Re: Flock proposals now open for community voting

2013-06-10 Thread Ric Wheeler
On 06/04/2013 10:22 AM, seth vidal wrote: On Tue, 4 Jun 2013 10:16:22 -0400 Przemek Klosowski wrote: On 06/04/2013 10:02 AM, Tom Callaway wrote: On 06/04/2013 09:55 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: What's even weirder is that some folks are explicitly mentioned (such as Jon Masters) in the desc

Re: Flock proposals now open for community voting

2013-06-04 Thread Kashyap Chamarthy
On 06/04/2013 08:37 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Tue, Jun 04, 2013 at 10:22:50AM -0400, seth vidal wrote: > >> I disagree - this lets people judge proposed talks/sessions on what is >> written. > > I don't go to presentations because of the quality of the abstract. I go > to presentations ba

Re: Flock proposals now open for community voting

2013-06-04 Thread Dan Mashal
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 7:02 AM, Tom Callaway wrote: > Only people who refer to themselves by name in their own abstracts (or > describe themselves in such a way that it is obvious who they are) ended > up like this. We honestly didn't think that was going to happen. > > This was an experiment. If

Re: Flock proposals now open for community voting

2013-06-04 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Tue, Jun 04, 2013 at 10:22:50AM -0400, seth vidal wrote: > I disagree - this lets people judge proposed talks/sessions on what is > written. I don't go to presentations because of the quality of the abstract. I go to presentations based on whether or not I believe the speaker is competent i

Re: Flock proposals now open for community voting

2013-06-04 Thread Tom Callaway
On 06/04/2013 09:55 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > What's even weirder is that some folks are explicitly mentioned (such as > Jon Masters) in the descriptions, so the playing field isn't actually > that levelled after all? Only people who refer to themselves by name in their own abstracts (or des

Re: Flock proposals now open for community voting

2013-06-04 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 06/04/2013 10:02 AM, Tom Callaway wrote: On 06/04/2013 09:55 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: What's even weirder is that some folks are explicitly mentioned (such as Jon Masters) in the descriptions, so the playing field isn't actually that levelled after all? Only people who refer to themsel

Re: Flock proposals now open for community voting

2013-06-04 Thread seth vidal
On Tue, 4 Jun 2013 10:16:22 -0400 Przemek Klosowski wrote: > On 06/04/2013 10:02 AM, Tom Callaway wrote: > > On 06/04/2013 09:55 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > >> What's even weirder is that some folks are explicitly mentioned > >> (such as Jon Masters) in the descriptions, so the playing field

Re: Flock proposals now open for community voting

2013-06-04 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 04.06.13 09:46, Tom Callaway (tcall...@redhat.com) wrote: > On 06/04/2013 04:28 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Mon, 03.06.13 12:36, Tom Callaway (tcall...@redhat.com) wrote: > > > >> These submissions are mostly anonymized (some people put their names > >> or enough details in the a

Re: Flock proposals now open for community voting

2013-06-04 Thread Tom Callaway
On 06/04/2013 04:28 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mon, 03.06.13 12:36, Tom Callaway (tcall...@redhat.com) wrote: > >> These submissions are mostly anonymized (some people put their names >> or enough details in the abstracts to make it obvious who the proposed >> speakers were). This is inten

Re: Flock proposals now open for community voting

2013-06-04 Thread 80
2013/6/4 Lennart Poettering > > This sounds seriously misguided. I mean, I usually prefer attending > talks where I know that the presenter is actually involved in the > respective project, rather than just any random guy/gal. > > I am all for levelling the playing field, but things like this sou

Re: Flock proposals now open for community voting

2013-06-04 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 03.06.13 12:36, Tom Callaway (tcall...@redhat.com) wrote: > These submissions are mostly anonymized (some people put their names > or enough details in the abstracts to make it obvious who the proposed > speakers were). This is intentional, as we are trying to eliminate an > area of potent

Re: Flock proposals now open for community voting

2013-06-03 Thread Kashyap Chamarthy
> > The latter :-) Thanks Bill, Rahul. Sorry for this noise. Note to self: *Read* the goddamn email completely (especially at 01:00 AM) before hitting the send! -- /kashyap -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Flock proposals now open for community voting

2013-06-03 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Kashyap Chamarthy wrote: > > Tom/Anyone: > > Is it purposeful to not have presenter's name next to each talk's Abstract > ? Or is it a > limitation of the talk proposal system ? Or am I just terribly blind ? > The latter :-) Rahul -- devel mailing list dev

Re: Flock proposals now open for community voting

2013-06-03 Thread Bill Nottingham
Kashyap Chamarthy (kcham...@redhat.com) said: > Tom/Anyone: > > Is it purposeful to not have presenter's name next to each talk's Abstract ? > Or is it a > limitation of the talk proposal system ? Or am I just terribly blind ? From the message you quoted: ... These submissions are mostly anon

Re: Flock proposals now open for community voting

2013-06-03 Thread Kashyap Chamarthy
On 06/03/2013 10:06 PM, Tom Callaway wrote: > Thanks to the Fedora Community for submitting 125 awesome talks, > hackfests, sprints and workshops for Flock, our new contributor conference! > > We've taken those submissions and put them in the Fedora Elections web > application, and now, it is time

Flock proposals now open for community voting

2013-06-03 Thread Tom Callaway
Thanks to the Fedora Community for submitting 125 awesome talks, hackfests, sprints and workshops for Flock, our new contributor conference! We've taken those submissions and put them in the Fedora Elections web application, and now, it is time for you to give us your feedback. These proposals hav