Re: Comaintainer(s) wanted for qt5-qtwebengine

2022-07-20 Thread Demi Marie Obenour
On 7/20/22 15:56, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Wed, Jul 20 2022 at 04:29:40 PM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel > wrote: >> That is not a reasonable solution. Those applications need embedded >> HTML in >> the UI, not a separate browser window. And it does not help at all if >> the >> browser tha

Re: Comaintainer(s) wanted for qt5-qtwebengine

2022-07-20 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Michael Catanzaro wrote: > I presume it uses a sandboxed multiprocess architecture anyway, like > upstream Chromium. Is it not true? > > If so, it's surely one of the most secure packages we have in Fedora. > Of course, that's no good excuse to fall behind on security updates. > But I have high con

Re: Comaintainer(s) wanted for qt5-qtwebengine

2022-07-20 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, Jul 20 2022 at 09:00:28 PM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: (The fact that these fixes are not included in the betas, but only dropped into the stable release, also makes the beta testing quite pointless and compromises the stability of the stable releases.) A little feedback o

Re: Comaintainer(s) wanted for qt5-qtwebengine

2022-07-20 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, Jul 20 2022 at 04:29:40 PM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: That is not a reasonable solution. Those applications need embedded HTML in the UI, not a separate browser window. And it does not help at all if the browser that is shelled out to itself uses QtWebEngine. I presume it u

Re: Comaintainer(s) wanted for qt5-qtwebengine

2022-07-20 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > On 20/07/2022 16:50, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: >> There is a lag, but it is less than the average lag we add in Fedora. >> >> E.g., the security fixes from Chromium 100 were backported to >> qtwebengine- chromium git after 1 month, and the release was tagged 2

Re: Comaintainer(s) wanted for qt5-qtwebengine

2022-07-20 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 20/07/2022 16:50, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: There is a lag, but it is less than the average lag we add in Fedora. E.g., the security fixes from Chromium 100 were backported to qtwebengine- chromium git after 1 month, and the release was tagged 2 weeks later. This is not about the Fedora

Re: Comaintainer(s) wanted for qt5-qtwebengine

2022-07-20 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
PS: Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > (*) These features require the KDE KF5/Plasma integration plugin, i.e., > the optional falkon-kde subpackage. Everything else is built-in into > Falkon and/or Qt. The gopher:// example also requires the kio_gopher package, which is not installed by default for

Re: Comaintainer(s) wanted for qt5-qtwebengine

2022-07-20 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > What advantage does Falkon have over upstream Chromium? Serious question. Better desktop integration. (Especially KDE Plasma integration, but there is also a gnome-keyring plugin available. The KF5/Plasma integration plugin uses KWallet, of course, but also does othe

Re: Comaintainer(s) wanted for qt5-qtwebengine

2022-07-20 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 17:49:05 +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Hi Ankur, Hi Kevin, > > If you want to go straight for 5.15.10, then the first step would be to get > 5.15.10 into Rawhide, and then go through the same steps above to push > 5.15.10 to the stable releases. Thanks for that. I

Re: Comaintainer(s) wanted for qt5-qtwebengine

2022-07-20 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Hi Ankur, Ankur Sinha wrote: > On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 03:58:41 +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: >> So, since all current maintainers of qt5-qtwebengine, including me, are >> failing badly at keeping the package up to date with security fixes, this >> is an urgent plea for help. The current situa

Re: Comaintainer(s) wanted for qt5-qtwebengine

2022-07-20 Thread Demi Marie Obenour
On 7/20/22 10:29, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Demi Marie Obenour wrote: >> I can’t help with maintenance, but I honestly wonder if some of >> these programs could be modified to shell out to a browser subprocess. > > That is not a reasonable solution. Those applications need embedded HTML in

Re: Comaintainer(s) wanted for qt5-qtwebengine

2022-07-20 Thread Ankur Sinha
Hi Kevin, On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 03:58:41 +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > So, since all current maintainers of qt5-qtwebengine, including me, are > failing badly at keeping the package up to date with security fixes, this is > an urgent plea for help. The current situation is not acceptable

Re: Comaintainer(s) wanted for qt5-qtwebengine

2022-07-20 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > QtWebEngine is an extremely vulnerable thing due to a major lag after > WebKit/Blink security patches. There is a lag, but it is less than the average lag we add in Fedora. E.g., the security fixes from Chromium 100 were backported to qtwebengine- chromium git af

Re: Comaintainer(s) wanted for qt5-qtwebengine

2022-07-20 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > I can’t help with maintenance, but I honestly wonder if some of > these programs could be modified to shell out to a browser subprocess. That is not a reasonable solution. Those applications need embedded HTML in the UI, not a separate browser window. And it does not h

Re: Comaintainer(s) wanted for qt5-qtwebengine

2022-07-20 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 20/07/2022 11:57, Fabio Valentini wrote: Just to clarify, epiphany and other GTK- and WebKit-based browsers don't use QtWebEngine, but WebKitGTK. Oops, my mistake. Ofc only KDE/Qt apps is using QtWebEngine for rendering HTML. As far as I know, it doesn't suffer from the same support / la

Re: Comaintainer(s) wanted for qt5-qtwebengine

2022-07-20 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 11:04 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > On 20/07/2022 08:55, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > > I also wonder if some features of QtWebEngine, such as the V8 JIT > > compiler or even scripting as a whole, ought to be proactively > > disabled. > > QtWebEngine is an extremely

Re: Comaintainer(s) wanted for qt5-qtwebengine

2022-07-20 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 20/07/2022 08:55, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: I also wonder if some features of QtWebEngine, such as the V8 JIT compiler or even scripting as a whole, ought to be proactively disabled. QtWebEngine is an extremely vulnerable thing due to a major lag after WebKit/Blink security patches. I even

Re: Comaintainer(s) wanted for qt5-qtwebengine

2022-07-19 Thread Demi Marie Obenour
On 7/19/22 21:58, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Hi, > > QtWebEngine is used as the HTML component for many Qt applications, > including large parts of the KDE software universe. It is used by web > browsers such as Falkon, but also, e.g., by KMail/Kontact. > > The version that is currently (s

Comaintainer(s) wanted for qt5-qtwebengine

2022-07-19 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Hi, QtWebEngine is used as the HTML component for many Qt applications, including large parts of the KDE software universe. It is used by web browsers such as Falkon, but also, e.g., by KMail/Kontact. The version that is currently (still) used the most is the Qt 5 version. There is also a Qt 6