Re: F22: Software for update

2015-09-29 Thread kendell clark
hi This brings up a very good point. Why wasn't some kind of user feedback not developed for gnome 3.18? Now I am still waiting for gnome 3.18 to hit arch, and my fedora rawhide instal doesn't have it yet, so this could've been added, but I doubt it having checked the commit logs and news files. I

Re: F22: Software for update

2015-09-29 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 00:40:24 -0400, Eric Griffith wrote: > But that's just happening, there's no user interaction. The user isnt > waiting on it. Software, on the other hand, is being asked "Hey can you > check for updates?" And then not displaying the feedback the user was > expecting until it

Re: F22: Software for update

2015-09-29 Thread Eric Griffith
On Sep 30, 2015 12:22 AM, "Ben Boeckel" wrote: > > On Tue, 29 Sep, 2015 at 17:08:17 GMT, Eric Griffith wrote: > > update system-- yum never downloaded the packages as part of the check, DNF > > doesn't, App Store / Play Store don't download as part of a check, Windows > > Update doesn't > > That's

Re: F22: Software for update

2015-09-29 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Tue, 29 Sep, 2015 at 17:08:17 GMT, Eric Griffith wrote: > update system-- yum never downloaded the packages as part of the check, DNF > doesn't, App Store / Play Store don't download as part of a check, Windows > Update doesn't That's not exactly true anymore for Windows. http://arstechni

Re: F22: Software for update

2015-09-29 Thread Andrew Clayton
On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 18:32:51 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: > We only do the auto-refresh on wired or wifi connections. If you chose > to do the manual refresh button on mobile data that's up to the user. My ADSL connection (in the UK) is metered which is why I've masked off all the dnf systemd stu

RE: F22: Software for update

2015-09-29 Thread Avery, David
...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Richard Hughes Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 11:33 AM To: Development discussions related to Fedora Subject: Re: F22: Software for update On 29 September 2015 at 18:08, Eric Griffith wrote: > That seems like a really bad idea.. The alternative is

Re: F22: Software for update

2015-09-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2015-09-29 at 22:26 +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > I don't see anything in that which says it detects wifi tethering. > > 'capture portal detection' is something else, and exposing whether > > a > > connection is metered or not through the API is nice, but doesn't > > mean > > the informatio

Re: F22: Software for update

2015-09-29 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 01:20:25PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > > > > Is there a reliable way to detect that though? If I tether via my > > > > phone or > > > > turn my phone into a hotspot it comes up as Ethernet or WiFi, > > > > respectively. > > > > It seems like we are going to run

Re: F22: Software for update

2015-09-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2015-09-29 at 21:53 +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 12:21:28PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Tue, 2015-09-29 at 14:38 -0400, Eric Griffith wrote: > > > There's also the fact that if > > > > > the connection is metered then we just ripped through a chunk > > > > >

Re: F22: Software for update

2015-09-29 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 12:21:28PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2015-09-29 at 14:38 -0400, Eric Griffith wrote: > > There's also the fact that if > > > > the connection is metered then we just ripped through a chunk of > > > > their > > data. > > > > > > We only do the auto-refresh on w

Re: F22: Software for update

2015-09-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2015-09-29 at 14:38 -0400, Eric Griffith wrote: > There's also the fact that if > > > the connection is metered then we just ripped through a chunk of > > > their > data. > > > > We only do the auto-refresh on wired or wifi connections. If you > > chose > > to do the manual refresh button

Re: F22: Software for update

2015-09-29 Thread Eric Griffith
On Sep 29, 2015 1:32 PM, "Richard Hughes" wrote: > > On 29 September 2015 at 18:08, Eric Griffith wrote: > > That seems like a really bad idea.. > > The alternative is we have a "download" stage, which means we can't do > the blue "restart and update" action as it would download for a few > minut

Re: F22: Software for update

2015-09-29 Thread Richard Hughes
On 29 September 2015 at 18:08, Eric Griffith wrote: > That seems like a really bad idea.. The alternative is we have a "download" stage, which means we can't do the blue "restart and update" action as it would download for a few minutes, and then randomly reboot when you had just started doing so

Re: F22: Software for update

2015-09-29 Thread Albino B Neto
2015-09-29 14:08 GMT-03:00 Eric Griffith : > That seems like a really bad idea.. The icon for "check for updates" gives > off the perception of "check" or "refresh", I would not assume either of > those actions would actually download the updates. It leads to a bad user > experience, as evident abo

Re: F22: Software for update

2015-09-29 Thread Eric Griffith
On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 29 September 2015 at 14:50, Eric Griffith > wrote: > > Installing applications is fine but updates always seem to take two-three > > times as long to display available updates vs me running "dnf update" and > > getting a package list b

Re: F22: Software for update

2015-09-29 Thread Albino B Neto
2015-09-29 10:50 GMT-03:00 Eric Griffith : > Gnome Software definitely needs some love on the performance side of things. > Installing applications is fine but updates always seem to take two-three > times as long to display available updates vs me running "dnf update" and > getting a package list

Re: F22: Software for update

2015-09-29 Thread Richard Hughes
On 29 September 2015 at 14:50, Eric Griffith wrote: > Installing applications is fine but updates always seem to take two-three > times as long to display available updates vs me running "dnf update" and > getting a package list back. gnome-software is actually depsolving and downloading the upda

Re: F22: Software for update

2015-09-29 Thread Eric Griffith
Gnome Software definitely needs some love on the performance side of things. Installing applications is fine but updates always seem to take two-three times as long to display available updates vs me running "dnf update" and getting a package list back. Not sure if dnf is just that much faster or i

F22: Software for update

2015-09-29 Thread Albino B Neto
Hi The software for update on system is bug, because, I loading more five minutes to show packages no messages, still loading...I tested many times. I use 'dnf update', not interface. Albino -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/