Hi,
I sent a request to docs ml but I did not receive any response. I also
do not see any related stuff in documentation
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Beats
To whom should I go with this? (I'd do it myself if I only knew
English well and I would be Fedora dev :))
W dniu 22 kwietnia 2011 19:
On 04/29/2011 11:05 AM, mike cloaked wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 8:14 AM, John Keller wrote:
>
>> Right now the only options, to my knowledge, are to use the netinst
>> (hybrid image) or use some special tool/process to convert the DVD ISO
>> into a bootable USB key. The former can be flaky
On 04/29/2011 05:43 AM, Mathieu Bridon wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-04-29 at 02:29 -0700, Ryan Rix wrote:
>> On Tue 26 April 2011 21:58:08 Mathieu Bridon wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2011-04-26 at 15:43 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
it is better to have the package (even if it's poorly
maintained) than to no
On Fri, 2011-04-29 at 02:29 -0700, Ryan Rix wrote:
> On Tue 26 April 2011 21:58:08 Mathieu Bridon wrote:
> > On Tue, 2011-04-26 at 15:43 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > > it is better to have the package (even if it's poorly
> > > maintained) than to not have it at all!
> >
> > I think that's where
On Tue 26 April 2011 21:58:08 Mathieu Bridon wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-04-26 at 15:43 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > it is better to have the package (even if it's poorly
> > maintained) than to not have it at all!
>
> I think that's where some of us disagree with you.
>
> Having lots of parts of poo
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 8:14 AM, John Keller wrote:
> Right now the only options, to my knowledge, are to use the netinst
> (hybrid image) or use some special tool/process to convert the DVD ISO
> into a bootable USB key. The former can be flaky (as you mention) and
> the latter is cumbersome (an
On 04/26/2011 06:44 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-04-22 at 07:55 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>
>> I decided to reinstall using netinstall.iso.
>
> Just a general note here: during pre-release time netinstall is always
> more likely to have trouble than media install. We test installa
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 19:11:16 +0200, KK wrote:
> > Will you resurrect the packages when their package maintainer retires
> > them after F-15 gold despite of you having fixed them to build?
>
> Retiring the packages is evil in the first place, and IMHO we're making it
> way too easy. Packages shou
On 04/26/2011 01:11 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Retiring the packages is evil in the first place, and IMHO we're making it
> way too easy. Packages should only get retired if they are replaced by
> something different with equivalent or superior functionality or if they
> really cannot be made to wo
On Fri, 2011-04-22 at 07:55 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> Initially (1st try), I tried a "customized package set". I was warned
> about a long series of missing deps. The install however proceeded and
> ended with anaconda raising before-mentioned error.
>
> Then, (2nd try) I tried a "default
On Fri, 2011-04-22 at 07:55 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> I decided to reinstall using netinstall.iso.
Just a general note here: during pre-release time netinstall is always
more likely to have trouble than media install. We test installation of
the pre-release media (Alpha, Beta) quite heavily.
Michael Schwendt wrote:
> Will you resurrect the packages when their package maintainer retires
> them after F-15 gold despite of you having fixed them to build?
Retiring the packages is evil in the first place, and IMHO we're making it
way too easy. Packages should only get retired if they are r
On Tue, 2011-04-26 at 16:21 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Mathieu Bridon wrote:
> > I think that's where some of us disagree with you.
> >
> > Having lots of parts of poor quality doesn't raise the global quality of
> > Fedora. Having only a few parts, each of excellent quality, does.
>
> If you r
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 15:26:40 +0200, KK wrote:
> > Arbitrary provenpackagers spending time on rebuilding semi-orphaned
> > packages (or even incorrectly retired packages) isn't helpful.
>
> Actually, IMHO it is.
Will you resurrect the packages when their package maintainer retires
them after F-15
Mathieu Bridon wrote:
> I think that's where some of us disagree with you.
>
> Having lots of parts of poor quality doesn't raise the global quality of
> Fedora. Having only a few parts, each of excellent quality, does.
If you really NEED a certain piece of software (for a job, for a hobby or
fo
On Tue, 2011-04-26 at 15:43 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> it is better to have the package (even if it's poorly
> maintained) than to not have it at all!
I think that's where some of us disagree with you.
Having lots of parts of poor quality doesn't raise the global quality of
Fedora. Having only
Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> How do you (as provenpackager) know whats broken? Do you look over bug
> reports for packages you fix? Do you talk with upstream and check for
> bugs there or new releases? Do you use the package day to day and fix
> or report issues you run into?
>
> Or do you just fix it so
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 15:26:40 +0200
Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > Arbitrary provenpackagers spending time on rebuilding semi-orphaned
> > packages (or even incorrectly retired packages) isn't helpful.
