Fedora Notifications System recent issues and Fixes

2016-09-27 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Greetings. The Fedora Notifications System, available at: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/ Is a way for interested parties to be notified when events occur in Fedora. This system currently allows for IRC and/or Email notifications of events, as well as "digesting" a

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-29 Thread Manuel Escudero
2010/8/29 Mike McGrath > On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, Manuel Escudero wrote: > > > > > > > 2010/8/29 Gerard Braad > > > dead > > > > It would be more appropriate to have this discussion to take place > on > > openetherpad.org instead of Google Wave. As at least everyone can > > p

Re: Proprietary search engines (was: Fedora Notifications System.)

2010-08-29 Thread Manuel Escudero
2010/8/29 Matt McCutchen > On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 14:13 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > > On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, Manuel Escudero wrote: > > > 3) We're already using a GOOGLE SEARCH BOX!! in > http://start.fedoraproject.org/ ¿Do you have the code for this one? > > > NO. And Fedora Project is using it. I

Proprietary search engines (was: Fedora Notifications System.)

2010-08-29 Thread Matt McCutchen
On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 14:13 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, Manuel Escudero wrote: > > 3) We're already using a GOOGLE SEARCH BOX!! in > > http://start.fedoraproject.org/ ¿Do you have the code for this one? > > NO. And Fedora Project is using it. I'm sharing a "Fedora Solution" a

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-29 Thread Mike McGrath
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, Manuel Escudero wrote: > > > 2010/8/29 Gerard Braad > > dead > > It would be more appropriate to have this discussion to take place on > openetherpad.org instead of Google Wave. As at least everyone can > participate instead of these few with wave acco

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-29 Thread Manuel Escudero
2010/8/29 Gerard Braad > > dead > > It would be more appropriate to have this discussion to take place on > openetherpad.org instead of Google Wave. As at least everyone can > participate instead of these few with wave account or those who paid > for it ;-) > > Gerard > > -- > Gerard Braad — 吉拉德

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-29 Thread Gerard Braad
> dead It would be more appropriate to have this discussion to take place on openetherpad.org instead of Google Wave. As at least everyone can participate instead of these few with wave account or those who paid for it ;-) Gerard -- Gerard Braad — 吉拉德 Project-lead Fedora-MIPS http://fedor

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-28 Thread Kevin Kofler
Manuel Escudero wrote: > Shut up kevin... Please watch your language. The points I'm making are very important, telling me to be quiet (in a not very nice way) is not going to solve the fundamental problem. > the code is opensource and you can have it if you want, you can modify > it... The fe

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-28 Thread Manuel Escudero
2010/8/28 Kevin Kofler > Manuel Escudero wrote: > > We have to continue! I propouse using "Google's stuff" in order to have a > > "Standard" for all desktops and maybe linux distros... > > A "standard" relying on proprietary Google (and other) web services? No > thanks! > > > I called it the "Fed

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-28 Thread Kevin Kofler
Manuel Escudero wrote: > We have to continue! I propouse using "Google's stuff" in order to have a > "Standard" for all desktops and maybe linux distros... A "standard" relying on proprietary Google (and other) web services? No thanks! > I called it the "Fedora's Engine" and is built over Google

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-27 Thread Mahmoud Abdul Jawad
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 3:07 AM, Ben Boeckel wrote: > > Don't they share a D-Bus API these days? > they do. On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > Why? Just use system dbus notifications and you're done. But as I suggested - > it > should be used only for critical notifi

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-27 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Thursday, August 26, 2010 08:17:14 pm Mahmoud Abdul Jawad wrote: > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 06:30 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > > > I have to agree with Kevin here (!). Employing a notification system in > > parallel to the ones already

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-26 Thread Ben Boeckel
In gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.devel Mahmoud Abdul Jawad wrote: > in fact, your point means there will be two versions, KDE version & > other desktops version, Don't they share a D-Bus API these days? --Ben -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mail

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-26 Thread Manuel Escudero
2010/8/26 Mahmoud Abdul Jawad > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Matthias Clasen > wrote: > > On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 06:30 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > > > I have to agree with Kevin here (!). Employing a notification system in > > parallel to the ones already provides by the desktop environmen

