Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

The team was able to get koji 1.17 released today. :) So, while the YUM deprecation got moved out to F31, you may want to pull 1.17 into F30. Cheers -- Dennis On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 3:18 PM Dennis Gregorovic wrote: > > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 4:25 AM Michal Domonkos > wrote: > >> On Fri, Mar

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 4:25 AM Michal Domonkos wrote: > On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 2:24 AM Dennis Gregorovic > wrote: > > > > I have an update on the koji end. The 1.17 release will not only drop > the yum dependency, it will also have full python 3 support (except for > image building that uses oz

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 2:24 AM Dennis Gregorovic wrote: > > I have an update on the koji end. The 1.17 release will not only drop the > yum dependency, it will also have full python 3 support (except for image > building that uses oz / imagefactory). Unfortunately, there is only medium > conf

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

> > I have an update on the koji end. The 1.17 release will not only drop the > > yum dependency, it will also have full python 3 support (except for image > > building that uses oz / imagefactory). Unfortunately, there is only medium > > confidence that the 1.17 release will be ready by the F

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 1:23 AM Dennis Gregorovic wrote: > > I have an update on the koji end. The 1.17 release will not only drop the > yum dependency, it will also have full python 3 support (except for image > building that uses oz / imagefactory). Unfortunately, there is only medium > conf

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 8:23 PM Dennis Gregorovic wrote: > > I have an update on the koji end. The 1.17 release will not only drop the > yum dependency, it will also have full python 3 support (except for image > building that uses oz / imagefactory). Unfortunately, there is only medium > con

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

I have an update on the koji end. The 1.17 release will not only drop the yum dependency, it will also have full python 3 support (except for image building that uses oz / imagefactory). Unfortunately, there is only medium confidence that the 1.17 release will be ready by the F30 devel freeze on

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

On Tue, 2019-02-26 at 06:22 +, Sérgio Basto wrote: > On Fri, 2019-02-01 at 11:23 -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > > RepoView just needs a patch to switch from rpmUtils and yum.comps > > to > > rpm and libcomps Python bindings, which I think I already wrote and > > put somewhere. I'll have to dig it o

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

On Fri, 2019-02-01 at 11:23 -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > RepoView just needs a patch to switch from rpmUtils and yum.comps to > rpm and libcomps Python bindings, which I think I already wrote and > put somewhere. I'll have to dig it out. I need a tool to read repos and compare it , meanwhile I found

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 9:07 AM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On 2/5/19 1:37 PM, Randy Barlow wrote: > > On Mon, 2019-02-04 at 09:56 -0600, Mátyás Selmeci wrote: > >> What's the replacement? > > > > Bodhi switched from mash to pungi, and I think Bodhi might have been > > the last thing using mash. > > Th

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

On 2/5/19 1:37 PM, Randy Barlow wrote: > On Mon, 2019-02-04 at 09:56 -0600, Mátyás Selmeci wrote: >> What's the replacement? > > Bodhi switched from mash to pungi, and I think Bodhi might have been > the last thing using mash. The last thing _we_ use mash for. ;) There may be other users out the

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 9:34 PM Mátyás Selmeci wrote: > > On 2/1/19 10:23 AM, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 10:23 AM Sérgio Basto wrote: > >> > >> koji-builder, mash and repoview are ready to work without yum ? > >> > > > > There's a pending PR for fixing koji-builder: > > https://p

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

On Mon, 2019-02-04 at 09:56 -0600, Mátyás Selmeci wrote: > What's the replacement? Bodhi switched from mash to pungi, and I think Bodhi might have been the last thing using mash. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ de

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 1:26 PM Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 at 12:14, Mátyás Selmeci wrote: > > > > On 1/31/19 1:05 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > On 1/30/19 1:39 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > >> Question: how plausibly can we sort of "test retire" yum? i.e. just > > >>

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

On 2/4/19 11:27 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 at 12:14, Mátyás Selmeci wrote: >> >> On 1/31/19 1:05 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >>> On 1/30/19 1:39 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: >>> Question: how plausibly can we sort of "test retire" yum? i.e. just somehow run a single co

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 07:08:14PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 31. 01. 19 16:32, Michal Domonkos wrote: > >On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 6:46 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > >>Based on the entire discussion so far, here's my proposal: > >> > >> - we change this to a system wide change > >> - we move it