>
> Actually, IMHO it is. We should work together as a community and get
> r
Michael Schwendt wrote:
> Arbitrary provenpackagers spending time on rebuilding semi-orphaned
> packages (or even incorrectly retired packages) isn't helpful.
Actually, IMHO it is. We should work together as a community and get rid of
this idea that packages are owned by one person (or a short li
On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 15:33:23 -0400, BN wrote:
> > > We consider broken deps within the set of packages included in the
> > > released images to block the release, but there are none of those in
> > > Beta. Broken deps outside the package set that gets on images aren't
> > > really as important.
>
Michael Schwendt (mschwe...@gmail.com) said:
> > We consider broken deps within the set of packages included in the
> > released images to block the release, but there are none of those in
> > Beta. Broken deps outside the package set that gets on images aren't
> > really as important.
>
> Sure,
On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 12:35:43 -0700, AW wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-04-21 at 15:51 +0200, Marcela Mašláňová wrote:
>
> > Branched report with number of missing requires goes on fedora-devel and
> > to maintainers of those packages, so they must be aware of it. The list
> > is shorter than it was before b
On 04/21/2011 09:35 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-04-21 at 15:51 +0200, Marcela Mašláňová wrote:
>> On 04/21/2011 03:29 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>>> On 04/21/2011 05:36 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
I presume, I am supposed to love the broken deps, these anaconda dumps
and t
On 04/21/2011 03:29 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 04/21/2011 05:36 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>>
>> I presume, I am supposed to love the broken deps, these anaconda dumps
>> and this silly Win95-ish "Oh no!,..." screens of death?
>>
>> All three happened to me, when trying this Beta, yesterday ;)
>
On Thu, 2011-04-21 at 14:06 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On 04/19/2011 04:50 PM, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
> > The clock is ticking. The days are counting down. The release of
> > Fedora 15, codenamed "Lovelock," is scheduled for release in late
> > May. Fedora is the leading edge, free and open sour
On Thu, 2011-04-21 at 15:51 +0200, Marcela Mašláňová wrote:
> On 04/21/2011 03:29 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > On 04/21/2011 05:36 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> >>
> >> I presume, I am supposed to love the broken deps, these anaconda dumps
> >> and this silly Win95-ish "Oh no!,..." screens of death
On 04/21/2011 07:21 PM, Marcela Mašláňová wrote:
> Branched report with number of missing requires goes on fedora-devel and
> to maintainers of those packages, so they must be aware of it. The list
> is shorter than it was before beta but there's still lot of packages. Do
> we want to release it as
On 04/21/2011 03:29 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 04/21/2011 05:36 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>>
>> I presume, I am supposed to love the broken deps, these anaconda dumps
>> and this silly Win95-ish "Oh no!,..." screens of death?
>>
>> All three happened to me, when trying this Beta, yesterday ;)
On 04/21/2011 11:04 AM, Jens Petersen wrote:
>> Coders have lots of new development tools to try out, including:
>> * Updates to popular languages. Python 3.2, Rails 3.0.3, and
>> OCaml 3.12 are all included in Fedora 15.
> If we are going to mention OCaml then to be fair
> can we please also menti
On 04/21/2011 05:36 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>
> I presume, I am supposed to love the broken deps, these anaconda dumps
> and this silly Win95-ish "Oh no!,..." screens of death?
>
> All three happened to me, when trying this Beta, yesterday ;)
Filing bug reports is helpful and what one is suppos
On 04/19/2011 04:50 PM, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
> The clock is ticking. The days are counting down. The release of
> Fedora 15, codenamed "Lovelock," is scheduled for release in late
> May. Fedora is the leading edge, free and open source operating
> system that continues to deliver innovative featur
On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 03:42:02AM -0400, Jens Petersen wrote:
> > > * Updates to popular languages. Python 3.2, Rails 3.0.3, and
> > > OCaml 3.12 are all included in Fedora 15.
> >
> > If we are going to mention OCaml then to be fair
> > can we please also mention GHC 7.0.2,
> > which is major ne
> > * Updates to popular languages. Python 3.2, Rails 3.0.3, and
> > OCaml 3.12 are all included in Fedora 15.
>
> If we are going to mention OCaml then to be fair
> can we please also mention GHC 7.0.2,
> which is major new version upgrade since F14?
Ok that is probably me failing to follow the
> Coders have lots of new development tools to try out, including:
> * Updates to popular languages. Python 3.2, Rails 3.0.3, and
> OCaml 3.12 are all included in Fedora 15.
If we are going to mention OCaml then to be fair
can we please also mention GHC 7.0.2,
which is major new version upgrade si
The clock is ticking. The days are counting down. The release of
Fedora 15, codenamed "Lovelock," is scheduled for release in late
May. Fedora is the leading edge, free and open source operating
system that continues to deliver innovative features to users
worldwide, with a new release every si
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