Re: Building upstream kernel with Fedora config

2024-06-24 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
On 07.06.24 08:04, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > On 06.06.24 17:47, Justin Forbes wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 6, 2024 at 9:19 AM Thorsten Leemhuis >> wrote: >>> On 04.06.24 18:12, Mikhail Gavrilov wrote: >>> >>>> Instruction [1] about building upstream kerne

Re: Building upstream kernel with Fedora config

2024-06-06 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
On 06.06.24 17:47, Justin Forbes wrote: > On Thu, Jun 6, 2024 at 9:19 AM Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: >> >> On 04.06.24 18:12, Mikhail Gavrilov wrote: >> >>> Instruction [1] about building upstream kernel should be updated, >> I'd tend to disagree. I thin

Re: Building upstream kernel with Fedora config

2024-06-06 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
[CCing Justin] On 04.06.24 18:12, Mikhail Gavrilov wrote: > Instruction [1] about building upstream kernel should be updated, I'd tend to disagree. I think the root of the problem should be fixed, which you... > because since commit 5e6abd7f4dce [2] the Fedora kernel config contain > CONFIG_SYS

Re: Announcing creation of Fedora Source-git SIG

2021-04-14 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
On 14.04.21 10:45, Tomas Tomecek wrote: > Good morning, I'd like to announce the creation of Fedora Source-git SIG: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Source-git > > Our main goal in the SIG right now is to establish a development > workflow for Fedora Linux packages using repositories with so

Re: Ars claims: Fedora 32 is sluggish

2021-02-11 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Am 11.02.21 um 15:28 schrieb Peter Robinson: > On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 1:03 PM Ondrej Mosnacek wrote: >> On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 10:14 AM Viktor Ashirov wrote: >>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 5:54 PM Michael Catanzaro >>> wrote: > […] >>> This was bugging me for a while. I also noticed that Fedora 3

Re: Using amdgpu as default for all GCN cards

2017-09-25 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Lo! On 25.09.2017 20:28, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > On 25/09/17 04:51 AM, Kamil Paral wrote: > […] > So far, Sea Island cards are enabled by default from kernel 4.13.x while > only the old GCN cards (South Island) are the last to remain > experimental. Source? Afaics it's more like: Yes, GCN is c

Re: Kernel 4.13 rebase plans

2017-09-05 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
On 05.09.2017 18:59, James Hogarth wrote: > On 5 Sep 2017 5:42 pm, "Laura Abbott" > wrote: > > Kernel 4.13 was released this past weekend. This kernel has been > built for rawhide and is building for F27 as well. We will be > following the same upgrade proced

Re: Proposal: Rethink Fedora multilib support

2017-01-05 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Lo! On 05.01.2017 17:03, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > [...] > ## Advantages > > * Simplification of build-tree creation. We wouldn't have to maintain the > lists > and hacks that are required to make sure that multilib packages land in the > correct repositories. > [...] Just wondering: Why don't

Re: RPM %changelog?

2016-10-24 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
On 23.10.2016 19:31, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 10:37:17AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: >> In Mageia, we use the VCS log as input to dynamically generate the RPM >> changelog and append it to the spec as part of the SRPM build process >> for the package build. > This would be f

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

2016-05-12 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Peter Robinson wrote on 12.05.2016 10:11: >>> = Proposed System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir = >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ReposInEtcDistroReposD >>> >>> Change owner(s): >>> * Neal Gompa >>> * Jan Silhan >>> >>> >>> == Detailed Description == >>> For DN

Can soft dependencies help to get the proper kernel-devel packages? (Was: Soft- Re: DKMS is not installing the right kernel-devel package)

2015-06-12 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Josh Boyer wrote on 12.06.2015 13:55: > On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 7:24 AM, Neal Gompa wrote: > [...] > As I said, there are no great solutions here. A "works most of the time"-solution would be: Install kernel-devel by default. But I'm not seriously suggesting that, because I fully agree: It's not

Re: DKMS is not installing the right kernel-devel package

2015-06-09 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
olution, that's solving the problem for some users and ignoring others (those that use kernel-PAE for example). > [...] CU thl > On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Thorsten Leemhuis <mailto:fed...@leemhuis.info>> wrote: > > On 09.06.2015 21:04, Neal Gompa wrote: &

Re: DKMS is not installing the right kernel-devel package

2015-06-09 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
On 09.06.2015 21:04, Neal Gompa wrote: > I've noticed that when dkms is installed, it's not grabbing the right > kernel-devel package as a dependency. Because that's not possible with ordinary dependencies (might be possible with soft dependencies [Suggests, Enhances etc]) unless we change someth

Re: RFC: xserver update strategy in F21+

2014-11-17 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Lo! Adam Jackson wrote on 17.11.2014 20:06: > > With that in mind, I ask for feedback on how we'd actually like that to > work. The kernel rebase policy seems like a pretty reasonable model: > F21 would stay on 1.16.x until there's an upstream 1.17.1 release, and > (if F20 were to be affected by

Re: btrfs as default filesystem for F22?