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 at 12:14, Mátyás Selmeci wrote: > > On 1/31/19 1:05 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On 1/30/19 1:39 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > >> Question: how plausibly can we sort of "test retire" yum? i.e. just > >> somehow run a single compose process without it included, and see what > >>

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

On 1/31/19 1:05 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On 1/30/19 1:39 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > >> Question: how plausibly can we sort of "test retire" yum? i.e. just >> somehow run a single compose process without it included, and see what >> breaks? > > Well, we could block yum in koji and remove it from

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

On 2/1/19 10:23 AM, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 10:23 AM Sérgio Basto wrote: >> >> koji-builder, mash and repoview are ready to work without yum ? >> > > There's a pending PR for fixing koji-builder: > https://pagure.io/koji/pull-request/1117 > > Mash is dead and not used in infra

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

I chatted with the Koji team and they are planning on having the yum dependency removed in the upcoming 1.17 release and getting that release finished before F30 code freeze. On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 3:35 PM Michal Domonkos wrote: > On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 6:29 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > https://fe

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 6:29 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Retire_YUM_3 > > == Summary == > Remove yum (v3) and all related packages from Fedora. Just a heads-up that I have updated the proposal so that it does *not*[2] include python2-urlgrabber, given how much it

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 10:23 AM Sérgio Basto wrote: > > koji-builder, mash and repoview are ready to work without yum ? > There's a pending PR for fixing koji-builder: https://pagure.io/koji/pull-request/1117 Mash is dead and not used in infra anymore, so it doesn't matter. RepoView just needs

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

On 1/30/19 1:39 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > Question: how plausibly can we sort of "test retire" yum? i.e. just > somehow run a single compose process without it included, and see what > breaks? Well, we could block yum in koji and remove it from all builders and see what happens, but I think it

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

On 31. 01. 19 16:32, Michal Domonkos wrote: On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 6:46 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: Based on the entire discussion so far, here's my proposal: - we change this to a system wide change - we move it to Fedora 31 - we retire the packages from rawhide as soon as f30 is branche

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 6:46 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > Based on the entire discussion so far, here's my proposal: > > - we change this to a system wide change > - we move it to Fedora 31 > - we retire the packages from rawhide as soon as f30 is branched regardless > of > the dependent packag

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 at 05:46, Panu Matilainen wrote: > On 1/30/19 2:52 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > > > > So basically: treat all changes as system-wide by default with a single > proposal deadline, but if the review process discovers that a change > truly is a self-contained one then it

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

On 1/30/19 2:52 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 at 07:11, Matthew Miller > wrote: On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 11:49:55AM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > 1) Move System-Wide and Self-Contained proposal deadlines to be the > > same da

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

On Wed, 2019-01-30 at 12:36 -0800, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On 1/30/19 9:45 AM, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 28. 01. 19 18:27, Ben Cotton wrote: > > > (Note this change was previously submitted for Fedora 29: > > > https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2064) > > > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Re

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

On 1/30/19 9:45 AM, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 28. 01. 19 18:27, Ben Cotton wrote: >> (Note this change was previously submitted for Fedora 29: >> https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2064) >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Retire_YUM_3 > > Based on the entire discussion so far, here's my propos

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

On 28. 01. 19 18:27, Ben Cotton wrote: (Note this change was previously submitted for Fedora 29: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2064) https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Retire_YUM_3 Based on the entire discussion so far, here's my proposal: - we change this to a system wide change - we m

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

On Wed, Jan 30, 2019, 13:56 Peter Robinson On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 9:41 AM Florian Weimer wrote: > > > > * Miro Hrončok: > > > > > On 29. 01. 19 19:04, John Harris wrote: > > >> On Monday, January 28, 2019 12:27:19 PM EST Ben Cotton wrote: > > >>> Remove packages from the distribution: > > >>> *

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

Dne 30. 01. 19 v 13:10 Matthew Miller napsal(a): > On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 11:49:55AM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: >>> 1) Move System-Wide and Self-Contained proposal deadlines to be the >>> same date and allow FESCO/etc determine if the proposal needs to be >>> moved to SW or SC then? >> This split

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 9:41 AM Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Miro Hrončok: > > > On 29. 01. 19 19:04, John Harris wrote: > >> On Monday, January 28, 2019 12:27:19 PM EST Ben Cotton wrote: > >>> Remove packages from the distribution: > >>> * createrepo > >>> * yum > >>> * yum-langpacks > >>> * yum-u

