On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> My point is that it must ALSO be possible to install the preferred desktop
> directly, without installing GNOME first.
Exactly this.
Installing MATE from the spin is not exactly the same thing as
installing it from the netinstall or the DVD
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Yeah, this idea of having to install GNOME first to be able to install the
> desktop you actually want is totally wacky, and if that is really what we
> recommend to our users, they will run to other distributions (that actually
> support the
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 4:55 AM, Josh Boyer wrote:
> Any other DE that wants to meet the requirements for Workstation is similarly
> welcome.
So if we meet the "requirements" exactly what happens?
As far as I understand, all MATE would have to do is use gdm as the
display manager. Is that correc
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Philip Prindeville
wrote:
> Did something recently change with the packaging of NetworkManager?
>
> I'm not finding NetworkManager-glib, just NetworkManager-glib-devel:
>
> [root@builder philipp]# yum update
> Loaded plugins: langpacks, refresh-packagekit
> adobe-l
On Mar 14, 2014 7:52 AM, "Brian Millett" wrote:
>
> What is the prospect of getting mate 1.8 for fedora 20?
Prospect is good.
We're QAing on Rawhide at the moment.
Dan
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On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:49 AM, Nils Philippsen wrote:
> sorry for stepping on your toes -- it was late in the evening and there
> were three packages blocking my build, I simply overlooked that harfbuzz
> was rebuilt already (I checked the others in koji and no builds were
> underway).
No probl
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Parag N(पराग़) wrote:
> Hi,
>From the yesterday's pkgs git commit logs I see 3-4 people built few
> packages for libicu soname bump. I am not sure why a single person can't
> carry such a few package rebuilds for libicu soname bump.
>Whoever (people names) w
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 7:48 PM, Carlos Morel-Riquelme
wrote:
> Hi guys , i have a question , i use fedora 20 branched and work fine , also
> i can contribute to the comunity send bugs error and testing new packages :)
> , now i don't now if i can update to fedora 21 branched when this is out.
>
>
Hi all,
I'm retiring gnome-media as it's no longer used by anything.
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On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 2:40 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> I won't speak for all of FESCo, but I'm leaning towards: "Spins can
> continue just as they are, while being aware that they continue to be
> secondary to our primary deliverables". (Yes, I'm aware of the
> KDE-as-release-blocker rule and
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 1:03 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> This is the domain of Fedora Remixes, not Fedora Spins. Downstreams
> are permitted (naturally) to use Fedora packages for whatever
> distribution they want to create. The catch is that they have to
> follow the policies on this page: http
On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Dan Mashal wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 5:04 PM, Bojan Smojver wrote:
>> Dan Mashal gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> Trying my hand at it.
>>
>> Thank you!
>
> F19 build is done and F20 build is about to be done.
>
>
On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> On Mon, 2014-02-03 at 19:42 -0700, Orion Poplawski wrote:
>> I'm not sure why the default -Wall is being
>> dropped from that line (it is on other tests).
>
> It's explicitly dropped on configure.ac:1265
>
> dnl We enable -Wall lat
On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote:
> The crux is that you need with -Wall or -Wformat as well on the compile
> line test for perl.h. I'm not sure why the default -Wall is being
> dropped from that line (it is on other tests). You might work around it
> by explicitly adding -W
On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 5:04 PM, Bojan Smojver wrote:
> Dan Mashal gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Trying my hand at it.
>
> Thank you!
F19 build is done and F20 build is about to be done.
Could not build for Rawhide (sent a separate email about that).
Please test a
Hi,
So when rebuilding pidgin today I had issues building it for rawhide
and on my local machine (F20).
Basically this flag is causing the configure script to not be able to
locate perl.h
Looked at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Format-Security-FAQ but it is
very vague and doesn't provide many e
On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Bojan Smojver wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Could someone with requisite rights rebuild Pidgin, please? Apparently,
> there were quite a few security fixes in 2.10.8 and 2.10.9 is out as
> well.
