Re: F36 Change: Retired Packages (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-11-10 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 07. 10. 21 v 17:45 Ben Cotton napsal(a): https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RetiredPackages == Summary == Easy the task of removing packages, which were retired and no longer receives updates. Updates: The change has been approved by FESCO. The subpackage `remove-retired-packages` is

Re: F36 Change: Retired Packages (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-10-12 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 09:10:44AM +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > Dne 11. 10. 21 v 20:14 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek napsal(a): > >>Nothing is broken **now**. But it very often broke N+1 or N+2 > >>upgrade. I remember some package broken N+5 upgrade. And then you > >>(or some co-maintainer) hesitat

Re: F36 Change: Retired Packages (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-10-12 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 11. 10. 21 v 20:14 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek napsal(a): Nothing is broken **now**. But it very often broke N+1 or N+2 upgrade. I remember some package broken N+5 upgrade. And then you (or some co-maintainer) hesitated to add it to fedora-obsolete-packages because "it is too old".:) That's

Re: F36 Change: Retired Packages (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-10-11 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 09:55:05PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 11. 10. 21 21:41, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > >On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 08:17:36PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > >>On 11. 10. 21 20:14, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > >>>On Fri, Oct 08, 2021 at 08:21:51AM +0200, Mirosla

Re: F36 Change: Retired Packages (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-10-11 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 11. 10. 21 21:41, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 08:17:36PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: On 11. 10. 21 20:14, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Fri, Oct 08, 2021 at 08:21:51AM +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote: Dne 07. 10. 21 v 18:23 Miro Hrončok napsal(a): When are

Re: F36 Change: Retired Packages (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-10-11 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 08:17:36PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 11. 10. 21 20:14, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > >On Fri, Oct 08, 2021 at 08:21:51AM +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > >>Dne 07. 10. 21 v 18:23 Miro Hrončok napsal(a): > >>>When are you supposed to run remove-retired-packages? >

Re: F36 Change: Retired Packages (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-10-11 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 11. 10. 21 20:14, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Fri, Oct 08, 2021 at 08:21:51AM +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote: Dne 07. 10. 21 v 18:23 Miro Hrončok napsal(a): When are you supposed to run remove-retired-packages? After the upgrade. If you run remove-retired-packages after the upgrade

Re: F36 Change: Retired Packages (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-10-11 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Oct 08, 2021 at 08:21:51AM +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > Dne 07. 10. 21 v 18:23 Miro Hrončok napsal(a): > >When are you supposed to run remove-retired-packages? > After the upgrade. > > > >If you run remove-retired-packages after the upgrade, you already > >managed to upgrade and nothing i

Re: F36 Change: Retired Packages (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-10-10 Thread Dan Čermák
Vitaly Zaitsev via devel writes: > On 07/10/2021 17:45, Ben Cotton wrote: >> Subpackage `remove-retired-packages` has been created (subpackage of >> `fedora-upgrade`). > > I suggest integrating this functionality into dnf as a plugin. > > Example: > sudo dnf clean-retired --releasever=32 This so

Re: F36 Change: Retired Packages (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-10-07 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 07. 10. 21 v 18:23 Miro Hrončok napsal(a): When are you supposed to run remove-retired-packages? After the upgrade. If you run remove-retired-packages after the upgrade, you already managed to upgrade and nothing is broken, no? Nothing is broken **now**. But it very often broke N+1 or

Re: F36 Change: Retired Packages (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-10-07 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Oct 07, 2021 at 18:23:00 +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: On 07. 10. 21 17:45, Ben Cotton wrote: * We suggest users to remove packages that are no longer maintained and may contain security vulnerabilities. This makes perfect sense. * We make sure that archaic packages do not break upgra

Re: F36 Change: Retired Packages (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-10-07 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 07. 10. 21 17:45, Ben Cotton wrote: * We suggest users to remove packages that are no longer maintained and may contain security vulnerabilities. This makes perfect sense. * We make sure that archaic packages do not break upgrade between two versions of Fedora. When are you supposed to r

Re: F36 Change: Retired Packages (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-10-07 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 07/10/2021 17:45, Ben Cotton wrote: Subpackage `remove-retired-packages` has been created (subpackage of `fedora-upgrade`). I suggest integrating this functionality into dnf as a plugin. Example: sudo dnf clean-retired --releasever=32 -- Sincerely, Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.org)

F36 Change: Retired Packages (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-10-07 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RetiredPackages == Summary == Easy the task of removing packages, which were retired and no longer receives updates. == Owner == * Name: [[User:msuchy| Miroslav Suchý]] * Email: msu...@redhat.com == Detailed Description == This follows the [[Changes/Fedor