On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> On 24 August 2013 12:35, inode0 wrote:
>
>>
>> > If you don't want to deal with names, just don't get in the emails or
>> > vote..
>> > because it isn't worth getting worked up over.
>>
>> No point saying that because it won't happen.
On 24 August 2013 12:35, inode0 wrote:
> > If you don't want to deal with names, just don't get in the emails or
> vote..
> > because it isn't worth getting worked up over.
>
> No point saying that because it won't happen. This was just an
> announcement of the vote and look where it has gone. T
On 24 August 2013 16:38, drago01 wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Mathieu Bridon
> wrote:
>> On Friday, August 23, 2013 08:34 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Paul Wouters
>>> wrote:
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013, Chris Murphy wrote:
>
> On Au
On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 13:35:40 -0500, inode0 wrote:
> [...] This was just an announcement of the vote and look where it has
> gone.
It was the missing announcement that made me start this thread, after I
had learnt late about the almost ended election in the German Fedora forum
and nowhere else.
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> On 24 August 2013 10:55, inode0 wrote:
>> If "None" was an option, which I think is a terrible idea, the only
>> thing you could conclude from it winning is the we preferred to not
>> have a release name in this election given the nam
On 24 August 2013 10:55, inode0 wrote:
>
> If "None" was an option, which I think is a terrible idea, the only
> thing you could conclude from it winning is the we preferred to not
> have a release name in this election given the names on the ballot. It
> would mean absolutely nothing about wheth
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Mathieu Bridon
wrote:
> That begs the question: what if the elected word has received a very low
> score compared to the maximum possible?
Doesn't matter.
> That would mean that it received a very small support from our community,
> and in fact that the majority
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Mathieu Bridon
wrote:
> On Saturday, August 24, 2013 11:38 PM, drago01 wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Mathieu Bridon
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 23, 2013 08:34 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Paul Woute
On Saturday, August 24, 2013 11:38 PM, drago01 wrote:
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Mathieu Bridon
wrote:
On Friday, August 23, 2013 08:34 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Paul Wouters
wrote:
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Aug 22, 2013, at 6:12 PM,
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Mathieu Bridon
wrote:
> On Friday, August 23, 2013 08:34 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Paul Wouters
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, 22 Aug 2013, Chris Murphy wrote:
>>>
On Aug 22, 2013, at 6:12 PM, Josh Boyer
wrote:
>
On Friday, August 23, 2013 08:34 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Paul Wouters wrote:
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Aug 22, 2013, at 6:12 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
I'm not necessarily disagreeing, but there are essentially two camps
right now. Those that
On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 17:39 -0700, Dan Mashal wrote:
> I personally LOVE release names. However, I feel that we should forego
> it this one release.
>
> What is the point of the board of the community decides everything?
>
> We all know that there needs to be a tough decision made by the board,
>
Toshio Kuratomi gmail.com> writes:
> We could just put the release number into those files and keep the release
> name in our heads, I suppose. There wouldn't be a technical downside to
> that but I don't know whether people would like that socially or not.
When I said "release name" I meant ju
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 11:55:44PM +, Andre Robatino wrote:
> Josh Boyer fedoraproject.org> writes:
>
> > The Board has an open ticket on the naming process. We're working
> > through it now, but "no release names" isn't an immediate option
> > because the last time we proposed that the comm
Josh Boyer fedoraproject.org> writes:
> The Board has an open ticket on the naming process. We're working
> through it now, but "no release names" isn't an immediate option
> because the last time we proposed that the community vote showed names
> were still desired. Hopefully we'll resolve the
On 23/08/13 17:49 -0400, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote:
> Or how about "None". It even fits with the lineage -- just like the
> Schrodinger's cat, it's neither False nor True. It's None.
>
> That would be a worthy tribute to the pythonista and the release-name hater.
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On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
> Can we request an exception from the board to add "" (empty string) as
> an option for _just_ the F20 naming poll?
Or how about "None". It even fits with the lineage -- just like the
Schrodinger's cat, it's neither False nor True. It's None.
On 08/23/2013 04:27 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
> Can we request an exception from the board to add "" (empty string) as
> an option for _just_ the F20 naming poll?
You'd have to reset voting, too. I've already voted, but I'd re-vote to vote for
no name.
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On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 8:34 AM, Josh Boyer wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Paul Wouters wrote:
>> It would be good if the next vote would allow "none" as an option. I
>> could not vote 'none' on the last election. And I think it is important
>> to track the percentage of people who want
On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 09:04:54 -0500, inode0 wrote:
> [...] so why do we have to keep going over this?
Dunno whether we _have_ to. The original purpose of this thread has been a
different one.
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On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> I don't think it's been hatred (or passionate fighting, or else he would
> have tried to reach a decision at the FPB level), but indeed, he has been
> one of those who think the release name process is a waste of time and of
> no use.