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 at 07:11, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 11:49:55AM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > > 1) Move System-Wide and Self-Contained proposal deadlines to be the > > > same date and allow FESCO/etc determine if the proposal needs to be > > > moved to SW or SC then? > >

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

On Tue, 2019-01-29 at 14:31 -0500, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 at 05:42, Matthew Miller > wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 06:41:26PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > > This feels more like system-wide change… > > > > Especially since you say that some extra packages wil

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 11:49:55AM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > 1) Move System-Wide and Self-Contained proposal deadlines to be the > > same date and allow FESCO/etc determine if the proposal needs to be > > moved to SW or SC then? > This split between SW and SC was artificial since the beginning

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

Dne 29. 01. 19 v 20:31 Stephen John Smoogen napsal(a): > > > On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 at 05:42, Matthew Miller > wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 06:41:26PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > >This feels more like system-wide change… > > >Especially since you

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

* Miro Hrončok: > On 29. 01. 19 19:04, John Harris wrote: >> On Monday, January 28, 2019 12:27:19 PM EST Ben Cotton wrote: >>> Remove packages from the distribution: >>> * createrepo >>> * yum >>> * yum-langpacks >>> * yum-utils >>> * yum-metadata-parser >>> * yum-updatesd >>> * python-urlgrabber

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 at 05:42, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 06:41:26PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > >This feels more like system-wide change… > > >Especially since you say that some extra packages will be retired. > > > > A very limited set. The distro as a whole should not be

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

On 29. 01. 19 19:04, John Harris wrote: On Monday, January 28, 2019 12:27:19 PM EST Ben Cotton wrote: Remove packages from the distribution: * createrepo * yum * yum-langpacks * yum-utils * yum-metadata-parser * yum-updatesd * python-urlgrabber Are there already `dnf` equivalents to `createrep

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

On Monday, January 28, 2019 12:27:19 PM EST Ben Cotton wrote: > Remove packages from the distribution: > * createrepo > * yum > * yum-langpacks > * yum-utils > * yum-metadata-parser > * yum-updatesd > * python-urlgrabber Are there already `dnf` equivalents to `createrepo` and `yum-utils`? -- Joh

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

On Mon, 2019-01-28 at 12:27 -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > == Detailed Description == > Remove packages from the distribution: > * createrepo > * yum > * yum-langpacks > * yum-utils > * yum-metadata-parser > * yum-updatesd > * python-urlgrabber > > All these packages should no longer be used and all

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 06:41:26PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > >This feels more like system-wide change… > >Especially since you say that some extra packages will be retired. > > A very limited set. The distro as a whole should not be impacted by this. > > The retired packages are legacy cruft.

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

Igor Gnatenko píše v Po 28. 01. 2019 v 19:14 +0100: > Which includes: > * koji -- our buildsystem > * pungi -- our compose tool Not really. The only affected part is pungi-legacy subpackage, which provides /usr/bin/pungi command. While it still has some users, it is not part of any official releas

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

On Mon, 2019-01-28 at 12:27 -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > (Note this change was previously submitted for Fedora 29: > https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2064) > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Retire_YUM_3 > > == Summary == > Remove yum (v3) and all related packages from Fedora. > > == Owner ==

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 12:29 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > == Detailed Description == > Remove packages from the distribution: > [...] > * python-urlgrabber > We don't actually have to drop this one. One of the SUSE guys submitted a pull request to port it to Python 3: https://github.com/rpm-software

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

Which includes: * koji -- our buildsystem * pungi -- our compose tool * sigul -- our signing tool for RPMs On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 6:52 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 28. 01. 19 18:35, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > > This feels more like system-wide change… > > > > Especially since you say that some extr

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

On 28. 01. 19 18:35, Igor Gnatenko wrote: This feels more like system-wide change… Especially since you say that some extra packages will be retired. A very limited set. The distro as a whole should not be impacted by this. The retired packages are legacy cruft. And the important stuff that n

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

This feels more like system-wide change… Especially since you say that some extra packages will be retired. On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 6:33 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > (Note this change was previously submitted for Fedora 29: > https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2064) > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cha

F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Retire YUM 3

(Note this change was previously submitted for Fedora 29: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2064) https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Retire_YUM_3 == Summary == Remove yum (v3) and all related packages from Fedora. == Owner == * Name: [[User:mdomonko|Michal Domonkos]] * Email: mdomo...@redhat.com