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-26 Thread Mahmoud Abdul Jawad
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 06:30 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > I have to agree with Kevin here (!). Employing a notification system in > parallel to the ones already provides by the desktop environment is a > total nonstarter. > in fact, your

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-26 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 06:30 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Mahmoud Abdul Jawad wrote: > > 3. keep a history of the notifications > > 4. max. number of notifications at the time > > 5. click able notifications > > 6. stackable notifications > > I think that, at least on KDE, you really want to leave

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-25 Thread Kevin Kofler
Mahmoud Abdul Jawad wrote: > 3. keep a history of the notifications > 4. max. number of notifications at the time > 5. click able notifications > 6. stackable notifications I think that, at least on KDE, you really want to leave that stuff to the KNotify system, it already does all this stuff wel

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-25 Thread Kevin Kofler
Michal Hlavinka wrote: > disabling something won't fix it, also I don't think this is that bad that > it requires extra patch to turn it off by default and diverge from > upstream It shouldn't require a patch, just a config setting. That's what kde- settings is for. (But I also think the default

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-25 Thread Kevin Kofler
Manuel Escudero wrote: > I dont' know if it's possible to tweak the code of these apps, Or we can > use Google Gadgets as a Base, Please don't rely on Google stuff. The native RSS plasmoid is just fine. There's also Akregator, which is a regular KDE app to browse RSS feeds. We don't really need

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-25 Thread Manuel Escudero
2010/8/25 Mika Kuusela > On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 20:05 -0500, Manuel Escudero wrote: > > > Now, this is the Fedora search engine: > > > > > > http://ubuntuone.com/p/DuP/ > > > > > > I was wondering if it's possible to integrate a search box into hermes > > that uses that engine as a base... > > The

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-25 Thread Mika Kuusela
On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 20:05 -0500, Manuel Escudero wrote: > Now, this is the Fedora search engine: > > > http://ubuntuone.com/p/DuP/ > > > I was wondering if it's possible to integrate a search box into hermes > that uses that engine as a base... The start.fedoraproject.org search engine is n

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-25 Thread Manuel Escudero
2010/8/24 Manuel Escudero > > > 2010/8/24 Kevin Kofler > > Michal Hlavinka wrote: >> > disagree, have you seen your notifications after leaving your computer >> > alone for several hours with IM client connected (with whatever status)? >> > >> > You'll get tons of "User XY has changed status to:

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-25 Thread Mahmoud Abdul Jawad
after spending two days reading the two fedora mailing lists (fedora users & fedora devel), i got a list of ideas that need to be implemented in order to keep the things up: 1. the abililty to turn off the system 2. smart notifications (maybe multilanguage, geolocation-based, & time-aware notes) 3.

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-25 Thread Michal Hlavinka
On Wednesday, August 25, 2010 11:13:29 Kevin Kofler wrote: > Michal Hlavinka wrote: > >> Well, IMHO Kopete shouldn't spam notifications for this type of non- > >> exceptional event at all. Is this enabled by default? If so, maybe we > >> should disable it by default in kde-settings? > > > > afaik

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-25 Thread Kevin Kofler
Michal Hlavinka wrote: >> Well, IMHO Kopete shouldn't spam notifications for this type of non- >> exceptional event at all. Is this enabled by default? If so, maybe we >> should disable it by default in kde-settings? > > afaik it's enabled by default and not only for kopete. Kopete as many > othe

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-25 Thread Michal Hlavinka
On Tuesday, August 24, 2010 21:11:56 Kevin Kofler wrote: > Michal Hlavinka wrote: > > disagree, have you seen your notifications after leaving your computer > > alone for several hours with IM client connected (with whatever status)? > > > > You'll get tons of "User XY has changed status to: blah

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-25 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Tuesday, August 24, 2010 06:26:52 pm Manuel Escudero wrote: > 2010/8/24 Garrett Holmstrom > > > Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > > Reading this - I'm not sure all Fedora notifications should go through > > > > system > > > > > notification system. Why? I understand it for urgent/priority > > > >