Hi,
Trying my hand at it.
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On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Blame me, I filed the original ticket. My concern was that we're (obviously)
> doing work in the Fedora.next space around:
>
> 1) the three products (workstation, server, cloud)
> 2) the base, which lives under them in some manner
> 3) env
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 6:22 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"
wrote:
>
> On 01/30/2014 02:02 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 14:59:44 +0100
>> Johannes Lips wrote:
>>
>>> Well, but it's not only about money and a lot of contributors use
>>> their spare time to contribute, so I wouldn
On Wed, 2014-01-29 at 16:33 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 4:03 PM, inode0 wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 2:57 PM, H. Guémar
> > wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I think we should keep spins as long as we don't have a formal process to
> >> accept new products.
> >> Something li
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 3:43 AM, Dan Mashal wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Bob Richmond wrote:
>> No, the EFL is distributed as one big tarball now. All the old releases
>> could be found here:
>>
>> http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/
>>
On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Bob Richmond wrote:
> No, the EFL is distributed as one big tarball now. All the old releases
> could be found here:
>
> http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/
>
> Starting with 1.8.0, they're distributed in:
>
> http://download.enlightenment.org/rel/libs/efl/
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Richard Vickery
wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 7:28 AM, Reindl Harald
> wrote:
>>
>> look like it starts to happen again: a replacement which is not ready
>>
>> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2014-January/444565.html
>> https://lists.fedora
Sent from my Google Nexus 5
On Jan 2, 2014 8:36 AM, "Richard W.M. Jones" wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jan 02, 2014 at 04:28:59PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
> > look like it starts to happen again: a replacement which is not ready
> >
> > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2014-January/444565.h
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 5:20 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 02:52:27PM +0100, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
>> I am at a point where I think it starts to look good, the unit-tests are
>> passing
>> and I seem to be able to do what I want with it. Thus I thought this would
>>
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> libmatekeyring
> obsoleted by: mate-desktop
> mate-keyring
> obsoleted by: mate-desktop
We know about these 2 and will obsolete them soon.
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On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Brendan Jones
wrote:
> On 12/05/2013 12:28 AM, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:11 AM, Brendan Jones
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 12/05/2013 12:11 AM, Ian Pilcher wrote:
On 12/04/2013 04:56 PM, Brendan Jones wrote:
>
>
> Patc
It seems that this package is no longer needed. Please let me know
there is a reason that we should keep it. Will retire on all Fedora
releases next week.
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On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Dan Mashal wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
>> On Sun, 06 Oct 2013 15:09:24 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
>>
>>> Michael Schwendt wrote:
>>>
>>> > On Sun, 06 Oct 2013 19:11:41 +0200, Ralf Co
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Sun, 06 Oct 2013 15:09:24 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
>
>> Michael Schwendt wrote:
>>
>> > On Sun, 06 Oct 2013 19:11:41 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>> >
>> >> I now see ... the version in f19 was greater than that in f20+rawhide,
>> >> for
Seems to be working OK here.
Dan
On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 6:24 AM, Jon Ciesla wrote:
> I'm seeing this too.
>
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=6024388
>
> -J
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Paul Howarth wrote:
>>
>> I'm seeing this in root.log for all Rawhide builds:
>>
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 2:39 AM, drago01 wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Michael J Gruber
> wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I can see that thunderbird 24 had been built successfully and then
>> reverted on the fc18 branch (and others). The git commit log and the
>> spec changelog say
>>
>> R
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> Per:
>
> https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1171
>
> I have added a set of cols to the spins page for f20:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Releases%2F20%2FSpins&diff=352468&oldid=340210
>
> One each for "Alpha" "Beta" and "F
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Kalev Lember wrote:
> On 09/02/2013 05:44 PM, Kalev Lember wrote:
>> The GNOME 3.9.91 release is coming as well, with a bit unfortunate
>> timing wrt. Fedora freezes. In any case, we'll handle the GNOME 3.9.91
>> builds together and file them as a single megaupdate
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> Greetings.
