Re: Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-20 Thread Tomas Heinrich
On 03/19/2012 03:28 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: On 03/19/2012 10:36 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Daniel J Walsh wrote: We could put the info into systemd-journal. Back when sendmail and logwatch were part of the default install, it would have been nice to have SELinux activity reported in it.

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-19 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 03/20/2012 08:02 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > On 03/19/2012 10:28 AM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: >> Well setroubleshoot-server does write to syslog when it interprets and >> AVC. > > Yes, but those messages are not picked up by logwatch so unless I > manually scan the syslog (which I have to do

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-19 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 03/19/2012 10:28 AM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: Well setroubleshoot-server does write to syslog when it interprets and AVC. Yes, but those messages are not picked up by logwatch so unless I manually scan the syslog (which I have to do for this reason) I would miss them. -- devel mailing list d

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-19 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/19/2012 10:36 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Daniel J Walsh wrote: >> We could put the info into systemd-journal. > > Back when sendmail and logwatch were part of the default install, > it would have been nice to have SELinux activity reported

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-19 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2012/3/19 Michael Cronenworth : > Michał Piotrowski wrote: >> >> Logwatch is great thing and I use it every day. But the problem is if >> you have multiple machines - you need to review a number of emails >> every day. So it seems to me that centralized log system would be >> great feature for larg

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-19 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Michał Piotrowski wrote: Logwatch is great thing and I use it every day. But the problem is if you have multiple machines - you need to review a number of emails every day. So it seems to me that centralized log system would be great feature for large networks. What's the difference between sep

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-19 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2012/3/19 Michael Cronenworth : > Daniel J Walsh wrote: >> >> We could put the info into systemd-journal. > > > Back when sendmail and logwatch were part of the default install, it would > have been nice to have SELinux activity reported in it. I still use logwatch > so it would still be useful for

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-19 Thread Michał Piotrowski
W dniu 19 marca 2012 15:27 użytkownik Daniel J Walsh napisał: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/19/2012 10:16 AM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: >> W dniu 19 marca 2012 15:13 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski >> napisał: >>> 2012/3/19 Daniel J Walsh : >> On 03/17/2012 11:25 PM, Dav

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-19 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Daniel J Walsh wrote: We could put the info into systemd-journal. Back when sendmail and logwatch were part of the default install, it would have been nice to have SELinux activity reported in it. I still use logwatch so it would still be useful for me to see log data there. Unless, of cour

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-19 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/19/2012 10:16 AM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > W dniu 19 marca 2012 15:13 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski > napisał: >> 2012/3/19 Daniel J Walsh : > On 03/17/2012 11:25 PM, Dave Quigley wrote: > On 3/17/2012 7:17 AM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: On 03/

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-19 Thread Michał Piotrowski
W dniu 19 marca 2012 15:13 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski napisał: > 2012/3/19 Daniel J Walsh : >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 03/17/2012 11:25 PM, Dave Quigley wrote: >>> On 3/17/2012 7:17 AM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: On 03/17/2012 05:38 AM, >>> Matej Cepl wrote: >> O

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-19 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2012/3/19 Daniel J Walsh : > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/17/2012 11:25 PM, Dave Quigley wrote: >> On 3/17/2012 7:17 AM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: On 03/17/2012 05:38 AM, >> Matej Cepl wrote: > On 17.3.2012 10:18, Daniel J Walsh wrote: >> Here is the current httpd m

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-19 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/17/2012 11:25 PM, Dave Quigley wrote: > On 3/17/2012 7:17 AM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: On 03/17/2012 05:38 AM, > Matej Cepl wrote: On 17.3.2012 10:18, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > Here is the current httpd man page. > > http://people.fe

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-19 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 15:17:01 +0100, James Antill wrote: > http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/3/html/Reference_Guide/ch-httpd.html#S2-HTTPD-V2-DIFF-RPM > > ...but upstream explicitly requested that we change it. Where is that request? I see more upstream is pushing the "ht

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-19 Thread Muayyad AlSadi
wasn't the topic about having debian's /etc/default/ instead of fedora's /etc/sysconfig/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-18 Thread Matej Cepl
On 18.3.2012 04:25, Dave Quigley wrote: Suggesting setroubleshoot is fine but you need to also tell them how to set it up when they are running without X. One guy told me that setroubleshoot is fine and all but all his machines are headless so he doesn't have X and the nice little applet to notif

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-17 Thread Dave Quigley
On 3/17/2012 7:17 AM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/17/2012 05:38 AM, Matej Cepl wrote: On 17.3.2012 10:18, Daniel J Walsh wrote: Here is the current httpd man page. http://people.fedoraproject.org/~dwalsh/SELinux/httpd_selinux.html OK, in the