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-24 Thread Manuel Escudero
2010/8/24 Kevin Kofler > Michal Hlavinka wrote: > > disagree, have you seen your notifications after leaving your computer > > alone for several hours with IM client connected (with whatever status)? > > > > You'll get tons of "User XY has changed status to: blah blah" > > Well, IMHO Kopete shoul

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
Michal Hlavinka wrote: > disagree, have you seen your notifications after leaving your computer > alone for several hours with IM client connected (with whatever status)? > > You'll get tons of "User XY has changed status to: blah blah" Well, IMHO Kopete shouldn't spam notifications for this type

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-24 Thread Mahmoud Abdul Jawad
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 11:19 PM, Jon Masters wrote: > On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 11:54 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: > > > Whatever we do please make it an option NOT to have any window splat > > on the screen anywhere - let it stay in the system tray and not > > interfere with my work. > > It get

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-24 Thread Manuel Escudero
2010/8/24 Garrett Holmstrom > Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > Reading this - I'm not sure all Fedora notifications should go through > system > > notification system. Why? I understand it for urgent/priority > notification like > > "Close your desktop, nuclear war out there" (or just a security update

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-24 Thread Garrett Holmstrom
Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > Reading this - I'm not sure all Fedora notifications should go through system > notification system. Why? I understand it for urgent/priority notification > like > "Close your desktop, nuclear war out there" (or just a security update > combined > with some steps how t

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-24 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Friday, August 20, 2010 10:46:43 pm Mahmoud Abdul Jawad wrote: > Hi all,, Hi! > before two weeks, a discussion started in ambassadors mailing-list about a > work around to deliver the important notifications to the fedora desktop > (whatever the desktop is). > after some discussion, we started

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/24/2010 03:55 AM, Bastien Nocera wrote: > Right. So the problem is to not actually break PackageKit's notification > system, not to add blue tack and scotch tape on top of it. The proposed solution is not just for package update issues but for general announcements that are of importance to

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-23 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 13:14 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 11:03 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > Why isn't this idea merged into PackageKit and the rest of the update > > infrastructure, which should take care of important notifications to > > users? > > > > Or were you

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-23 Thread J. Randall Owens
On 08/23/2010 01:54 PM, Manuel Escudero wrote: > > b) Let's test it first in Fedora and see how it goes, my idea was having > a notification system that let the user Choose between what kind of news > they wanna recieve in some part of the instalation process (trough > anaconda) so > if they want

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-23 Thread Manuel Escudero
2010/8/23 Adam Williamson > On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 11:03 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > Why isn't this idea merged into PackageKit and the rest of the update > > infrastructure, which should take care of important notifications to > > users? > > > > Or were you expecting other types of notific

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-23 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 11:03 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > Why isn't this idea merged into PackageKit and the rest of the update > infrastructure, which should take care of important notifications to > users? > > Or were you expecting other types of notifications? The motivation for this system

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-23 Thread Jon Masters
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 11:54 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: > Whatever we do please make it an option NOT to have any window splat > on the screen anywhere - let it stay in the system tray and not > interfere with my work. It gets worse. I frequently come back to a desktop on which my girlfrien

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-23 Thread Genes MailLists
On 08/23/2010 02:19 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: A lowly user view here about popups .. Whatever we do please make it an option NOT to have any window splat on the screen anywhere - let it stay in the system tray and not interfere with my work. All the popup notifications are annoying and d

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-23 Thread David Malcolm
On Sat, 2010-08-21 at 00:46 +0400, Mahmoud Abdul Jawad wrote: > Hi all,, > > before two weeks, a discussion started in ambassadors mailing-list > about a work around to deliver the important notifications to the > fedora desktop (whatever the desktop is). > after some discussion, we started with s

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-23 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Sat, 2010-08-21 at 00:46 +0400, Mahmoud Abdul Jawad wrote: > Hi all,, > > before two weeks, a discussion started in ambassadors mailing-list > about a work around to deliver the important notifications to the > fedora desktop (whatever the desktop is). > after some discussion, we started with s