>
> After consulting with various teams, release engineering has re-enabled
> rawhide composes to create install images again. These images were
> dropped as part of the 'no frozen rawhide' proposal several years ago.
>
> This allows
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 1:52 AM, Tomas Babej wrote:
> Hi,
>
> attached is a patch for Fedora comps that adds FreeIPA package group.
>
> Please chime in with any feedback you might have!
>
> --
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On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Dan Mashal wrote:
>
> The choices are what the community came up with. At this point, that
> is what we have to chose from.
>
> I'm not necessarily disagreeing, but there are essentiall
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> *smack own forehead* I like that better than the other options also. For me,
> one extra point for Vidalia onion over "20".
>
> Heck I like "Crazy Train" based on a recent Matthew Miller assertion.
>
> Assuming there can be no late add ins th
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> I believe that it was decided that like had been done in the past, this
> release would be dedicated to Seth Vidal, but not named after him as Seth
> hated released names with a white hot passion of 10,000 supernovas. [Of
> course he w
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
>
>
>
> On 22 August 2013 13:31, Michael Schwendt wrote:
>>
>> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/relnamef20
>>
>> Is this thing for real?
>>
>> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/
>> says the End Date is 2013-08-23 23:59
Hi. These packages were obsoleted in MATE 1.6 along with the migration
to gsettings.
libmate
libmateui
libmatecanvas
libmatecomponent
libatecomponentui
libmatenotify
mate-conf (compiz no longer relies on mate-conf)
mate-conf-editor
mate-doc-utils (to be retired in F21 with MATE 1.8)
mate-keyring (
:19:27
To: Development discussions related to Fedora
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Subject: Re: BlueZ Status in Fedora.
On Thu, 2013-08-15 at 15:10 -0700, Dan Mashal wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Dan Mashal wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 10:55 AM,
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote:
> doxygen (at least for some packages) is creating files like:
>
> _builddir_build_BUILD_torque-3.0.4_src_drmaa_src_.3
>
> that have contents like:
>
> .TH "src Directory Reference" 3 "Fri Aug 16 2013" "Version 3.0.4" "torque"
> \" -*- nroff
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Dan Mashal wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote:
>> doxygen (at least for some packages) is creating files like:
>>
>> _builddir_build_BUILD_torque-3.0.4_src_drmaa_src_.3
>>
>> that have contents like:
&
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 1:35 AM, Jiri Popelka wrote:
> On 08/16/2013 01:54 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Bill Nottingham
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Underlying dep of libgnomeprint22/libgnomeprintui22, which is used by a
>>> few
>>> end-user things (gpp, conglomerate, gno
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Dan Mashal wrote:
> The package currently fails to build and upstream appears to be dead.
> Even the working package does not save settings.
>
> https://wiki.gnome.org/GPointingDeviceSettings
>
> https://git.gnome.org/browse/gpointing-device-set
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Ananda Samaddar wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 15:46:36 -0700
> Yes they are. Flash is slowly dying though, only to be replaced by DRM
> in html5. Out of the frying pan...
>
> Ananda
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On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 3:38 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth
wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote:
>> Thanks. Turns out ckeditor also had a raw .fla file. I don't know if any
>> package would have a .fla without a .swf, but it might be worth checking
>> for.
>
> Thanks for poi
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Dan Mashal wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Lars Seipel wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 08:37:19PM -0700, Dan Mashal wrote:
>>> Otherwise we are looking at possibly reforking gnome-bluetooth at this
>>> point in time.
>
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Lars Seipel wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 08:37:19PM -0700, Dan Mashal wrote:
>> Otherwise we are looking at possibly reforking gnome-bluetooth at this
>> point in time.
>
> Reforking? And then wait until the bitrot sets in again? ;-)
&
The package currently fails to build and upstream appears to be dead.
