of,
> and level of
> involvement post sale as we have enjoyed before hand from RH/IBM employees?
>
> -L0ft
Although I'm against this top
On 31/10/18 06:21, John Coughlan wrote:
> Yea - Does IBM have any plans on keeping, or discarding any of RH’s open
> source
> efforts…like this one? Can we as a community still expect the same sort of,
> and level of
> involvement post sale as we have enjoyed before hand from RH/IBM employees?
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 6:13 AM John Coughlan wrote:
>
> Yea - Does IBM have any plans on keeping, or discarding any of RH’s open
> source efforts…like this one? Can we as a community still expect the same
> sort of, and level of involvement post sale as we have enjoyed before hand
> from RH/IB
Yea - Does IBM have any plans on keeping, or discarding any of RH’s open source
efforts…like this one? Can we as a community still expect the same sort of, and
level of involvement post sale as we have enjoyed before hand from RH/IBM
employees?
-L0ft
> On Oct 30, 2018, at 12:12 PM, Matthew Mi
El dom., 28 de oct. de 2018 a la(s) 21:15, John Coughlan
(johncough...@comcast.net) escribió:
>
> IBM is a cancer. How long have they been working with Watson, and what
> exactly do they have to show for it?
>
> Also as many others have said their FOSS print is a joke at best.
>
> As a community I
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 07:44:12PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> It'd be nice if someone from up top would deign to come and talk to us
> directly...
Communications are pretty carefully controlled for regulatory reasons, and
the fact is even those at the top don't know everything yet. And speculation
This was pretty much inevitable. Out of companies with deep enough pockets -
IBM is a good outcome. In the end, it will be good for both companies. It
isn't helpful to have a negative attitude about it. “Change is the law of life
and those who look only to the past or present are certain to
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 9:45 AM Nicolas Mailhot
wrote:
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> Le 2018-10-29 10:18, Peter Robinson a écrit :
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> > From the press release, which is all I know about, it's not due to
> > complete until "latter half of 2019." which is around a year from now
> > and it has to go through all the regulator
Le 2018-10-29 10:18, Peter Robinson a écrit :
From the press release, which is all I know about, it's not due to
complete until "latter half of 2019." which is around a year from now
and it has to go through all the regulatory reviews.
That’s not how those things work. As soon as two corps dec
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 12:46 AM Simo Sorce wrote:
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> On Sun, 2018-10-28 at 19:44 -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > It's always a wait and see approach. I'm a bit disappointed that no
> > one from Red Hat has said anything yet. The only comfort is that
> > apparently most RHers I know are equally surp
I don’t know who runs or supports fusion.
In terms of IBM upholding the FOSS legacy that RH has been blazing in…As I said
before - IBM’s actions speak to just the opposite. They can say whatever they
want in press releases, but what they actually do is what I am worried about.
JC
L0ft1369
>
That’s a bit much, understand the concern, but the deal does state they’re
going to uphold the opposite.
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 11:15 PM John Coughlan
wrote:
> IBM is a cancer. How long have they been working with Watson, and what
> exactly do they have to show for it?
>
> Also as many others h
Who supports or backs rpmfusion? I think it's too early to do anything but
as I was thinking about who would be willing to pick up the project if we
were but loose.
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018, 8:15 PM John Coughlan
wrote:
> IBM is a cancer. How long have they been working with Watson, and what
> exact
IBM is a cancer. How long have they been working with Watson, and what exactly
do they have to show for it?
Also as many others have said their FOSS print is a joke at best.
As a community I feel like we are in some trouble here.
IBM shelled out A TON of money for RH, and the first thing the
Zach,
What good advice. Thank you. :)
Let's stick to what we know.
Geoff Marr
IRC: coremodule
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 7:59 PM Zach Villers wrote:
> On 10/28/18 7:56 PM, Simo Sorce wrote:
> >
> > We are all astonished honestly,
> > I took to fedora-devel only because I finished reading *all*
On 10/28/18 7:56 PM, Simo Sorce wrote:
>
> We are all astonished honestly,
> I took to fedora-devel only because I finished reading *all* the
> internal emails about it that I downloaded so far (it took me a few
> hours) and ... still can't digest the news.
