Re: DKMS is not installing the right kernel-devel package

2015-06-15 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:01 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 4:28 AM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 7:24 AM, Neal Gompa wrote: > What about some kind of virtual provides defined in repos/rpm/somewher

Re: DKMS is not installing the right kernel-devel package

2015-06-15 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:01 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 4:28 AM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: >>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 7:24 AM, Neal Gompa wrote: >>> > What about some kind of virtual provides defined in repos/rpm/somewhere >>> > that >>> > would automatically grab the kernel-d

Re: DKMS is not installing the right kernel-devel package

2015-06-15 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 4:28 AM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 7:24 AM, Neal Gompa wrote: >> > What about some kind of virtual provides defined in repos/rpm/somewhere >> > that >> > would automatically grab the kernel-devel package associated with the exact >> > kernel that is

Re: DKMS is not installing the right kernel-devel package

2015-06-15 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 4:28 AM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 7:24 AM, Neal Gompa wrote: >> > What about some kind of virtual provides defined in repos/rpm/somewhere >> > that >> > would automatically grab the kernel-devel package associated with the exact >> > kernel that is

Re: DKMS is not installing the right kernel-devel package

2015-06-15 Thread Miloslav Trmač
> On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 7:24 AM, Neal Gompa wrote: > > What about some kind of virtual provides defined in repos/rpm/somewhere that > > would automatically grab the kernel-devel package associated with the exact > > kernel that is running at the time yum/dnf is installing a program that > > depe

Re: Can soft dependencies help to get the proper kernel-devel packages? (Was: Soft- Re: DKMS is not installing the right kernel-devel package)

2015-06-12 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 06/12/2015 03:23 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: >> >> On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 9:18 AM, Ralf Corsepius >> wrote: >>> >>> On 06/12/2015 02:48 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: >>> Soft/weak dependencies are allowed, according to FESCo >>> >>> >>> It doesn

Re: Can soft dependencies help to get the proper kernel-devel packages? (Was: Soft- Re: DKMS is not installing the right kernel-devel package)

2015-06-12 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 06/12/2015 03:23 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 9:18 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 06/12/2015 02:48 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: Soft/weak dependencies are allowed, according to FESCo It doesn't matter much what FESCO says of believes in this case. ATM, neither is the technical i

Re: Can soft dependencies help to get the proper kernel-devel packages? (Was: Soft- Re: DKMS is not installing the right kernel-devel package)

2015-06-12 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 9:18 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 06/12/2015 02:48 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: > >> Soft/weak dependencies are allowed, according to FESCo > > It doesn't matter much what FESCO says of believes in this case. > > ATM, neither is the technical infrastructure is in place (it is ev

Re: Can soft dependencies help to get the proper kernel-devel packages? (Was: Soft- Re: DKMS is not installing the right kernel-devel package)

2015-06-12 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 06/12/2015 02:48 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: ​Soft/weak dependencies are allowed, according to FESCo It doesn't matter much what FESCO says of believes in this case. ATM, neither is the technical infrastructure is in place (it is evolving) nor are impact/consequences clear not are the prototypic

Re: Can soft dependencies help to get the proper kernel-devel packages? (Was: Soft- Re: DKMS is not installing the right kernel-devel package)

2015-06-12 Thread Kalev Lember
On 06/12/2015 02:40 PM, Radek Holy wrote: AFAIK, it is discussed these days whether weak dependencies can be used to express package preferences: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/WeakDependencies IIRC, there were some concerns but I don't remember what was the conclusion. The OR s

Re: Can soft dependencies help to get the proper kernel-devel packages? (Was: Soft- Re: DKMS is not installing the right kernel-devel package)

2015-06-12 Thread Radek Holy
nt discussions related to Fedora" < > > > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > > > > > Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 2:19:10 PM > > > > Subject: Can soft dependencies help to get the proper kernel-devel > > > packages? (Was: Soft- Re: DKMS is not in

Re: Can soft dependencies help to get the proper kernel-devel packages? (Was: Soft- Re: DKMS is not installing the right kernel-devel package)

2015-06-12 Thread Neal Gompa
:19:10 PM > > Subject: Can soft dependencies help to get the proper kernel-devel > packages? (Was: Soft- Re: DKMS is not installing > > the right kernel-devel package) > > > > Josh Boyer wrote on 12.06.2015 13:55: > > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 7:24 AM, Neal Gomp

