Re: EPEL analyse/observation, some question, PR proposals/questions and more ..

2018-01-22 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 22 January 2018 at 12:21, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: > On 22 January 2018 at 15:53, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > [,,] >> >> > OK so here you just gave me +1 for a). Thx. >> > >> >> No I didn't. It is clear that our versions of English are not syncing >> up so I am not sure how to communicate clear

Re: EPEL analyse/observation, some question, PR proposals/questions and more ..

2018-01-22 Thread Tomasz Kłoczko
On 22 January 2018 at 15:53, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: [,,] > > OK so here you just gave me +1 for a). Thx. > > > > No I didn't. It is clear that our versions of English are not syncing > up so I am not sure how to communicate clearly with you. You think I > am reading in between the lines, but

Re: EPEL analyse/observation, some question, PR proposals/questions and more ..

2018-01-22 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 22 January 2018 at 00:29, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: > On 22 January 2018 at 03:10, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: >> >> On 21 January 2018 at 15:54, Tomasz Kłoczko >> wrote: > > [..] >> >> > 8) Why we have %{centos} %ifings? Theoretically Centos is EL derivate up >> > to >> > ABI level so all this s

Re: EPEL analyse/observation, some question, PR proposals/questions and more ..

2018-01-22 Thread Tomasz Kłoczko
On 22 January 2018 at 12:10, Neal Gompa wrote: <<>> [..] > >> > 8) Why we have %{centos} %ifings? Theoretically Centos is EL derivate > up > >> > to > >> > ABI level so all this should be: > >> > > >> > a) removed > >> > b) replaced by %{el6} and %{el7} (and if it is anything older .. > remove)

Re: EPEL analyse/observation, some question, PR proposals/questions and more ..

2018-01-22 Thread Tomasz Kłoczko
On 22 January 2018 at 03:39, Neal Gompa wrote: [..] > Personally, I'd like it to be easier to make multi-distro spec files > by leveraging the increasing commonality among distributions. It's > already not that bad these days, the main issue is what RPM features > are supported for each target dis

Re: Re: Re: EPEL analyse/observation, some question, PR proposals/questions and more ..

2018-01-22 Thread nicolas . mailhot
- Mail original - De: "Fabio Valentini" Hi, > I'm particularly looking forward to improvements regarding golang. The > automated .spec generation is nice for getting new packages started, but > maintaining those packages currently is a small nightmare in itself due to > brittle scripts

Re: EPEL analyse/observation, some question, PR proposals/questions and more ..

2018-01-22 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 12:29 AM, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: > On 22 January 2018 at 03:10, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: >> >> On 21 January 2018 at 15:54, Tomasz Kłoczko >> wrote: > > [..] >> >> > 8) Why we have %{centos} %ifings? Theoretically Centos is EL derivate up >> > to >> > ABI level so all t

Re: Re: EPEL analyse/observation, some question, PR proposals/questions and more ..

2018-01-22 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Jan 22, 2018 11:32, wrote: - Mail original - De: "Stephen John Smoogen" > They pull in what they want to make it work and could > give a care if it is readable to anyone else. The problem is that past a certain point those become effectively unmaintainable and start dragging Fedora

Re: Re: EPEL analyse/observation, some question, PR proposals/questions and more ..

2018-01-22 Thread nicolas . mailhot
- Mail original - De: "Neal Gompa" > the main issue is what RPM features are supported for each target distribution. Making things less ugly for gracefully degrading would be very nice. :) Well it would be really nice if someone @downstream watched for Fedora packaging guidelines cha

Re: Re: EPEL analyse/observation, some question, PR proposals/questions and more ..

2018-01-22 Thread nicolas . mailhot
- Mail original - De: "Stephen John Smoogen" > They pull in what they want to make it work and could > give a care if it is readable to anyone else. The problem is that past a certain point those become effectively unmaintainable and start dragging Fedora in the EL blackhole instead of

Re: EPEL analyse/observation, some question, PR proposals/questions and more ..

2018-01-22 Thread nicolas . mailhot
Hi, I can get a few hundreds of those disappear if the Go packaging guidelines I posted get accepted Otherwise, they are a symptom of technical debt accumulation in EL, nothing more Regards, -- Nicolas Mailhot ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.f

Re: EPEL analyse/observation, some question, PR proposals/questions and more ..

2018-01-21 Thread Tomasz Kłoczko
On 22 January 2018 at 03:39, Neal Gompa wrote: [..] > > Multi-distro spec files in itself aren't that bad. In my experience, > the things that drag you down are the Debian/Ubuntu and RHEL/SLE > targets. But they eventually catch up. However, the sad reality is, > you can only go so far without imp

Re: EPEL analyse/observation, some question, PR proposals/questions and more ..

2018-01-21 Thread Tomasz Kłoczko
On 22 January 2018 at 03:10, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On 21 January 2018 at 15:54, Tomasz Kłoczko > wrote: > [..] > > 8) Why we have %{centos} %ifings? Theoretically Centos is EL derivate up > to > > ABI level so all this should be: > > > > a) removed > > b) replaced by %{el6} and %{el7} (

Re: EPEL analyse/observation, some question, PR proposals/questions and more ..

2018-01-21 Thread Neal Gompa
On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 10:10 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On 21 January 2018 at 15:54, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: >> As preface some oneliner result: >> > >> 8) Why we have %{centos} %ifings? Theoretically Centos is EL derivate up to >> ABI level so all this should be: >> >> a) removed >> b) rep

Re: EPEL analyse/observation, some question, PR proposals/questions and more ..

2018-01-21 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 21 January 2018 at 15:54, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: > As preface some oneliner result: > > 8) Why we have %{centos} %ifings? Theoretically Centos is EL derivate up to > ABI level so all this should be: > > a) removed > b) replaced by %{el6} and %{el7} (and if it is anything older .. remove) > c) i