Re: BerkeleyDB 6 symbol versioning and associated problems

2014-07-22 Thread Petr Spacek
On 22.7.2014 17:16, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: On 22 July 2014 09:05, Florian Weimer wrote: On 07/22/2014 04:08 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: The current plan is to not ship v6 in F21, and there are no agreed plans to ship it in any future release either. See https://fedorahosted.org/ fesco/ti

Re: BerkeleyDB 6 symbol versioning and associated problems

2014-07-22 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 22 July 2014 09:05, Florian Weimer wrote: > On 07/22/2014 04:08 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > >> The current plan is to not ship v6 in F21, and there are no agreed plans >> to ship it in any future release either. See https://fedorahosted.org/ >> fesco/ticket/1291 for the full history of the de

Re: BerkeleyDB 6 symbol versioning and associated problems

2014-07-22 Thread Florian Weimer
On 07/22/2014 04:08 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: The current plan is to not ship v6 in F21, and there are no agreed plans to ship it in any future release either. See https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1291 for the full history of the debate. Yet Oracle advertises Fedora's use of Berkeley DB

Re: BerkeleyDB 6 symbol versioning and associated problems

2014-07-22 Thread Miloslav Trmač
- Original Message - > On Wed, May 07, 2014 at 03:19:42PM +0200, Jan Staněk wrote: > > One of the planned parts of the F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6 [1] > > is the introduction of downstream symbol versioning of both versions of > > the libraries (libdb with v6 and libdb5 with v5). T

Re: BerkeleyDB 6 symbol versioning and associated problems

2014-07-21 Thread Joe Orton
On Wed, May 07, 2014 at 03:19:42PM +0200, Jan Staněk wrote: > One of the planned parts of the F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6 [1] > is the introduction of downstream symbol versioning of both versions of > the libraries (libdb with v6 and libdb5 with v5). This part is planned > in order to not

Re: BerkeleyDB 6 symbol versioning and associated problems

2014-05-09 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Honza Horak said: > We should provide some libdb officially supported by upstream, which > won't be the case for libdb-5 forever. Is there a list yet of the packages using libdb-5 that have a license issue with libdb-6? If there are many, there may be community interest in fork

Re: BerkeleyDB 6 symbol versioning and associated problems

2014-05-09 Thread Honza Horak
On 05/07/2014 10:21 PM, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Adam Jackson said: I don't know if I have a good suggestion here, none of the alternatives sound appealing. Is there a compelling reason to upgrade to BDB-6 (other than 6 > 5)? The license change really seems to be a PITA, since it

Re: BerkeleyDB 6 symbol versioning and associated problems

2014-05-08 Thread Michael Stahl
On 07/05/14 15:39, Joe Orton wrote: > On Wed, May 07, 2014 at 03:19:42PM +0200, Jan Staněk wrote: >> One of the planned parts of the F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6 [1] >> is the introduction of downstream symbol versioning of both versions of >> the libraries (libdb with v6 and libdb5 with v5

Re: BerkeleyDB 6 symbol versioning and associated problems

2014-05-07 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Adam Jackson said: > I don't know if I have a good suggestion here, none of the alternatives > sound appealing. Is there a compelling reason to upgrade to BDB-6 (other than 6 > 5)? The license change really seems to be a PITA, since it is incompatible with the licenses of softwa

Re: BerkeleyDB 6 symbol versioning and associated problems

2014-05-07 Thread Adam Jackson
On Wed, 2014-05-07 at 15:19 +0200, Jan Staněk wrote: > One of the planned parts of the F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6 [1] > is the introduction of downstream symbol versioning of both versions of > the libraries (libdb with v6 and libdb5 with v5). This part is planned > in order to not introd

Re: BerkeleyDB 6 symbol versioning and associated problems

2014-05-07 Thread Miloslav Trmač
Hello, 2014-05-07 15:19 GMT+02:00 Jan Staněk : > In short, if we introduce the downstream versioning, we will ship > library with ABI incompatible with upstream ABI. If we won't, > applications with modules/plugins (ie. Apache with mod_perl) that each > use different version of the library may bre

Re: BerkeleyDB 6 symbol versioning and associated problems

2014-05-07 Thread Joe Orton
On Wed, May 07, 2014 at 03:19:42PM +0200, Jan Staněk wrote: > One of the planned parts of the F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6 [1] > is the introduction of downstream symbol versioning of both versions of > the libraries (libdb with v6 and libdb5 with v5). This part is planned > in order to not

Re: BerkeleyDB 6 symbol versioning and associated problems

2014-05-07 Thread Florian Weimer
On 05/07/2014 03:19 PM, Jan Staněk wrote: One of the planned parts of the F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6 [1] is the introduction of downstream symbol versioning of both versions of the libraries (libdb with v6 and libdb5 with v5). This part is planned in order to not introduce bugs similar

BerkeleyDB 6 symbol versioning and associated problems

2014-05-07 Thread Jan Staněk
One of the planned parts of the F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6 [1] is the introduction of downstream symbol versioning of both versions of the libraries (libdb with v6 and libdb5 with v5). This part is planned in order to not introduce bugs similar to [2]. However, if we introduce downstream