Re: Can soft dependencies help to get the proper kernel-devel packages? (Was: Soft- Re: DKMS is not installing the right kernel-devel package)

2015-06-12 Thread Radek Holy
- Original Message - > From: "Thorsten Leemhuis" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 2:19:10 PM > Subject: Can soft dependencies help to get the proper kernel-devel packages? > (Was: Soft- Re: DKM

Can soft dependencies help to get the proper kernel-devel packages? (Was: Soft- Re: DKMS is not installing the right kernel-devel package)

2015-06-12 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Josh Boyer wrote on 12.06.2015 13:55: > On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 7:24 AM, Neal Gompa wrote: > [...] > As I said, there are no great solutions here. A "works most of the time"-solution would be: Install kernel-devel by default. But I'm not seriously suggesting that, because I fully agree: It's not

Re: DKMS is not installing the right kernel-devel package

2015-06-12 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 7:24 AM, Neal Gompa wrote: > What about some kind of virtual provides defined in repos/rpm/somewhere that > would automatically grab the kernel-devel package associated with the exact > kernel that is running at the time yum/dnf is installing a program that > depends on it?

Re: DKMS is not installing the right kernel-devel package

2015-06-12 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 8:44 AM, Dan Book wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 2:12 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis > wrote: > >> Dan Book wrote on 09.06.2015 22:01: >> > This has also been a problem for several releases with the akmods from >> > rpmfusion. >> >> There was always a problem; there where ju

Re: DKMS is not installing the right kernel-devel package

2015-06-10 Thread Dan Book
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 2:12 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > Dan Book wrote on 09.06.2015 22:01: > > This has also been a problem for several releases with the akmods from > > rpmfusion. > > There was always a problem; there where just less people running into > it, because yum/dnf installed "kern

Re: DKMS is not installing the right kernel-devel package

2015-06-09 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Dan Book wrote on 09.06.2015 22:01: > This has also been a problem for several releases with the akmods from > rpmfusion. There was always a problem; there where just less people running into it, because yum/dnf installed "kernel-devel" most of the time, which matched the kernel that was running o

Re: DKMS is not installing the right kernel-devel package

2015-06-09 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 4:43 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 09.06.2015 um 22:38 schrieb Dan Book: >> >> That's great, for people who already know what to do. The problem is for >> people who try to install dkms or akmods and then it doesn't work. There >> are plenty of people who use dkms or akm

Re: DKMS is not installing the right kernel-devel package

2015-06-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 09.06.2015 um 22:38 schrieb Dan Book: That's great, for people who already know what to do. The problem is for people who try to install dkms or akmods and then it doesn't work. There are plenty of people who use dkms or akmods modules but don't compile anything themselves (and those people

Re: DKMS is not installing the right kernel-devel package

2015-06-09 Thread Dan Book
That's great, for people who already know what to do. The problem is for people who try to install dkms or akmods and then it doesn't work. There are plenty of people who use dkms or akmods modules but don't compile anything themselves (and those people are less likely to understand the kernel-deve

Re: DKMS is not installing the right kernel-devel package

2015-06-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 09.06.2015 um 22:01 schrieb Dan Book: This has also been a problem for several releases with the akmods from rpmfusion. I think the more "correct" solution (read to the end) would be to somehow prioritize the kernel-devel package (possibly multiple) that matches the installed kernel(s). kerne

Re: DKMS is not installing the right kernel-devel package

2015-06-09 Thread Dan Book
This has also been a problem for several releases with the akmods from rpmfusion. I think the more "correct" solution (read to the end) would be to somehow prioritize the kernel-devel package (possibly multiple) that matches the installed kernel(s). kernel-debug-devel is never the "correct" choice

Re: DKMS is not installing the right kernel-devel package

2015-06-09 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
On 09.06.2015 21:04, Neal Gompa wrote: > I've noticed that when dkms is installed, it's not grabbing the right > kernel-devel package as a dependency. Because that's not possible with ordinary dependencies (might be possible with soft dependencies [Suggests, Enhances etc]) unless we change someth

DKMS is not installing the right kernel-devel package

2015-06-09 Thread Neal Gompa
Hey all, I've noticed that when dkms is installed, it's not grabbing the right kernel-devel package as a dependency. Instead, it grabs kernel-debug-devel. This occurs on Fedora 21 and 22, and I'm not sure why. If I install kernel-devel first, everything is fine. Otherwise, it grabs the wrong kerne