Re: langpacks (Re: F30 System-Wide Change proposal: Replace Comps Language Group With Langpacks)

2019-01-21 Thread Jens-Ulrik Petersen
On Mon, 14 Jan 2019, 16:01 Nicolas Mailhot Le 2019-01-11 19:33, Tomasz Kłoczko a écrit : > > On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 13:37, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > > > >>> So in 107 current Fedora specs are used %lang() macros. > >>> Probably some of them can be removed by proper use %find_lang. > >> > >> The prob

Re: F30 System-Wide Change proposal: Replace Comps Language Group With Langpacks

2019-01-21 Thread Parag Nemade
On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 1:29 PM Owen Taylor wrote: > If I understand the proposal, I'm slightly concerned that the proposed > use of Supplements: means that there will be no longer any single > place where we declare "this is our recommended font for LangX, this > is our recommended input method

Re: F30 System-Wide Change proposal: Replace Comps Language Group With Langpacks

2019-01-20 Thread Owen Taylor
If I understand the proposal, I'm slightly concerned that the proposed use of Supplements: means that there will be no longer any single place where we declare "this is our recommended font for LangX, this is our recommended input method for LangX" - the history of this will be collectively over al

Re: F30 System-Wide Change proposal: Replace Comps Language Group With Langpacks

2019-01-17 Thread Parag Nemade
On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 12:49 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek < zbys...@in.waw.pl> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 09, 2019 at 02:56:59PM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > > Congratulations to the last System-Wide Change proposal of F30! > > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Replace_Comps_Language_Group_W

Re: F30 System-Wide Change proposal: Replace Comps Language Group With Langpacks

2019-01-17 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jan 09, 2019 at 02:56:59PM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > Congratulations to the last System-Wide Change proposal of F30! > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Replace_Comps_Language_Group_With_Langpacks > > == Summary == > Language support groups in Comps file will get replaced by langp

Re: langpacks (Re: F30 System-Wide Change proposal: Replace Comps Language Group With Langpacks)

2019-01-14 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le 2019-01-11 19:33, Tomasz Kłoczko a écrit : On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 13:37, Jakub Jelinek wrote: So in 107 current Fedora specs are used %lang() macros. Probably some of them can be removed by proper use %find_lang. The problem with _install_langs is that there is no easy way to change it af

Re: langpacks (Re: F30 System-Wide Change proposal: Replace Comps Language Group With Langpacks)

2019-01-11 Thread Tomasz Kłoczko
On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 13:37, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > > So in 107 current Fedora specs are used %lang() macros. > > Probably some of them can be removed by proper use %find_lang. > > The problem with _install_langs is that there is no easy way to change it > after installation, say you find out yo

Re: langpacks (Re: F30 System-Wide Change proposal: Replace Comps Language Group With Langpacks)

2019-01-11 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 01:11:00PM +0100, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: > On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 05:27, Jens-Ulrik Petersen > wrote: > [..] > > > %find_lang used --with-man option takes care of collecting all language > >> specific man pages as well, and more than 100 Fedora package are using this > >> o

Re: langpacks (Re: F30 System-Wide Change proposal: Replace Comps Language Group With Langpacks)

2019-01-11 Thread Tomasz Kłoczko
On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 05:27, Jens-Ulrik Petersen wrote: [..] > %find_lang used --with-man option takes care of collecting all language >> specific man pages as well, and more than 100 Fedora package are using this >> option .. but again nothing during fresh Fedora install is using those tags. >>

Re: langpacks (Re: F30 System-Wide Change proposal: Replace Comps Language Group With Langpacks)

2019-01-11 Thread Tomasz Kłoczko
On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 05:17, Jens-Ulrik Petersen wrote: > On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 2:41 AM Tomasz Kłoczko > wrote: > >> On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 21:07, Ben Cotton wrote: >> >>> >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Replace_Comps_Language_Group_With_Langpacks >>> Language support groups in Com

Re: langpacks (Re: F30 System-Wide Change proposal: Replace Comps Language Group With Langpacks)

2019-01-10 Thread Jens-Ulrik Petersen
On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 2:41 AM Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: > Funny (and scary) is that anaconda provides function to choose exact > languages support when system is installed but nothing is added to > /etc/rpm/macros to really make this choice real. > %find_lang macro takes care of tagging some files

Re: langpacks (Re: F30 System-Wide Change proposal: Replace Comps Language Group With Langpacks)