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-17 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/17/2012 05:38 AM, Matej Cepl wrote: > On 17.3.2012 10:18, Daniel J Walsh wrote: >> Here is the current httpd man page. >> >> http://people.fedoraproject.org/~dwalsh/SELinux/httpd_selinux.html > >> > OK, in the end it IS a wiki ... > http://wik

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-17 Thread Matej Cepl
On 17.3.2012 10:18, Daniel J Walsh wrote: Here is the current httpd man page. http://people.fedoraproject.org/~dwalsh/SELinux/httpd_selinux.html OK, in the end it IS a wiki ... http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/DistrosDefaultLayout?action=diff&rev1=46&rev2=47 Suggestions for further edits are we

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-17 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/17/2012 03:45 AM, Matej Cepl wrote: > On 16.3.2012 18:49, David Quigley wrote: >> Short of educating web server administrators about SELinux and >> the correct labels for web resources I'm not sure what else can >> be done. You don't want to use

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-17 Thread Matej Cepl
On 16.3.2012 18:49, David Quigley wrote: Short of educating web server administrators about SELinux and the correct labels for web resources I'm not sure what else can be done. You don't want to use restorecond to make sure the directories are labeled properly because you could potentially use an

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-16 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/16/2012 12:47 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2012-03-16 at 09:56 +0100, Matej Cepl wrote: >> On 15.3.2012 09:38, Tomasz Torcz wrote: Why and why just us? >>> >>> Good question, we deviate from upstream default: >>> http://wiki.apache

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-16 Thread David Quigley
On 03/16/2012 04:56, Matej Cepl wrote: On 15.3.2012 09:38, Tomasz Torcz wrote: Why and why just us? Good question, we deviate from upstream default: http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/DistrosDefaultLayout Do we have somebody to make the stupid item 3 go away? # If you're having issues with author

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2012-03-16 at 09:56 +0100, Matej Cepl wrote: > On 15.3.2012 09:38, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > >> Why and why just us? > > > > Good question, we deviate from upstream default: > > http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/DistrosDefaultLayout > > Do we have somebody to make the stupid item 3 go away? > > #

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-16 Thread Matej Cepl
On 15.3.2012 09:38, Tomasz Torcz wrote: Why and why just us? Good question, we deviate from upstream default: http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/DistrosDefaultLayout Do we have somebody to make the stupid item 3 go away? # If you're having issues with authorization and your permissions are # corre

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-15 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 07:44:53AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 03/13/2012 02:17 PM, James Antill wrote: > >On Sat, 2012-03-10 at 18:20 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > >>'Course we could go further and rename /etc/httpd -> /etc/apache (and > >>rename the package, both matching Deb

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-15 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 03/13/2012 02:17 PM, James Antill wrote: On Sat, 2012-03-10 at 18:20 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: 'Course we could go further and rename /etc/httpd -> /etc/apache (and rename the package, both matching Debian), which should have been done a long time ago. It used to be like that: htt

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-13 Thread James Antill
On Sat, 2012-03-10 at 18:20 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > 'Course we could go further and rename /etc/httpd -> /etc/apache (and > rename the package, both matching Debian), which should have been done > a long time ago. It used to be like that: http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Ente

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-10 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Mar 08, 2012 at 05:20:35PM +0100, Kay Sievers wrote: > So, please all just use a subdir directly in /etc with the name of the > package/subsystem, and put your files in there, This really ought to be a Fedora guideline. It is a recommendation in Debian, and has been since as long as I can

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-08 Thread Kay Sievers
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 17:21, Daniel J Walsh wrote: >> Why /etc/default dir is used instead of /etc/sysconfig? To be >> honest - it's not really user friendly from long time RH Linux user >> POV. >> > Just disable SELinux in /etc/selinux/config. Which is exactly the use model of /etc we recommen

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-07 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Tue, 2012-03-06 at 11:27 -0500, Paul Wouters wrote: > On Tue, 6 Mar 2012, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > > >> Why /etc/default dir is used instead of /etc/sysconfig? To be > >> honest - it's not really user friendly from long time RH Linux user > >> POV. > >> > > Just disable SELinux in /etc/selinux/

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-06 Thread Michał Piotrowski
W dniu 6 marca 2012 17:49 użytkownik Daniel J Walsh napisał: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/06/2012 11:38 AM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: >> 2012/3/6 Pádraig Brady : >>> On 03/06/2012 04:21 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: On 03/05/2012 03:20 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: >>

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-06 Thread Dave Quigley
On 3/6/2012 11:27 AM, Paul Wouters wrote: On Tue, 6 Mar 2012, Daniel J Walsh wrote: Why /etc/default dir is used instead of /etc/sysconfig? To be honest - it's not really user friendly from long time RH Linux user POV. Just disable SELinux in /etc/selinux/config. Or the more obvious place f

