On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 8:12 AM, Przemek Klosowski
wrote:
> On 02/22/2017 09:37 AM, Vratislav Podzimek wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2017-02-21 at 14:29 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
>
> Tested Fedora 24 and Fedora 23, there's no notification with either
> one of those. I have no idea if this is a VM thing. Or
On 02/22/2017 09:37 AM, Vratislav Podzimek wrote:
On Tue, 2017-02-21 at 14:29 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
Tested Fedora 24 and Fedora 23, there's no notification with either
one of those. I have no idea if this is a VM thing. Or if it's a
regression.
Maybe the notification was depending on smart
On Tue, 2017-02-21 at 12:32 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 6:34 AM, Vratislav Podzimek
> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 2017-02-01 at 12:25 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
> > >
> > > Actually, I've got a concern about this feature.
> > >
> > > I'm not sure what gnome-shell depends on
On Tue, 2017-02-21 at 14:29 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
> Tested Fedora 24 and Fedora 23, there's no notification with either
> one of those. I have no idea if this is a VM thing. Or if it's a
> regression.
>
> Maybe the notification was depending on smartd rather than mdadm.
> Kinda need someone w
On Tue, 2017-02-21 at 07:52 -0600, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Vratislav Podzimek said:
> >
> > On Tue, 2017-02-07 at 14:50 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
> > >
> > > My opinion of the change is limited to whether gnome-shell will still
> > > notify the user of device failures; if not, or
Tested Fedora 24 and Fedora 23, there's no notification with either
one of those. I have no idea if this is a VM thing. Or if it's a
regression.
Maybe the notification was depending on smartd rather than mdadm.
Kinda need someone who knows more about how GNOME Shell handles faulty
devices - how it
On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 6:34 AM, Vratislav Podzimek wrote:
> On Wed, 2017-02-01 at 12:25 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
>> Actually, I've got a concern about this feature.
>>
>> I'm not sure what gnome-shell depends on for monitoring mdadm arrays,
>> but I know it will put up a notification if an mdad
Once upon a time, Vratislav Podzimek said:
> On Tue, 2017-02-07 at 14:50 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
> > My opinion of the change is limited to whether gnome-shell will still
> > notify the user of device failures; if not, or if unknown then I think
> > the change should be rejected as lack of devi
On Tue, 2017-01-31 at 14:28 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> I would like the "User Experience" section to be fleshed-out a bit
> more. Currently it says "There should be no visible change for
> non-expert users. Expert users could make use of the new LVM RAID's
> features."
>
> I think, though, th
On Tue, 2017-01-31 at 15:52 -0400, Robert Marcano wrote:
> On 01/31/2017 03:44 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
> >
> >
> > Also: does this apply to /boot partition RAID 1? IIRC that didn't work
> > with LVM RAID at one time.
> >
>
> This is important, that mdraid is still available in anaconda and not
On Tue, 2017-01-31 at 13:44 -0600, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Matthew Miller said:
> >
> > I would like the "User Experience" section to be fleshed-out a bit
> > more. Currently it says "There should be no visible change for
> > non-expert users. Expert users could make use of the new
On Tue, 2017-01-31 at 07:05 -0800, Andrew Lutomirski wrote:
>
>
> On Jan 31, 2017 6:34 AM, "Chris Adams" wrote:
> Once upon a time, Jan Kurik said:
> > LVM RAID provides same functionality as MD
> > RAID (it shares the same kernel code) with better flexibility and
> > additional features expect
On Wed, 2017-02-01 at 12:25 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
> Actually, I've got a concern about this feature.
>
> I'm not sure what gnome-shell depends on for monitoring mdadm arrays,
> but I know it will put up a notification if an mdadm member becomes
> faulty; because I've seen this notification. M
On Tue, 2017-01-31 at 08:33 -0600, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Jan Kurik said:
> >
> > LVM RAID provides same functionality as MD
> > RAID (it shares the same kernel code) with better flexibility and
> > additional features expected in future.
>
> How do LVM RAID volumes get tested?
On Tue, 2017-02-07 at 14:50 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
> My opinion of the change is limited to whether gnome-shell will still
> notify the user of device failures; if not, or if unknown then I think
> the change should be rejected as lack of device failure notifications
> in the DE is a regression
My opinion of the change is limited to whether gnome-shell will still
notify the user of device failures; if not, or if unknown then I think
the change should be rejected as lack of device failure notifications
in the DE is a regression that outweighs the benefit. It's
Chris Murphy
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On Tue, 7 Feb 2017 12:27:20 -0800
Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 01/31/2017 12:02 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 7:33 AM, Chris Adams
> > wrote:
> >> How do LVM RAID volumes get tested? There's a regular cron job for
> >> testing MD RAID volumes, but I'm not aware of something l
On 02/07/2017 12:27 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 01/31/2017 12:02 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 7:33 AM, Chris Adams wrote:
>>> How do LVM RAID volumes get tested? There's a regular cron job for
>>> testing MD RAID volumes, but I'm not aware of something like that for
>>> LVM
On 01/31/2017 12:02 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 7:33 AM, Chris Adams wrote:
How do LVM RAID volumes get tested? There's a regular cron job for
testing MD RAID volumes, but I'm not aware of something like that for
LVM RAID.
