On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:01 AM, Josh Boyer wrote:
>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 4:28 AM, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 7:24 AM, Neal Gompa wrote:
> What about some kind of virtual provides defined in repos/rpm/somewher
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:01 AM, Josh Boyer wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 4:28 AM, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 7:24 AM, Neal Gompa wrote:
>>> > What about some kind of virtual provides defined in repos/rpm/somewhere
>>> > that
>>> > would automatically grab the kernel-d
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 4:28 AM, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 7:24 AM, Neal Gompa wrote:
>> > What about some kind of virtual provides defined in repos/rpm/somewhere
>> > that
>> > would automatically grab the kernel-devel package associated with the exact
>> > kernel that is
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 4:28 AM, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 7:24 AM, Neal Gompa wrote:
>> > What about some kind of virtual provides defined in repos/rpm/somewhere
>> > that
>> > would automatically grab the kernel-devel package associated with the exact
>> > kernel that is
> On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 7:24 AM, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > What about some kind of virtual provides defined in repos/rpm/somewhere that
> > would automatically grab the kernel-devel package associated with the exact
> > kernel that is running at the time yum/dnf is installing a program that
> > depe
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On 06/12/2015 03:23 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:
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>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 9:18 AM, Ralf Corsepius
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 06/12/2015 02:48 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:
>>>
Soft/weak dependencies are allowed, according to FESCo
>>>
>>>
>>> It doesn
On 06/12/2015 03:23 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 9:18 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 06/12/2015 02:48 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:
Soft/weak dependencies are allowed, according to FESCo
It doesn't matter much what FESCO says of believes in this case.
ATM, neither is the technical i
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 9:18 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On 06/12/2015 02:48 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:
>
>> Soft/weak dependencies are allowed, according to FESCo
>
> It doesn't matter much what FESCO says of believes in this case.
>
> ATM, neither is the technical infrastructure is in place (it is ev
On 06/12/2015 02:48 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:
Soft/weak dependencies are allowed, according to FESCo
It doesn't matter much what FESCO says of believes in this case.
ATM, neither is the technical infrastructure is in place (it is
evolving) nor are impact/consequences clear not are the prototypic
On 06/12/2015 02:40 PM, Radek Holy wrote:
AFAIK, it is discussed these days whether weak dependencies can be
used to express package preferences:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/WeakDependencies IIRC,
there were some concerns but I don't remember what was the
conclusion.
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> > > Subject: Can soft dependencies help to get the proper kernel-devel
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> > Josh Boyer wrote on 12.06.2015 13:55:
> > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 7:24 AM, Neal Gomp
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Josh Boyer wrote on 12.06.2015 13:55:
> On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 7:24 AM, Neal Gompa wrote:
> [...]
> As I said, there are no great solutions here.
A "works most of the time"-solution would be: Install kernel-devel by
default. But I'm not seriously suggesting that, because I fully agree:
It's not
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 7:24 AM, Neal Gompa wrote:
> What about some kind of virtual provides defined in repos/rpm/somewhere that
> would automatically grab the kernel-devel package associated with the exact
> kernel that is running at the time yum/dnf is installing a program that
> depends on it?
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 8:44 AM, Dan Book wrote:
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> On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 2:12 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis
> wrote:
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>> Dan Book wrote on 09.06.2015 22:01:
>> > This has also been a problem for several releases with the akmods from
>> > rpmfusion.
>>
>> There was always a problem; there where ju
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 2:12 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis
wrote:
> Dan Book wrote on 09.06.2015 22:01:
> > This has also been a problem for several releases with the akmods from
> > rpmfusion.
>
> There was always a problem; there where just less people running into
> it, because yum/dnf installed "kern
Dan Book wrote on 09.06.2015 22:01:
> This has also been a problem for several releases with the akmods from
> rpmfusion.
There was always a problem; there where just less people running into
it, because yum/dnf installed "kernel-devel" most of the time, which
matched the kernel that was running o
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 4:43 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
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> Am 09.06.2015 um 22:38 schrieb Dan Book:
>>
>> That's great, for people who already know what to do. The problem is for
>> people who try to install dkms or akmods and then it doesn't work. There
>> are plenty of people who use dkms or akm
Am 09.06.2015 um 22:38 schrieb Dan Book:
That's great, for people who already know what to do. The problem is for
people who try to install dkms or akmods and then it doesn't work. There
are plenty of people who use dkms or akmods modules but don't compile
anything themselves (and those people
That's great, for people who already know what to do. The problem is for
people who try to install dkms or akmods and then it doesn't work. There
are plenty of people who use dkms or akmods modules but don't compile
anything themselves (and those people are less likely to understand the
kernel-deve
Am 09.06.2015 um 22:01 schrieb Dan Book:
This has also been a problem for several releases with the akmods from
rpmfusion. I think the more "correct" solution (read to the end) would
be to somehow prioritize the kernel-devel package (possibly multiple)
that matches the installed kernel(s). kerne
This has also been a problem for several releases with the akmods from
rpmfusion. I think the more "correct" solution (read to the end) would be
to somehow prioritize the kernel-devel package (possibly multiple) that
matches the installed kernel(s). kernel-debug-devel is never the "correct"
choice
On 09.06.2015 21:04, Neal Gompa wrote:
> I've noticed that when dkms is installed, it's not grabbing the right
> kernel-devel package as a dependency.
Because that's not possible with ordinary dependencies (might be
possible with soft dependencies [Suggests, Enhances etc]) unless we
change someth
Hey all,
I've noticed that when dkms is installed, it's not grabbing the right
kernel-devel package as a dependency. Instead, it grabs
kernel-debug-devel. This occurs on Fedora 21 and 22, and I'm not sure
why. If I install kernel-devel first, everything is fine. Otherwise,
it grabs the wrong kerne
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