>
>
On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 13:39:40 +0200, Tomas Radej wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 18:23:39 -0600
> Chris Murphy wrote:
>
>
>
> > I'd back no release name for 20 with 8 points and 0 for everything else, if
> > it's an option, and in particular if the marketing includes to the effect
> > of
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Paul Wouters wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Aug 2013, Chris Murphy wrote:
>
>>
>> On Aug 22, 2013, at 6:12 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not necessarily disagreeing, but there are essentially two camps
>>> right now. Those that don't care about release names one bi
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:39 PM, Dan Mashal wrote:
>> It will be dedicated in the release announcement. Perhaps someone
>> might add something to the download page on the website as well.
>>
>
> Hi Josh,
>
> Thanks for replying.
>
> I personally LOVE release names. However, I feel that we should
Hi,
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 18:23:39 -0600
Chris Murphy wrote:
> I'd back no release name for 20 with 8 points and 0 for everything else, if
> it's an option, and in particular if the marketing includes to the effect of:
> "Fedora 20 is nameless in honor of Seth Vidal who hated release names wit
You forgot the third camp, who want their release names without punctuation
so it doesn't break a decade of configuration scripting. Releases need
punctuation and non-7-bit ASCII in their names like goldfish need martinis.
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013
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On Thu, 22 Aug 2013, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Aug 22, 2013, at 6:12 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
I'm not necessarily disagreeing, but there are essentially two camps
right now. Those that don't care about release names one bit (like
me), and those that do. If those that do care want better names,
t
On Aug 22, 2013, at 6:12 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
>
> I'm not necessarily disagreeing, but there are essentially two camps
> right now. Those that don't care about release names one bit (like
> me), and those that do. If those that do care want better names,
> they'll need to work harder at creat
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Aug 22, 2013, at 6:05 PM, Dan Mashal wrote:
>>
>> How about no release name, just this one time. In his honor?
>
> I'd back no release name for 20 with 8 points and 0 for everything else, if
> it's an option, and in particular if the mark
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Dan Mashal wrote:
>
> The choices are what the community came up with. At this point, that
> is what we have to chose from.
>
> I'm not necessarily disagreeing, but there are essentially two camps
> right now.
On Aug 22, 2013, at 6:05 PM, Dan Mashal wrote:
>
> How about no release name, just this one time. In his honor?
I'd back no release name for 20 with 8 points and 0 for everything else, if
it's an option, and in particular if the marketing includes to the effect of:
"Fedora 20 is nameless in h
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Dan Mashal wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>> *smack own forehead* I like that better than the other options also. For me,
>> one extra point for Vidalia onion over "20".
>>
>> Heck I like "Crazy Train" based on a recent Matthew Mill
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> *smack own forehead* I like that better than the other options also. For me,
> one extra point for Vidalia onion over "20".
>
> Heck I like "Crazy Train" based on a recent Matthew Miller assertion.
>
> Assuming there can be no late add ins th
On Aug 22, 2013, at 2:53 PM, Dan Mashal wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Stephen John Smoogen
> wrote:
>> I believe that it was decided that like had been done in the past, this
>> release would be dedicated to Seth Vidal, but not named after him as Seth
>> hated released names with a
Il 23/08/2013 01:22, punto...@libero.it ha scritto:
Il 22/08/2013 22:53, Dan Mashal ha scritto:
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Stephen John Smoogen
wrote:
I believe that it was decided that like had been done in the past, this
release would be dedicated to Seth Vidal, but not named after him
Il 22/08/2013 22:53, Dan Mashal ha scritto:
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
I believe that it was decided that like had been done in the past, this
release would be dedicated to Seth Vidal, but not named after him as Seth
hated released names with a white hot passio
Il 23/08/2013 01:08, David ha scritto:
On 8/22/2013 7:03 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Aug 22, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
[Of course he would probably still laugh if the release was named Vidalia
Onion]
HEY! Why isn't Vidalia Onion one of the name options? That's way bette
On 8/22/2013 7:03 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>
> On Aug 22, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
>
>> [Of course he would probably still laugh if the release was named Vidalia
>> Onion]
>
> HEY! Why isn't Vidalia Onion one of the name options? That's way better than
> any of the other
On Aug 22, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> [Of course he would probably still laugh if the release was named Vidalia
> Onion]
HEY! Why isn't Vidalia Onion one of the name options? That's way better than
any of the other options.
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On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> I believe that it was decided that like had been done in the past, this
> release would be dedicated to Seth Vidal, but not named after him as Seth
> hated released names with a white hot passion of 10,000 supernovas. [Of
> course he w
On 22 August 2013 14:45, Dan Mashal wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Stephen John Smoogen
> wrote:
> >
> >
> What happened to naming 20 in honor of Seth?
>
> Dan
>
>
I believe that it was decided that like had been done in the past, this
release would be dedicated to Seth Vidal, but no
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
>
>
>
> On 22 August 2013 13:31, Michael Schwendt wrote:
>>
>> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/relnamef20
>>
>> Is this thing for real?
>>
>> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/
>> says the End Date is 2013-08-23 23:59
On 22 August 2013 13:31, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/relnamef20
>
> Is this thing for real?
>
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/
> says the End Date is 2013-08-23 23:59:59.
>
> Where has it been announced this time?
> There's nothing in the archiv
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/relnamef20
Is this thing for real?
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/
says the End Date is 2013-08-23 23:59:59.
Where has it been announced this time?
There's nothing in the archives for announce and devel-announce list.
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