2019-01-10 Thread Jens-Ulrik Petersen
On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 2:41 AM Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: > On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 21:07, Ben Cotton wrote: > >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Replace_Comps_Language_Group_With_Langpacks >> Language support groups in Comps file will get replaced by langpacks >> package. With this Change w

Re: F30 System-Wide Change proposal: Replace Comps Language Group With Langpacks

2019-01-10 Thread Jens-Ulrik Petersen
On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 2:38 AM wrote: > Will gnome-control-center be able to install missing language packs and > input sources? > What about gnome-initial-setup? > Good questions but that is outside the scope of this Change. :-) Eventually we would like that to be the case yes - but currently

Re: F30 System-Wide Change proposal: Replace Comps Language Group With Langpacks

2019-01-10 Thread mcatanzaro
On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 11:36 AM, mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: In the future, we'd like to switch to running gnome-initial-setup prior to anaconda for language and keyboard layout selection, then anaconda, then gnome-initial-setup again on firstboot. Anaconda would therefore not be used for lang

langpacks (Re: F30 System-Wide Change proposal: Replace Comps Language Group With Langpacks)

2019-01-10 Thread Tomasz Kłoczko
On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 21:07, Ben Cotton wrote: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Replace_Comps_Language_Group_With_Langpacks > > == Summary == > Language support groups in Comps file will get replaced by langpacks > package. With this Change we want meta-packages like langpacks-ja to > also

Re: F30 System-Wide Change proposal: Replace Comps Language Group With Langpacks

2019-01-10 Thread mcatanzaro
Will gnome-control-center be able to install missing language packs and input sources? What about gnome-initial-setup? In the future, we'd like to switch to running gnome-initial-setup prior to anaconda for language and keyboard layout selection, then anaconda, then gnome-initial-setup agai

Re: F30 System-Wide Change proposal: Replace Comps Language Group With Langpacks

2019-01-10 Thread Parag Nemade
On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 5:37 PM David Tardon wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, 2019-01-09 at 14:56 -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > > E.g. if you net-install Fedora in Japanese language then installation > > of any base package like libreoffice-core or man-pages are installing > > automatically libreoffice-lang

Re: F30 System-Wide Change proposal: Replace Comps Language Group With Langpacks

2019-01-10 Thread Parag Nemade
On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 12:55 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek < zbys...@in.waw.pl> wrote: > On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 12:31:38PM +0530, Parag Nemade wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 4:23 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek < > > zbys...@in.waw.pl> wrote: > > > Do you plan to remove the comps groups? And

Re: F30 System-Wide Change proposal: Replace Comps Language Group With Langpacks

2019-01-10 Thread David Tardon
Hi, On Wed, 2019-01-09 at 14:56 -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > E.g. if you net-install Fedora in Japanese language then installation > of any base package like libreoffice-core or man-pages are installing > automatically libreoffice-langpack-ja or man-pages-ja but langpacks- > ja > is not installing a

Re: F30 System-Wide Change proposal: Replace Comps Language Group With Langpacks

2019-01-09 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 12:31:38PM +0530, Parag Nemade wrote: > On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 4:23 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek < > zbys...@in.waw.pl> wrote: > > Do you plan to remove the comps groups? And if yes, in F30 or later? > > Yes, Plan is to remove language support group entries from comps fil

Re: F30 System-Wide Change proposal: Replace Comps Language Group With Langpacks

2019-01-09 Thread Parag Nemade
On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 4:23 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek < zbys...@in.waw.pl> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 09, 2019 at 02:56:59PM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > > Congratulations to the last System-Wide Change proposal of F30! > > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Replace_Comps_Language_Group_Wi

Re: F30 System-Wide Change proposal: Replace Comps Language Group With Langpacks

2019-01-09 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jan 09, 2019 at 02:56:59PM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > Congratulations to the last System-Wide Change proposal of F30! > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Replace_Comps_Language_Group_With_Langpacks > > == Summary == > Language support groups in Comps file will get replaced by langp

F30 System-Wide Change proposal: Replace Comps Language Group With Langpacks

2019-01-09 Thread Ben Cotton
Congratulations to the last System-Wide Change proposal of F30! https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Replace_Comps_Language_Group_With_Langpacks == Summary == Language support groups in Comps file will get replaced by langpacks package. With this Change we want meta-packages like langpacks-ja t