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-06 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/06/2012 11:38 AM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > 2012/3/6 Pádraig Brady : >> On 03/06/2012 04:21 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: >>> On 03/05/2012 03:20 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: Hi, >>> I wanted to add "selinux=0" to the kernel command line

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-06 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2012/3/6 Pádraig Brady : > On 03/06/2012 04:21 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: >> On 03/05/2012 03:20 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: >>> Hi, >> >>> I wanted to add "selinux=0" to the kernel command line on F17. I >>> checked /etc/sysconfig/, /etc/grub.d/, next I started to read >>> /etc/grub.d/10_linux (th

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-06 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2012/3/6 Paul Wouters : > On Tue, 6 Mar 2012, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > >>> Why /etc/default dir is used instead of /etc/sysconfig? To be >>> honest - it's not really user friendly from long time RH Linux user >>> POV. >>> >> Just disable SELinux in /etc/selinux/config. > > > Or the more obvious plac

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-06 Thread Pádraig Brady
On 03/06/2012 04:21 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > On 03/05/2012 03:20 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: >> Hi, > >> I wanted to add "selinux=0" to the kernel command line on F17. I >> checked /etc/sysconfig/, /etc/grub.d/, next I started to read >> /etc/grub.d/10_linux (this new grub2 is so user friend

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-06 Thread Paul Wouters
On Tue, 6 Mar 2012, Daniel J Walsh wrote: Why /etc/default dir is used instead of /etc/sysconfig? To be honest - it's not really user friendly from long time RH Linux user POV. Just disable SELinux in /etc/selinux/config. Or the more obvious place for people with /etc/sysconfig hardcoded in

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-06 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/05/2012 03:20 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > Hi, > > I wanted to add "selinux=0" to the kernel command line on F17. I > checked /etc/sysconfig/, /etc/grub.d/, next I started to read > /etc/grub.d/10_linux (this new grub2 is so user friendly..)

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-05 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mar 5, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > But then, we already 'invalidate upstream documentation for Fedora > users' by renaming all the command-line tools from 'grub-foo' to > 'grub2-foo'. Indeed, I lost about 47 brain cells on this issue alone. (By no means is it the winner for

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-05 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2012-03-05 at 21:37 +0100, Lars Seipel wrote: > On Monday 05 March 2012 21:20:12 Michał Piotrowski wrote: > > Why /etc/default dir is used instead of /etc/sysconfig? To be honest - > > it's not really user friendly from long time RH Linux user POV. > > It's what upstream uses. See > http:/

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-05 Thread Michał Piotrowski
W dniu 5 marca 2012 21:40 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski napisał: > 2012/3/5 Lars Seipel : >> On Monday 05 March 2012 21:20:12 Michał Piotrowski wrote: >>> Why /etc/default dir is used instead of /etc/sysconfig? To be honest - >>> it's not really user friendly from long time RH Linux user POV. >> >>

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-05 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2012/3/5 Lars Seipel : > On Monday 05 March 2012 21:20:12 Michał Piotrowski wrote: >> Why /etc/default dir is used instead of /etc/sysconfig? To be honest - >> it's not really user friendly from long time RH Linux user POV. > > It's what upstream uses. See > http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-05 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2012/3/5 Bill Nottingham : > Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) said: >> I wanted to add "selinux=0" to the kernel command line on F17. I >> checked /etc/sysconfig/, /etc/grub.d/, next I started to read >> /etc/grub.d/10_linux (this new grub2 is so user friendly..) and I >> found ${GRUB_CMDLINE_

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-05 Thread Lars Seipel
On Monday 05 March 2012 21:20:12 Michał Piotrowski wrote: > Why /etc/default dir is used instead of /etc/sysconfig? To be honest - > it's not really user friendly from long time RH Linux user POV. It's what upstream uses. See http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Simple-configuration

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-05 Thread Bill Nottingham
Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) said: > I wanted to add "selinux=0" to the kernel command line on F17. I > checked /etc/sysconfig/, /etc/grub.d/, next I started to read > /etc/grub.d/10_linux (this new grub2 is so user friendly..) and I > found ${GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX}. So I grepped /etc for GR

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-05 Thread Piscium
2012/3/5 Michał Piotrowski : > So I grepped /etc for GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX. > I found file: > /etc/default/grub > > Why /etc/default dir is used instead of /etc/sysconfig? To be honest - > it's not really user friendly from long time RH Linux user POV. I run Grub2 from upstream and the file is /usr/

/etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-05 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi, I wanted to add "selinux=0" to the kernel command line on F17. I checked /etc/sysconfig/, /etc/grub.d/, next I started to read /etc/grub.d/10_linux (this new grub2 is so user friendly..) and I found ${GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX}. So I grepped /etc for GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX. I found file: /etc/default/gru