Re: F24 System Wide Change: Systemd package split

2015-11-21 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 05:47:05PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 05:16:33PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 08:38:40AM -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > On 11/19/2

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Systemd package split

2015-11-21 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 05:16:33PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 08:38:40AM -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On 11/19/2015 09:04 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > > On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 10:28:25PM

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Systemd package split

2015-11-21 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 08:38:40AM -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 11/19/2015 09:04 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 10:28:25PM +, Richard W.M. Jones > > wrote: > >> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 05:32:02PM +0

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Systemd package split

2015-11-20 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/19/2015 09:04 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 10:28:25PM +, Richard W.M. Jones > wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 05:32:02PM +0100, Jan Kurik wrote: >>> * systemd-udev.rpm will consist of systemd-udevd, udeva

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Systemd package split

2015-11-19 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 02:51:39PM -0800, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 7:28 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 03:40:53PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > >> Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > >> > networkd+resolved is about 1MB, and more impor

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Systemd package split

2015-11-19 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 10:28:25PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 05:32:02PM +0100, Jan Kurik wrote: > > * systemd-udev.rpm will consist of systemd-udevd, udevadm, udev rules, > > and the hardware database. > > So close! libguestfs needs udevd and /sbin/reboot. Unfort

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Systemd package split

2015-11-19 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 7:28 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 03:40:53PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: >> Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: >> > networkd+resolved is about 1MB, and more importantly, they do not >> > bring in extra dependencies. We discussed also split

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Systemd package split

2015-11-19 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 05:32:02PM +0100, Jan Kurik wrote: > * systemd-udev.rpm will consist of systemd-udevd, udevadm, udev rules, > and the hardware database. So close! libguestfs needs udevd and /sbin/reboot. Unfortunately the latter is still part of the main systemd package. Rich. -- Rich

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Systemd package split

2015-11-19 Thread Brian C. Lane
On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 02:05:46PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 07:06:29AM +0100, Jan Kurik wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 9:07 PM, Brian C. Lane wrote: > > > Thanks for the heads up, note that systemd-machineid is used by Anaconda > > > for live installs

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Systemd package split

2015-11-19 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 03:40:53PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > networkd+resolved is about 1MB, and more importantly, they do not > > bring in extra dependencies. We discussed also splitting that out on > > the upstream mailing list, but in the end the gain di

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Systemd package split

2015-11-19 Thread Kevin Kofler
Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > Do you mean systemd-machine-id-setup (the helper to initialize > /etc/machine-id)? I guess so. Calamares also uses systemd-machine-id-setup, for the same reason. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedorapr

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Systemd package split

2015-11-19 Thread Kevin Kofler
Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > networkd+resolved is about 1MB, and more importantly, they do not > bring in extra dependencies. We discussed also splitting that out on > the upstream mailing list, but in the end the gain didn't seem important > enough. From a cleanliness standpoint, it still

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Systemd package split

2015-11-19 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 07:06:29AM +0100, Jan Kurik wrote: > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 9:07 PM, Brian C. Lane wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 05:32:02PM +0100, Jan Kurik wrote: > >> = Proposed System Wide Change: Systemd package split = > >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/systemd_package_

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Systemd package split

2015-11-19 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 09:01:35AM +0100, Petr Spacek wrote: > On 19.11.2015 08:52, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 1:06 AM, Jan Kurik wrote: > > > >> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 9:07 PM, Brian C. Lane wrote: > >>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 05:32:02PM +0100, Jan Kurik wrote: > = Pro

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Systemd package split

2015-11-19 Thread Petr Spacek
On 19.11.2015 08:52, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 1:06 AM, Jan Kurik wrote: > >> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 9:07 PM, Brian C. Lane wrote: >>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 05:32:02PM +0100, Jan Kurik wrote: = Proposed System Wide Change: Systemd package split = https://fedoraproj

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Systemd package split

2015-11-18 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 1:06 AM, Jan Kurik wrote: > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 9:07 PM, Brian C. Lane wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 05:32:02PM +0100, Jan Kurik wrote: > >> = Proposed System Wide Change: Systemd package split = > >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/systemd_package_split >

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Systemd package split

2015-11-18 Thread Jan Kurik
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 9:07 PM, Brian C. Lane wrote: > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 05:32:02PM +0100, Jan Kurik wrote: >> = Proposed System Wide Change: Systemd package split = >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/systemd_package_split >> >> Change owner(s): >> Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek >> >>

F24 System Wide Change: Systemd package split

2015-11-18 Thread Jan Kurik
= Proposed System Wide Change: Systemd package split = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/systemd_package_split Change owner(s): Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek Two new subpackages will be split out from the main systemd package. systemd-container will contain stuff for launching and managing VM