Re: F23 System Wide Change: Python 3 as Default

2015-06-19 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 2:49 AM, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: > - Original Message - >> On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: >> >> It is written in a scope what does 'default' stands for. >> >> Also from a additional porting POV (packages which ain't covered by scope >> >> an

Re: F23 System Wide Change: Python 3 as Default

2015-06-18 Thread Bohuslav Kabrda
- Original Message - > On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: > >> It is written in a scope what does 'default' stands for. > >> Also from a additional porting POV (packages which ain't covered by scope > >> and are python2 only) it is important to have stated that the def

Re: F23 System Wide Change: Python 3 as Default

2015-06-18 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: >> It is written in a scope what does 'default' stands for. >> Also from a additional porting POV (packages which ain't covered by scope >> and are python2 only) it is important to have stated that the default python >> for Fedora is python3

Re: F23 System Wide Change: Python 3 as Default

2015-06-18 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 9:46 AM, Robert Kuska wrote: > > > - Original Message - >> From: "Kevin Fenzi" >> To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org >> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 9:11:36 PM >> Subject: Re: F23 System Wide Change: Python 3 as Defa

Re: F23 System Wide Change: Python 3 as Default

2015-06-18 Thread Bohuslav Kabrda
- Original Message - > - Original Message - > > From: "Kevin Fenzi" > > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > > Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 9:11:36 PM > > Subject: Re: F23 System Wide Change: Python 3 as Default > > > > Greeting

Re: F23 System Wide Change: Python 3 as Default

2015-06-18 Thread Robert Kuska
- Original Message - > From: "Kevin Fenzi" > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 9:11:36 PM > Subject: Re: F23 System Wide Change: Python 3 as Default > > Greetings. > > In today's FESCo meeting we had a lot of dis

Re: F23 System Wide Change: Python 3 as Default

2015-06-17 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Greetings. In today's FESCo meeting we had a lot of discussion about this change. You can read the meeting yourself in: http://meetbot-raw.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-06-17/fesco.2015-06-17-18.00.log.html#l-109 Speaking only for myself here: I am very happy we are moving more thin

Re: dnf-2 on F23 (Re: F23 System Wide Change: Python 3 as Default)

2015-06-12 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 04:22:38AM -0400, Radek Holy wrote: > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek" > > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > > Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 10:05:41 PM > > Subject: Re: F23 System W

dnf-2 on F23 (Re: F23 System Wide Change: Python 3 as Default)

2015-06-12 Thread Radek Holy
- Original Message - > From: "Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek" > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 10:05:41 PM > Subject: Re: F23 System Wide Change: Python 3 as Default > > On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 08:50:14AM -0400, Jan Kurik

Re: F23 System Wide Change: Python 3 as Default

2015-06-11 Thread Bohuslav Kabrda
- Original Message - > On Thu, Jun 11, 2015, at 04:40 PM, Adam Miller wrote: > > > I think the point that Colin is trying to make is that while Atomic > > Host does not depend on Ansible being installed, it is a very popular > > utility used to remotely manage (potentially large) sets of A

Re: F23 System Wide Change: Python 3 as Default

2015-06-11 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015, at 04:40 PM, Adam Miller wrote: > I think the point that Colin is trying to make is that while Atomic > Host does not depend on Ansible being installed, it is a very popular > utility used to remotely manage (potentially large) sets of Atomic > Hosts. Right, see https://gith

Re: F23 System Wide Change: Python 3 as Default

2015-06-11 Thread Adam Miller
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Colin Walters wrote: > On Thu, Jun 11, 2015, at 09:30 AM, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: > >> Could you please be more specific with your answers? What does *there* mean? > > there = Atomic Host I think the point that Colin is trying to make is that while Atomic Host doe

Re: F23 System Wide Change: Python 3 as Default

2015-06-11 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015, at 09:30 AM, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: > Could you please be more specific with your answers? What does *there* mean? there = Atomic Host -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://f

Re: F23 System Wide Change: Python 3 as Default

2015-06-11 Thread Bohuslav Kabrda
- Original Message - > On Thu, Jun 11, 2015, at 09:03 AM, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: > > > > > Which means that it isn't *in* the Atomic host itself, but it is only used > > to *control instances* of Atomic host, is that correct? If so, I see no > > conflict with the proposed change. > > It'

Re: F23 System Wide Change: Python 3 as Default

2015-06-11 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015, at 09:03 AM, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: > > Which means that it isn't *in* the Atomic host itself, but it is only used to > *control instances* of Atomic host, is that correct? If so, I see no conflict > with the proposed change. It's not a conflict. I'm just making the poin

Re: F23 System Wide Change: Python 3 as Default

2015-06-11 Thread Bohuslav Kabrda
- Original Message - > > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2015, at 04:01 AM, Robert Kuska wrote: > > > Does it mean that Ansible is shipped by default with Atomic host? > > > > We were working with data provided by > > https://git.fedorahosted.org/git/fedora-atomic.git > > and there is no ansible list

Re: F23 System Wide Change: Python 3 as Default

2015-06-11 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015, at 04:01 AM, Robert Kuska wrote: > Does it mean that Ansible is shipped by default with Atomic host? > > We were working with data provided by > https://git.fedorahosted.org/git/fedora-atomic.git > and there is no ansible listed within packages. Ansible is agentless, you

Re: F23 System Wide Change: Python 3 as Default

2015-06-11 Thread Robert Kuska
- Original Message - > From: "Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek" > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 10:05:41 PM > Subject: Re: F23 System Wide Change: Python 3 as Default > > On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 08:50:14AM -0400, Jan Kurik

Re: F23 System Wide Change: Python 3 as Default

2015-06-11 Thread Robert Kuska
- Original Message - > From: "Colin Walters" > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:15:27 PM > Subject: Re: F23 System Wide Change: Python 3 as Default > > On Wed, Jun 10, 2015, at 08:50 AM, Jan Kurik wrote: > > >

Re: F23 System Wide Change: Python 3 as Default

2015-06-10 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 08:50:14AM -0400, Jan Kurik wrote: > = Proposed System Wide Change: Python 3 as Default = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Python_3_as_Default > > Change owner(s): > * Slavek Kabrda > * Matej Stuchlik > * Miro Hroncok > * Thomas Spura > * Robert Kuska > > Up u

Re: F23 System Wide Change: Python 3 as Default

2015-06-10 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015, at 08:50 AM, Jan Kurik wrote: > > * Python 3 is the only Python implementation in Atomic host That's not going to happen unless Ansible learns how to deal with Python 3 at least: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2015-January/206903.html So again, this ch

F23 System Wide Change: Python 3 as Default

2015-06-10 Thread Jan Kurik
= Proposed System Wide Change: Python 3 as Default = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Python_3_as_Default Change owner(s): * Slavek Kabrda * Matej Stuchlik * Miro Hroncok * Thomas Spura * Robert Kuska Up until now, Fedora has used Python 2 as the default Python implementation. This ch