Re: Btrfs by default status updates, 2020-07-26

2020-07-28 Thread Tomasz Kłoczko
On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 13:22, Lennart Poettering wrote: [..] > > Looks like all other pseudo filesystems are mounted over .mount units > with > > probably one exception .. binfmt_misc. > > Probably .. because as I've pointed there are two units for that fs. > > Only binfmt_misc is typically a ke

Re: Btrfs by default status updates, 2020-07-26

2020-07-28 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Di, 28.07.20 13:02, Tomasz Kłoczko (kloczko.tom...@gmail.com) wrote: > So .. someone knows why it cannot be mounted on "mount -a" when entry > for binfmt_misc would be in fstab or even over .mount unit? You can do that, of course, but binfmt_misc is a .ko we don't want to load unless needed.

Re: Btrfs by default status updates, 2020-07-26

2020-07-28 Thread Tomasz Kłoczko
On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 11:11, Lennart Poettering wrote: [..] > > Why is it still automonter hardcoded into the kernel even if it is > > completely useless on a typical single workstation? > > binfmt_misc is mounted with that by default. > > And systemd will mount the ESP and the boot loader parti

Re: systemd autofs support (Was: Re: Btrfs by default status updates, 2020-07-26)

2020-07-28 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mo, 27.07.20 20:27, Tomasz Kłoczko (kloczko.tom...@gmail.com) wrote: > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 20:05, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > [..] > > > > So (a bit off-topic) what was wrong with autofs as a separate small > > process > > > started only when it was necessary? Do you remember tha

Re: Btrfs by default status updates, 2020-07-26

2020-07-28 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mo, 27.07.20 19:20, Tomasz Kłoczko (kloczko.tom...@gmail.com) wrote: > Really? > (my jaw is on the floor crashed into the pieces) > I must honestly confess that in the meantime systemd swallowed autofs as > well! It didn't. It supports a small subset of the whole autofs logic, in order to make

Re: Btrfs by default status updates, 2020-07-26

2020-07-28 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mo, 27.07.20 18:24, Tomasz Kłoczko (kloczko.tom...@gmail.com) wrote: > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 18:00, Chris Murphy wrote: > [..] > > > + btrfs driver is now built-in to the kernel, rather than as a module > > > > Classic .. from frying pan to open fire. > > Why the heck dist kernel cannot be wi

Re: systemd autofs support (Was: Re: Btrfs by default status updates, 2020-07-26)

2020-07-27 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 08:27:24PM +0100, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 20:05, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > [..] > > > > So (a bit off-topic) what was wrong with autofs as a separate small > > process > > > started only when it was necessary? Do you remember that? > > >

systemd autofs support (Was: Re: Btrfs by default status updates, 2020-07-26)

2020-07-27 Thread Tomasz Kłoczko
On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 20:05, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: [..] > > So (a bit off-topic) what was wrong with autofs as a separate small > process > > started only when it was necessary? Do you remember that? > > Having automount support directly in pid1 allows automounts to be part > of the

Re: Btrfs by default status updates, 2020-07-26

2020-07-27 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 07:20:16PM +0100, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 18:35, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > [..] > > > > Why the heck dist kernel cannot be without ANY fs support? I've been > > using > > > such a kernel (sic!) 15y ago !!! > > > > Tomasz, > > take a step

Re: Btrfs by default status updates, 2020-07-26

2020-07-27 Thread Tomasz Kłoczko
On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 18:35, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: [..] > > Why the heck dist kernel cannot be without ANY fs support? I've been > using > > such a kernel (sic!) 15y ago !!! > > Tomasz, > take a step back... This is just a kernel config change, no reason to > get angry. > > > Why is

Re: Btrfs by default status updates, 2020-07-26

2020-07-27 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 06:24:06PM +0100, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 18:00, Chris Murphy wrote: > [..] > > > + btrfs driver is now built-in to the kernel, rather than as a module > > > > Classic .. from frying pan to open fire. > > Why the heck dist kernel cannot be without

Re: Btrfs by default status updates, 2020-07-26

2020-07-27 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 1:24 PM Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 18:00, Chris Murphy wrote: > [..] >> >> + btrfs driver is now built-in to the kernel, rather than as a module > > > Classic .. from frying pan to open fire. > > Why the heck dist kernel cannot be without ANY fs suppo

Re: Btrfs by default status updates, 2020-07-26

2020-07-27 Thread Tomasz Kłoczko
On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 18:00, Chris Murphy wrote: [..] > + btrfs driver is now built-in to the kernel, rather than as a module > Classic .. from frying pan to open fire. Why the heck dist kernel cannot be without ANY fs support? I've been using such a kernel (sic!) 15y ago !!! Why is it still a

Btrfs by default status updates, 2020-07-26

2020-07-27 Thread Chris Murphy
Original is here: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/desk...@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/54RIGULB4B2JCOPVRABSLFWNWEJXKDVA/ Future updates will be cross-posted. --- (This first update is big. Subsequent updates should be smaller.) Changes: + Anaconda defaults to Btrfs for aut