On 02/10/2016 07:35 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 1:26 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
>> Miro Hrončok (mhron...@redhat.com) said:
>>> I had this in mind as well, but currently, this is not the part of the
>>> change. Once we need this and we have system-python, we can propose a
>>> s
> "VO" == Vít Ondruch writes:
VO> Since this is about disk size, I proposed already quite long ago to
VO> not ship the source *.py code, e.g. there could be something like:
Yes, this is something I've looked at as part of trying to clean up
python packaging with new macros. It's certainly p
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 01:15:58PM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 5:38 AM, Petr Viktorin wrote:
> > On 02/09/2016 08:26 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> >> The scheme with automatic dependency generation could be implemented
> >> gradually, by introducing the automatic
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 1:26 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Miro Hrončok (mhron...@redhat.com) said:
>> I had this in mind as well, but currently, this is not the part of the
>> change. Once we need this and we have system-python, we can propose a
>> system wide change that system-python is a differ
Miro Hrončok (mhron...@redhat.com) said:
> I had this in mind as well, but currently, this is not the part of the
> change. Once we need this and we have system-python, we can propose a
> system wide change that system-python is a different version.
... is the goal that the system-python is outsi
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 5:38 AM, Petr Viktorin wrote:
> On 02/09/2016 08:26 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
>> The scheme with automatic dependency generation could be implemented
>> gradually, by introducing the automatic provides and dependencies
>> generators, without removing current ma
Since this is about disk size, I proposed already quite long ago to not
ship the source *.py code, e.g. there could be something like:
python-foo-source
python2-foo
python3-foo
And in the python{2,3}-foo could be "Suggests: python-foo-source" (or
Recommends, since there were some voices that the
On 10.2.2016 13:41, Josh Boyer wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 5:38 AM, Petr Viktorin wrote:
>> On 02/09/2016 08:26 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
>>
>>> Second, why call it python-*, not python3-*? I think it'll
>>> be endlessly confusing to have both python*- (v3), python2-* (v2),
>>> a
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 5:38 AM, Petr Viktorin wrote:
> On 02/09/2016 08:26 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
>
>> Second, why call it python-*, not python3-*? I think it'll
>> be endlessly confusing to have both python*- (v3), python2-* (v2),
>> and python3-* (v3) mixed in the same distro.
>
On 02/09/2016 08:26 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 08, 2016 at 08:27:53AM +0100, Jan Kurik wrote:
>> = Proposed Self Contained Change: System Python =
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/System_Python
>>
>> Change owner(s):
>> * Miro Hrončok
>> * Petr Viktorin
>> * Robe
W dniu 10.02.2016 o 09:13, Colin Walters pisze:
The OpenEmbedded project has been doing this for quite a while:
Note that distributions built using OpenEmbedded are meant for storage
limited devices.
Years ago I had to squeeze kernel, Python, gstreamer and working system
into 16MB of flash.
The OpenEmbedded project has been doing this for quite a while:
http://cgit.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/tree/meta/recipes-devtools/python/python-2.7-manifest.inc
--
devel mailing list
devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 2:26 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
wrote:
>
> As an alternative proposal, what about using an automatic dependency
> generator and having dependent packages require specific modules from
> the standard library. Those modules could then be moved between
> system-python-libs
On Mon, Feb 08, 2016 at 08:27:53AM +0100, Jan Kurik wrote:
> = Proposed Self Contained Change: System Python =
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/System_Python
>
> Change owner(s):
> * Miro Hrončok
> * Petr Viktorin
> * Robert Kuska
> * Charalampos Stratakis
>
> Separate several subpackage
>>> Part of the change is defining the exact subset. The idea is that it
>>> should be small, to keep cloud images small for apps that don't use
>>> Python themselves.
>>
>> Wouldn't it be a better goal to not have Python at all on Cloud images?
>>
>
> So... no dnf? That seems a little unlikely to
On Mon, Feb 08, 2016 at 11:16:58AM -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
> If Cloud becomes Atomic, it probably wouldn't have dnf. Current atomic
> builds don't. I'm not sure how far off the hybrid rpm install rpms in
> an rpm-ostree release is going to be.
The other case where minimization is really importa
On Mon, Feb 08, 2016 at 06:45:10PM +0100, Mathieu Bridon wrote:
> > Part of the change is defining the exact subset. The idea is that it
> > should be small, to keep cloud images small for apps that don't use
> > Python themselves.
> Wouldn't it be a better goal to not have Python at all on Cloud i
On 02/08/2016 01:16 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 10:47 AM, Stephen Gallagher
> wrote:
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> On 02/08/2016 12:45 PM, Mathieu Bridon wrote:
>>> On Mon, 2016-02-08 at 17:21 +0100, Petr Viktorin wrote:
Part of the change i
On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 10:47 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> On 02/08/2016 12:45 PM, Mathieu Bridon wrote:
>> On Mon, 2016-02-08 at 17:21 +0100, Petr Viktorin wrote:
>>> Part of the change is defining the exact subset. The idea is that it
>>> shou
On Mon, 2016-02-08 at 12:47 -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> On 02/08/2016 12:45 PM, Mathieu Bridon wrote:
> > On Mon, 2016-02-08 at 17:21 +0100, Petr Viktorin wrote:
> > > Part of the change is defining the exact subset. The idea is that
> > > it
> > > should be small, to keep cloud images small
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
On 02/08/2016 12:45 PM, Mathieu Bridon wrote:
> On Mon, 2016-02-08 at 17:21 +0100, Petr Viktorin wrote:
>> Part of the change is defining the exact subset. The idea is that it
>> should be small, to keep cloud images small for apps that don't use
>>
On Mon, 2016-02-08 at 17:21 +0100, Petr Viktorin wrote:
> Part of the change is defining the exact subset. The idea is that it
> should be small, to keep cloud images small for apps that don't use
> Python themselves.
Wouldn't it be a better goal to not have Python at all on Cloud images?
--
Ma
On 02/08/2016 02:13 PM, Jonathan Wakely wrote:
> On 08/02/16 08:27 +0100, Jan Kurik wrote:
>> python3 package to be split in several more subpackages:
>> * system-python-libs - a subset of standard Python library considered
>> essential to run "system tools" requiring Python
>> * system-python - /u
On 02/08/2016 09:21 AM, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 2:37 AM, Florian Weimer wrote:
>> On 02/08/2016 08:27 AM, Jan Kurik wrote:
>>> = Proposed Self Contained Change: System Python =
>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/System_Python
>>
>> Is this intended to mirror Debian's pyt
On 08/02/16 08:27 +0100, Jan Kurik wrote:
python3 package to be split in several more subpackages:
* system-python-libs - a subset of standard Python library considered
essential to run "system tools" requiring Python
* system-python - /usr/bin/system-python binary (interpreter) for the
tools to
On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 2:37 AM, Florian Weimer wrote:
> On 02/08/2016 08:27 AM, Jan Kurik wrote:
>> = Proposed Self Contained Change: System Python =
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/System_Python
>
> Is this intended to mirror Debian's python-minimal?
>
> What steps have been taken to ac
On 02/08/2016 08:27 AM, Jan Kurik wrote:
> = Proposed Self Contained Change: System Python =
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/System_Python
Is this intended to mirror Debian's python-minimal?
What steps have been taken to accommodate Python upstream's wishes
against creating subsets of th
= Proposed Self Contained Change: System Python =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/System_Python
Change owner(s):
* Miro Hrončok
* Petr Viktorin
* Robert Kuska
* Charalampos Stratakis
Separate several subpackages form the python3 packages - a
system-python(-libs) that can be required by va
28 matches
Mail list logo