Even the working package does not save settings.
https://wiki.gnome.org/GPointingDeviceSettings
https://git.gnome.org/browse/gpointing-device-settings/
Problem: This is a useful package that controls touchpad settings.
I have
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 6:44 AM, Kalev Lember wrote:
> On 08/13/2013 02:28 PM, Rave it wrote:
>> Other probs are:
>> 1. gnome-bluetooth upstream has removed the fallback icon for autostart in
>> session,...no systray icon in other DE than gnome itself.
>> 2. if gnome revert this change in ups
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Juan Rodriguez
wrote:
> Hi Devel!
>
> I've recently been approached about one of the packages I maintain, Blueman,
> an alternative Bluetooth Manager.
>
> At the time I packaged it, it was actively being developed, however
> development has stopped for over a year
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 3:02 AM, Johannes Lips wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:59 PM, Lennart Poettering
> wrote:
>>
>> BOn Tue, 30.07.13 16:14, Dan Williams (d...@redhat.com) wrote:
>>
>> > On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 23:03 +0200, Lars Seipel wrote:
>> > > On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 04:28:55PM +0200,
On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 4:24 AM, Christoph Wickert
wrote:
> Am Sonntag, den 28.07.2013, 04:03 -0700 schrieb Dan Mashal:
>> Hi,
>>
>> After discussion on #fedora-devel, my MATE co-maintainer raveit65,
>> Kalev, Misc, and previous conversations with Rex, I am re
Hi,
After discussion on #fedora-devel, my MATE co-maintainer raveit65,
Kalev, Misc, and previous conversations with Rex, I am ready to retire
ConsoleKit.
LightDM seems to fully support systemd-logind.
However I have no rights to commit to systemd.
Lennart or any proven packager please add the
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>
> On Jul 25, 2013, at 6:42 PM, Dan Mashal wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Lennart Poettering
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> "He" didn't depart from the meeting. He was at dinner with fri
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Hi
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 8:42 PM, Dan Mashal
>>
>>
>> Your attitude is atrocious. Go start your own distro. You already
>> ruined ours with systemd and PulseAudio. Stop acting like you own
>
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Lennart Poettering
wrote:
> On Thu, 25.07.13 17:59, Billy Crook (billycr...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
>> After some reasonable dialog on the issue FESCo meeting, it was clear
>> he wasn't going to immediately get exactly what he wanted without any
>> challenge. So he de
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 05:09:54PM -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
>> On 25 July 2013 16:59, Billy Crook wrote:
>> > On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote:
>> >> Given the amount of time that he spent on the mailing-lis
Hi Alex this the reply I was looking for. Anyone still running 2k3 I feel
sorry for. 2k8r2 and beyond is the way to go.
Mainly we would be looking at something simple like having your Ad creds
work on Fedora boxes.
Thanks,
Dan
On Jul 24, 2013 10:44 PM, "Alexander Bokovoy" wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Ju
+1
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I apologize if I missed this in your email but Is there a link for Windows
Administrators as to what versions of AD (2000,2003,200877,2012) are supported
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This is becoming a more regular and annyoing accorance. If you can't get the
dependencies right please hand it over to a provenpackager.
Dan
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On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Hey, folks - I have my desktop on Rawhide now, and on trying to install
> the latest kernel build from Koji today -
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=433327 - the yum
> process seemed to hang indefinitely at ' Cleanup
On Monday, July 8, 2013, Matthias Runge wrote:
>
> > Sadly, the page still doesn't list, what is going to . I assume,
> the whole thing is slightly more than just adding a new package to Fedora
> > The Feature page still belongs to the FeaturePageIncomplete category.
>
I feel a somewhat similar
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Pierre-Yves Luyten wrote:
> Not sure if it makes any sense but maybe could we have something like
> "freeze tag changes until desc is better".