I'm not aware of an upstream cron job for this; n
On 02/06/2017 03:16 AM, den...@ausil.us wrote:
Fedup has not existed for a few releases now. The upgrades are handled by dnf
alone.
Yes, but the command does still exist as a functional alias.
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On 2 February 2017 9:06:32 pm GMT+00:00, Chris Murphy
wrote:
>On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 3:38 AM, David Woodhouse
>wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure the upgrade method matters, does it? In both cases I
>think
>> it was changes to dracut and the way raid was assembled (perhaps
>moving
>> from automatically
On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 3:38 AM, David Woodhouse wrote:
> I'm not sure the upgrade method matters, does it? In both cases I think
> it was changes to dracut and the way raid was assembled (perhaps moving
> from automatically in the kernel to doing it in userspace, or vice
> versa).
The upgrade me
Please don't drop me from Cc when replying. I know the list has a
misguided setup, but mailers can be configured to ignore that. Thanks.
http://david.woodhou.se/reply-to-list.html
On Wed, 2017-02-01 at 12:13 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 4:55 AM, David Woodhouse wrote:
> >
Actually, I've got a concern about this feature.
I'm not sure what gnome-shell depends on for monitoring mdadm arrays,
but I know it will put up a notification if an mdadm member becomes
faulty; because I've seen this notification. Maybe it's getting this
information from udisksd? In any case, I'm
On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 4:55 AM, David Woodhouse wrote:
>
> Please ensure upgrades of systems using MD RAID are properly tested.
Please help test upgrades if there's a layout you want to work. The
only way anything gets tested is if someone does the test.
> My server at home broke on upgrading
On Tue, 2017-01-31 at 13:13 +0100, Jan Kurik wrote:
> = Proposed Self Contained Change: Anaconda LVM RAID =
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AnacondaLVMRAID
>
> Change owner(s):
> * Vratislav Podzimek (Anaconda/Blivet)
> * Heinz Mauelshagen (LVM)
>
> Use LVM RAID instead of LVM of top o
On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 12:52 PM, Robert Marcano
wrote:
> On 01/31/2017 03:44 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
>>
>>
>> Also: does this apply to /boot partition RAID 1? IIRC that didn't work
>> with LVM RAID at one time.
>>
>
> This is important, that mdraid is still available in anaconda and not
> entirel
On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 6:52 AM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
wrote:
> I'd like to see (a link to) a more comprehensive discussion of the
> purported advantages of LVM RAID over LVM on MD RAID here.
If the user never interacts with the storage stack, it's a wash.
Otherwise, the advantage is R
On Tue, 2017-01-31 at 15:52 -0400, Robert Marcano wrote:
> On 01/31/2017 03:44 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
> >
> > Also: does this apply to /boot partition RAID 1? IIRC that didn't
> > work
> > with LVM RAID at one time.
> >
>
> This is important, that mdraid is still available in anaconda and
> not
On 01/31/2017 03:44 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
Also: does this apply to /boot partition RAID 1? IIRC that didn't work
with LVM RAID at one time.
This is important, that mdraid is still available in anaconda and not
entirely replaced by LVM RAID. Not only /boot partition but UEFI boot
partition
Once upon a time, Matthew Miller said:
> I would like the "User Experience" section to be fleshed-out a bit
> more. Currently it says "There should be no visible change for
> non-expert users. Expert users could make use of the new LVM RAID's
> features."
At a minimum, it would be nice to have a
I would like the "User Experience" section to be fleshed-out a bit
more. Currently it says "There should be no visible change for
non-expert users. Expert users could make use of the new LVM RAID's
features."
I think, though, there's plenty of middle ground here: users who are
not experts in LVM
On Jan 31, 2017 6:34 AM, "Chris Adams" wrote:
Once upon a time, Jan Kurik said:
> LVM RAID provides same functionality as MD
> RAID (it shares the same kernel code) with better flexibility and
> additional features expected in future.
How do LVM RAID volumes get tested? There's a regular cron
Once upon a time, Jan Kurik said:
> LVM RAID provides same functionality as MD
> RAID (it shares the same kernel code) with better flexibility and
> additional features expected in future.
How do LVM RAID volumes get tested? There's a regular cron job for
testing MD RAID volumes, but I'm not awa
On Tuesday, 31 January 2017 at 13:13, Jan Kurik wrote:
> = Proposed Self Contained Change: Anaconda LVM RAID =
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AnacondaLVMRAID
>
> Change owner(s):
> * Vratislav Podzimek (Anaconda/Blivet)
> * Heinz Mauelshagen (LVM)
>
> Use LVM RAID instead of LVM of to
= Proposed Self Contained Change: Anaconda LVM RAID =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AnacondaLVMRAID
Change owner(s):
* Vratislav Podzimek (Anaconda/Blivet)
* Heinz Mauelshagen (LVM)
Use LVM RAID instead of LVM of top of MD RAID in the Anaconda installer.
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