In case if anybody is interested,
after mass rebuild we've dropped roughly 27709 dependencies on libraries in
RPM metadata which means that size of primary.xml has decreased by 1.3M
which would be something like 100K in gzip archive.. Which is not very
much, but it was never primary goal and still
> On Aug 2, 2018, at 2:57 AM, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Aug 02, 2018 at 11:45:00AM +0200, Dominique Martinet wrote:
>> Wearing a lib developer hat, I don't see how you can make a .pc that
>> doesn't overlink if you provide something a bit entangled with other
>> libs.
>> The problem is tha
On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 12:53 PM wrote:
>
> On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 4:57 AM, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
> > Changing the behavior of say -lpthread on the command line is a bad
> > idea,
> > many projects really expect it to mean that the mentioned library is
> > linked
> > in and if it no longer does, it
On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 4:57 AM, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
Changing the behavior of say -lpthread on the command line is a bad
idea,
many projects really expect it to mean that the mentioned library is
linked
in and if it no longer does, it causes silent breakage. Forcing
users to do
-Wl,--push-st
Rex Dieter wrote on Thu, Aug 02, 2018 at 10:14:13AM -0500:
> Dominique Martinet wrote:
> > In practice, `pkg-config --cflags foo` will only fetch cflags for
> > dependencies listed in Requires, not Requires.private
>
> pkg-config --cflags foo
> fetches cflags of Requires.private items in foo.pc fo
The real problem here is when you have complex frameworks like gtk.
pkg-config basically will link you against gdk, gdk-pixbuf, gtk and a lot
of other stuff. But in practice, not every application need to link against
all of them.
On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 6:11 PM Rex Dieter wrote:
> Dominique Mar
Dominique Martinet wrote:
> In practice, `pkg-config --cflags foo` will only fetch cflags for
> dependencies listed in Requires, not Requires.private
pkg-config --cflags foo
fetches cflags of Requires.private items in foo.pc for me.
I've patched many packages to use that feature, and haven't not
Rex Dieter wrote on Thu, Aug 02, 2018 at 08:37:34AM -0500:
> > Wearing a lib developer hat, I don't see how you can make a .pc that
> > doesn't overlink if you provide something a bit entangled with other
> > libs.
> > The problem is that if your headers use any sub-lib type you need to add
> > tha
Dominique Martinet wrote:
> Karel Zak wrote on Wed, Aug 01, 2018 at 01:17:29PM +0200:
>> Well, --as-needed is workaround and nothing else. The real problem is
>> mess in makefiles and .pc (pkg-config) files.
>>
>> It would be better to use --as-needed for testing purpose only, and
>> ask maintain
On Thu, Aug 02, 2018 at 11:45:00AM +0200, Dominique Martinet wrote:
> Wearing a lib developer hat, I don't see how you can make a .pc that
> doesn't overlink if you provide something a bit entangled with other
> libs.
> The problem is that if your headers use any sub-lib type you need to add
> that
Karel Zak wrote on Wed, Aug 01, 2018 at 01:17:29PM +0200:
> Well, --as-needed is workaround and nothing else. The real problem is
> mess in makefiles and .pc (pkg-config) files.
>
> It would be better to use --as-needed for testing purpose only, and
> ask maintainers why the result with --as-nee
On Tue, Jul 03, 2018 at 10:21:42AM +0200, Jan Kurik wrote:
> Note from Change Wrangler: This Change Proposal requires mass rebuild.
> However, two weeks ago (June 19th), we have already passed the
> deadline for Change proposals requiring mass rebuild. I will leave the
> decision whether this Chang
On Tue, Jul 03, 2018 at 10:21:42AM +0200, Jan Kurik wrote:
> * Other developers:
> Nothing should break, but immediate work-around would be to disable
> this flag (will be provided in redhat-rpm-config) and fix real issue
> later.
That is not true, this option is quite dangerous and breaks a lot o
On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 11:27 AM Matthew Miller
wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 03, 2018 at 10:21:42AM +0200, Jan Kurik wrote:
> > The use of the "--as-needed" flag allows the linker to avoid linking
> > extra libraries in a binary. This not only improves startup times (as
> > the loader does not have to loa
On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 5:18 AM Matthew Miller wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jul 03, 2018 at 10:21:42AM +0200, Jan Kurik wrote:
> > The use of the "--as-needed" flag allows the linker to avoid linking
> > extra libraries in a binary. This not only improves startup times (as
> > the loader does not have to loa
On Tue, Jul 03, 2018 at 10:21:42AM +0200, Jan Kurik wrote:
> The use of the "--as-needed" flag allows the linker to avoid linking
> extra libraries in a binary. This not only improves startup times (as
> the loader does not have to load all the libraries for every step) but
> might avoid the full i
On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 4:23 AM Jan Kurik wrote:
> Note from Change Wrangler: This Change Proposal requires mass rebuild.
> However, two weeks ago (June 19th), we have already passed the
> deadline for Change proposals requiring mass rebuild. I will leave the
> decision whether this Change proposa
Note from Change Wrangler: This Change Proposal requires mass rebuild.
However, two weeks ago (June 19th), we have already passed the
deadline for Change proposals requiring mass rebuild. I will leave the
decision whether this Change proposal is accepted or not to RelEng and
FESCo teams.
= Propose
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