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-23 Thread Michal Hlavinka
On Monday, August 23, 2010 08:19:13 Kevin Kofler wrote: > Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > I'm not sure a notification applet by itself is going to be the best > > answer here... as people may be busy or not see the notice and a few > > seconds later it goes away and they miss it. > > That's why the notific

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-22 Thread Kevin Kofler
Kevin Fenzi wrote: > I'm not sure a notification applet by itself is going to be the best > answer here... as people may be busy or not see the notice and a few > seconds later it goes away and they miss it. That's why the notification should not time out unless/until the user clicks it away! In

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-22 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 00:46:43 +0400 Mahmoud Abdul Jawad wrote: > Hi all,, > > before two weeks, a discussion started in ambassadors mailing-list > about a work around to deliver the important notifications to the > fedora desktop (whatever the desktop is). > after some discussion, we started with

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-22 Thread Manuel Escudero
2010/8/22 Till Maas > On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 10:19:53PM +0400, Mahmoud Abdul Jawad wrote: > > > without help i'll not be able to continue. > > please test the application on non-KDE desktops, think for improvements & > > give feedbacks. > > Maybe you get more feedback if you make it a F15 featur

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-22 Thread Brandon Lozza
> > > > 1) I was the one who put a google wave link in the wiki, I tought it might > be a good way of comunication because anyone with a Gmail account can acess > to a wave and use it. If someone do not have a Gmail account he/she simply > can use the IRC, can contact anyone that's helping via the

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-22 Thread Till Maas
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 10:19:53PM +0400, Mahmoud Abdul Jawad wrote: > without help i'll not be able to continue. > please test the application on non-KDE desktops, think for improvements & > give feedbacks. Maybe you get more feedback if you make it a F15 feature: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-22 Thread Mahmoud Abdul Jawad
who have a googlewave account it would be nice to talk with > him (btw, check the wiki page history to know who added that link). > i was talking about a Fedora Notifications System, not a googlewave > discussion. > & after a half a day, i didn't get any feedbacks. > > a

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-21 Thread Mahmoud Abdul Jawad
o have a googlewave account it would be nice to talk with him (btw, check the wiki page history to know who added that link). i was talking about a Fedora Notifications System, not a googlewave discussion. & after a half a day, i didn't get any feedbacks. again, if you have any idea to

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-20 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Till Maas wrote: > Nevertheless, imho it should not be used to develop infrastructure for Fedora, > because people involved in Fedora might not want to use it, because it is not > FOSS. The less-than-clear-future roadmap for Wave as a service brings home exactly t

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-20 Thread Till Maas
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 03:26:24PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > On 8/20/10 3:20 PM, Brandon Lozza wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> You are requesting people participate in discussions via Google Wave. This > >> is problematic for two reasons: > >> > >> a) Google Wave is dead > >> b) Noone wants to us

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-20 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/20/10 3:20 PM, Brandon Lozza wrote: >> >> >> >> You are requesting people participate in discussions via Google Wave. This >> is problematic for two reasons: >> >> a) Google Wave is dead >> b) Noone wants to use Google Wave. See a) >> >> Rahul

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-20 Thread Brandon Lozza
> > > > You are requesting people participate in discussions via Google Wave. This > is problematic for two reasons: > > a) Google Wave is dead > b) Noone wants to use Google Wave. See a) > > Rahul > a) you're a troll b) you're a troll > > -- > devel mailing list > devel@lists.fedoraproje

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/21/2010 02:16 AM, Mahmoud Abdul Jawad wrote: Hi all,, before two weeks, a discussion started in ambassadors mailing-list about a work around to deliver the important notifications to the fedora desktop (whatever the desktop is). after some discussion, we started with some guide lines & put

Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-20 Thread Mahmoud Abdul Jawad
Hi all,, before two weeks, a discussion started in ambassadors mailing-list about a work around to deliver the important notifications to the fedora desktop (whatever the desktop is). after some discussion, we started with some guide lines & putted them on the wiki: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/