>
>
> I am sure it will happen at some
I’m concerned about IBM’s sluggish organization. It is not “seems like” but
for real that IBM has a contrary leadership style comparing with Red Hat,
isn’t it?
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On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 5:44 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 7:30 PM Charles-Antoine Couret
> wrote:
>>
>> Le 28/10/2018 à 22:32, Neal Gompa a écrit :
>> > but the point is, IBM is not an open source company.
>>
>> Eclipse, Linux (top 5 companies in term of kernel contributions),
On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 23:39:52 +0100, you wrote:
>Le 28/10/2018 à 22:32, Neal Gompa a écrit :
>> but the point is, IBM is not an open source company.
>
>Eclipse,
Not exactly a ringing endorsement given Eclipse's poor reputation.
>Linux (top 5 companies in term of kernel contributions), MQTT
>(ne
On Sun, 2018-10-28 at 19:44 -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> It's always a wait and see approach. I'm a bit disappointed that no
> one from Red Hat has said anything yet. The only comfort is that
> apparently most RHers I know are equally surprised...
We are all astonished honestly,
I took to fedora-dev
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 7:30 PM Charles-Antoine Couret
wrote:
>
> Le 28/10/2018 à 22:32, Neal Gompa a écrit :
> > but the point is, IBM is not an open source company.
>
> Eclipse, Linux (top 5 companies in term of kernel contributions), MQTT
> (network protocol), OpenPower (hardware), etc.
>
> It
I think its important in this time not to be wary but not go full on tin
foil hat. This is a sensitive time,
and reacting in a crazed manor or speculating isnt going to do ANYONE good.
Much love all, keep level heads.
Cheers,
Zach
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 4:31 PM Charles-Antoine Couret <
rena...
Chris Murphy writes:
The reported deal is $34 billion, and Red Hat's closing market cap on
Friday was ~$20 billion, that's a big price premium. I'm not a lawyer
let alone a securities lawyer, but my guess is if Red Hat management
had refused the deal, I think they'd face shareholder lawsuits.
Le 28/10/2018 à 22:32, Neal Gompa a écrit :
but the point is, IBM is not an open source company.
Eclipse, Linux (top 5 companies in term of kernel contributions), MQTT
(network protocol), OpenPower (hardware), etc.
It is not perfect but it is a lot of projects and contributions to FOSS.
Re
On Sun, 28 Oct 2018, 22:22 Chris Murphy, wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 2:17 PM, Antonio Trande
> wrote:
> > "IBM to acquire Red Hat in deal valued at $34 billion"
> >
> >
> https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/28/ibm-is-reportedly-nearing-deal-to-acquire-red-hat.html
>
>
> Official press release.
>
>
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 5:22 PM Chris Murphy wrote:
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> On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 2:17 PM, Antonio Trande wrote:
> > "IBM to acquire Red Hat in deal valued at $34 billion"
> >
> > https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/28/ibm-is-reportedly-nearing-deal-to-acquire-red-hat.html
>
>
> Official press release.
>
On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 21:17:50 +0100
Antonio Trande wrote:
> "IBM to acquire Red Hat in deal valued at $34 billion"
>
> https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/28/ibm-is-reportedly-nearing-deal-to-acquire-red-hat.html
>
Business as usual for Fedora?
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On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 2:17 PM, Antonio Trande wrote:
> "IBM to acquire Red Hat in deal valued at $34 billion"
>
> https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/28/ibm-is-reportedly-nearing-deal-to-acquire-red-hat.html
Official press release.
https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-ibm-creating-leading-hybrid-cl
"IBM to acquire Red Hat in deal valued at $34 billion"
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/28/ibm-is-reportedly-nearing-deal-to-acquire-red-hat.html
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