>
> I propose this because testers will not _really_ want to -1 karma, and
> as a maintainer it might be a bit hard, but wi
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Björn Persson
wrote:
> Perhaps you would like to write an RFC specifying the Source Code,
> Changelogs and Release Notes Publishing Protocol and submit it to the
> IETF, so that there will be a sane way to automatically find and parse
> those changelogs and release
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 6:44 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 10:45:10AM +0200, Emmanuel Seyman wrote:
>> * Richard W.M. Jones [01/07/2013 09:28] :
>> >
>> > * Instead of making up more rules, make the tooling better so
>> > we don't have to repeat update descriptions in mult
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 4:41 AM, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
> websites are aware, spin maintainers were notified via the spins list,
> no objections have been raised. not sure if its in the release notes.
Hi,
I can't speak for other spins but MATE-Compiz spins site has been
created and will go live w
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Mateusz Marzantowicz
wrote:
> On 17.06.2013 17:18, Heiko Adams wrote:
>
> From my point of view the java-plugin is a big security hole and should be
> kicked from default installations ASAP.
>
>
>
> Then, why not fix it?
>
>
> Mateusz Marzantowicz
There is no way
On Jun 17, 2013 8:03 AM, "Bill Nottingham" wrote:
> The one issue I can see with removing it is that the plugin finder you
> then get in Firefox if you hit a Java site doesn't work to actually get
you
> the Fedora version.
I would keep it if people really use it. I'm on the opposite side, where i
Hi,
gnome-icon-theme has been updated from GPL license to LGPLv3.
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On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 3:42 AM, Jiri Eischmann wrote:
> Hi,
> I wonder if any spin is still using system-config-language. GNOME has
> its own graphical utility to install language support, but AFAIK there
> is no counterpart in other environments, right?
> The problem is that system-config-langua
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 12:35 AM, Simone Caronni wrote:
> On 11 June 2013 09:31, Simone Caronni wrote:
>>
>> I'm still looking for a fix to the second bug. Any provenpackager willing
>> to help with the second issue?
>
>
> ...or willing to grant me commit access.
>
> Thanks,
> --Simone
>
Didn't
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Dan Mashal wrote:
> No, FESCo will still do the _engineering_ work of reviewing the proposed
> changes, ensuring the impact is known and coordinated, and so on. All of
> the FESCo-accepted
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 7:30 AM, Josh Boyer wrote:
> Sure. FESCo doesn't care if it's a feature or not.
>
> That's why it's no longer called the Feature process. FESCo is an
> engineering committee and has no business determining if something is
> a Feature in an upcoming release of the distro.
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 7:02 AM, Tom Callaway wrote:
> Only people who refer to themselves by name in their own abstracts (or
> describe themselves in such a way that it is obvious who they are) ended
> up like this. We honestly didn't think that was going to happen.
>
> This was an experiment. If
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote:
> Dne 3.6.2013 19:04, Dan Mashal napsal(a):
>
>> What is a system wide change vs a self contained change vs a new change?
>
>
> That is good question. I was always against distinguishing between these
> two, but
&
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 5:42 AM, Fedora Branched Report
wrote:
> Compose started at Tue Jun 4 09:15:03 UTC 2013
>
> Broken deps for x86_64
> --
> [libreatlas]
> libreatlas-1.0.0a-3.fc19.x86_64 requires librasterlite.so.0()(64bit)
> [l
Hi,
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
> A rule of thumb: If _only_ the owners of the change need to be involved or
> informed, it is "self-contained". (This can be either because the change is
> so small, e.g. update of a single package, or because the number owners is
> so
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> Hi!
> Fedora 19 is close (let's hope it's alive) to the release and it's
> again the time to start planning for the upcoming version.
>
> For Fedora 20, in coordination with FESCo [1], the new Planning process
> was developed to replace the
What is the status of this?
Is this still filing bug reports?
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On May 21, 2013 11:50 AM, "Adam Williamson" wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 14:25 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > So I'm writing a blog post on this topic ATM, and that really kinda
> > brought home how messy this design is at present.
