Re: Blocker Bug Voting and Conversation

2012-12-05 Thread Kamil Paral
> Is it the meeting itself which you find helpful or the discussion and > information during the review meetings? Could you see asynchronous > conversation (exact method TBD) being as useful? The discussion is very helpful. It can be asynchronous, of course. It won't be as efficient, but that's a

Re: Blocker Bug Voting and Conversation

2012-12-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 12:10 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Dec 4, 2012, at 11:51 AM, Tim Flink wrote: > > > > > I think the best evidence of this is the number of bugs which get > > proposed as blockers or NTH without any justification of why or citing > > of any release criterion that might be

Re: Blocker Bug Voting and Conversation

2012-12-04 Thread Tim Flink
On Tue, 4 Dec 2012 08:22:12 -0500 (EST) Kamil Paral wrote: > > Affected Voters: > > - Do you vote on blocker status in bug comments? > > If necessary, but I don't like it much. In my experience the > discussion in the meeting is often very helpful to understand the > nature of the bug, and it c

Re: Blocker Bug Voting and Conversation

2012-12-04 Thread Chris Murphy
On Dec 4, 2012, at 11:51 AM, Tim Flink wrote: > > I think the best evidence of this is the number of bugs which get > proposed as blockers or NTH without any justification of why or citing > of any release criterion that might be violated. I take that as "the > process isn't being communicated

Re: Blocker Bug Voting and Conversation

2012-12-04 Thread Tim Flink
On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 19:34:12 -0800 Adam Williamson wrote: > > Anyhow, helpful thoughts would be appreciated. Hopefully we can > > improve the process so that it's less painful for everyone and > > maybe even more useful (at the very least, less difficult to > > understand). > > I don't want to

Re: Blocker Bug Voting and Conversation

2012-12-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 08:22 -0500, Kamil Paral wrote: > > Affected Voters: > > - Do you vote on blocker status in bug comments? > > If necessary, but I don't like it much. In my experience the > discussion in the meeting is often very helpful to understand the > nature of the bug, and it can shif

Re: Blocker Bug Voting and Conversation

2012-12-04 Thread Kamil Paral
> Affected Voters: > - Do you vote on blocker status in bug comments? If necessary, but I don't like it much. In my experience the discussion in the meeting is often very helpful to understand the nature of the bug, and it can shift my opinion substantially. Also I don't like spamming bugzilla

Re: Blocker Bug Voting and Conversation

2012-12-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2012-12-03 at 15:19 -0700, Tim Flink wrote: > I don't think that anyone is a huge fan of the current blocker bug > process. I realize that the people most affected by the process are > really busy right now but I also think that it wouldn't be a bad thing > to start a conversation while the

Blocker Bug Voting and Conversation

2012-12-03 Thread Tim Flink
I don't think that anyone is a huge fan of the current blocker bug process. I realize that the people most affected by the process are really busy right now but I also think that it wouldn't be a bad thing to start a conversation while the process is active and at its most painful. I don't really w