>
> So! I've been poking through the logic of this for the
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 12:52 PM, John J. McDonough wrote:
> We had a short discussion of this at this morning's meeting but felt a
> broader discussion here was warranted.
>
> When preparing the Release Notes, we often ask the developers for wiki
> input, and generally come up dry. More recently,
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> We now appear to have *four* virtual provides for mail servers:
>
> MTA
> smtpd
> smtpdaemon
> server(smtp)
>
> This seems a tad excessive. exim and postfix provide all four. sendmail
> provides MTA, smtpdaemon and server(smtp). Nothing els
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Luya Tshimbalanga
wrote:
> You can call "lacking online access" justification stupid if you want,
> you forgot there are users who still prefer DVD installation rather than
> spin. You wanted to remove the entire Design suite package set
> (available since several
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 12:07 AM, Luya Tshimbalanga
wrote:
> -1. Design Suite package is for those lacking online access and wanting to
> use available applications.
I see a lot of stupid justifications for "lacking online access". AN
ENTIRE SPIN is not enough?
Would you like us to mail you the s
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> We did, because GNOME no longer uses gnome-panel. All those packages
> that require gnome-panel are applets, which are just as useless without
> gnome-panel. If you want to keep gnome-panel alive for some reason
> (although you already have
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Tom Callaway wrote:
> It appears to be needed by only:
> byzanz - optional panel applet, update building right now.
> cinnamon-menu-editor - Not sure why this depends on gnome-panel.
> gnome-applet-sensors - probably should be blocked.
> openbox - Should disable gdm
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 5:25 AM, Fedora Branched Report
wrote:
> Compose started at Wed May 8 09:15:02 UTC 2013
>
> Broken deps for x86_64
> --
> [byzanz]
> byzanz-0.3-0.5.fc17.x86_64 requires libpanel-applet-4.so.0()(64bit)
> [cinnam
On Wednesday, May 8, 2013, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
> On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 10:10 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote:
> > On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 09:03:02PM -0700, Dan Mashal wrote:
> > > Let's be realistic here. The precedence they have recently set is they
> > > make de
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Igor Gnatenko
wrote:
> I use original .spec file. It in attachment.
Why are you using an unreleased git source?
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On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 9:10 PM, Igor Gnatenko
wrote:
> I use mock to local build packages.
> I was build control-center in mock. But always error...
> How I fix it ?
> GEN gnome-control-center.1
> I/O error : Attempt to load network entity
> http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/curren
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> For the record:
>
> commit da565b769979a031f318dbc727b9888e4f1fb37c
> Author: Chris Lumens
> Date: Mon May 6 17:18:30 2013 -0400
>
> Revert "Add signal handlers for controlling password entry
> visibility." (#958608).
>
> This rev
On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> You posted this on friday afternoon, Rauhl re-opened the bug
> friday night. I suspect many anaconda folks have not even seen this
> discussion or the bug reopening yet. Is there some massive hurry here?
No.
> Lets see what anaconda developers
On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 2:37 AM, Michael Scherer wrote:
> and I think that even Bruce Schneier have gave his opinion in favor of
> the proposal :
> http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/06/the_problem_wit_2.html
> http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/07/the_pros_and_co.html
Which he lat
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Bruno Wolff III said:
>> It's not like the people entering the password don't know it is visible.
>
> Actually, yes it is. The vast majority of other software that accepts
> passwords for any reason hides the passwords as th
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Pete Zaitcev wrote:
> This is a perfectly appropriate forum where their authority for
> making this decision is to be discussed before it's revoked if
> necessary.
Hi Pete. Thanks for your very helpful reply. You mentioned something
VERY important, so now I have a
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> If you want to change a decision, it helps if you're discussing it in a
> forum that's read by the people who made that decision.
Anaconda developers don't read the developer list? That's terrible!
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Matthew
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