2014-10-08 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
On 08.10.2014 14:50, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 1:52 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis > wrote: >> Josh Boyer wrote on 07.10.2014 21:15: >>> On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Josef Bacik wrote: >>> [...] >> http://kernel.opensuse.org/cgit/kernel-sou

Re: btrfs as default filesystem for F22?

2014-10-07 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Thorsten Leemhuis wrote on 08.10.2014 07:52: > Josh Boyer wrote on 07.10.2014 21:15: >> On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Josef Bacik wrote: >> […] >>>> I think the point is somewhat valid though. To just keep repeating the >>>> mantra 'its not ready'

Re: btrfs as default filesystem for F22?

2014-10-07 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Josh Boyer wrote on 07.10.2014 21:15: > On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Josef Bacik wrote: > […] >>> I think the point is somewhat valid though. To just keep repeating the >>> mantra 'its not ready' is not going to make it any more ready. If suse >>> can identify a stable subset of btrfs features

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Wayland

2014-04-30 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Hi! Jaroslav Reznik wrote on 30.04.2014 16:27: > - Original Message - >> Jaroslav Reznik wrote on 29.04.2014 14:04: >> > Port the GNOME desktop to Wayland. >> >> Sorry, but what is actually proposed here? The above sentence for me >> doesn't make any sense(¹), as Gnome 3.12 is able to run

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Wayland

2014-04-30 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Hi! Jaroslav Reznik wrote on 29.04.2014 14:04: > > Port the GNOME desktop to Wayland. Sorry, but what is actually proposed here? The above sentence for me doesn't make any sense(¹), as Gnome 3.12 is able to run on Wayland already (not perfectly, but it works afaik), so it was ported already I'd

Re: Fedora.next in 2014 -- Big Picture and Themes

2014-01-25 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
On 25.01.2014 17:35, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Sat, 2014-01-25 at 11:20 +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > >> Debian, who has a similar stance on >> non-free Software, does a way better job in that area than Fedora does. > Well, not really - they don't have a 

Re: Fedora.next in 2014 -- Big Picture and Themes

2014-01-25 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Hi! On 23.01.2014 22:45, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2014-01-23 at 19:03 +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > >> wikipedia page. Further: kororaproject.org, fedorautils-installer and >> similar project show that there are people that want to make Fedora >> better

Re: Fedora.next in 2014 -- Big Picture and Themes

2014-01-25 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi! On 23.01.2014 22:33, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 19:03:02 +0100 Thorsten Leemhuis > wrote: >> On 03.01.2014 19:14, Matthew Miller wrote: >>> […] So those are my things. What do you think about them? Wha

Re: Fedora.next in 2014 -- Big Picture and Themes

2014-01-25 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Hi! On 23.01.2014 20:57, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 07:03:02PM +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: >> Okay, I'll bite (after thinking whether writing this mail is worth it): > Thanks. I hope that I can make you feel that it was. Thx for your answer – yes, I thin

Re: Fedora.next in 2014 -- Big Picture and Themes

2014-01-25 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Hi! On 23.01.2014 19:26, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Thorsten Leemhuis > wrote: > > […] Thx for your answer, just replying to some parts of it where I feel that making additional statements bring the discussion forward. >> What really gives me t

Re: Fedora.next in 2014 -- Big Picture and Themes

2014-01-23 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi! On 03.01.2014 19:14, Matthew Miller wrote: > […] So those are my things. What do you think about them? What > else should be included? What different directions should we > consider? How will we make Fedora more awesome than ever in the > coming

Re: ntfs-3g critpath update for F18 needs karma

2013-02-18 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
On 18.02.2013 16:26, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-1536/testdisk-6.13-5.fc18.1,ntfs-3g-2013.1.13-1.fc18.1 > > This update needs karma. Apparently I can't push it otherwise, even > though it works fine for me. > > Note that there are two -1's o

Re: Kernel 3.7 in Fedora 18

2012-12-27 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
On 27.12.2012 10:34, M.M. wrote: > Is kernel 3.7 expected to be available for Fedora 18? > If so, can you estimate how long it will take? > Thank you. See http://jwboyer.livejournal.com/46002.html Quoting one part: """ > Fedora 18: […] The 3.7 kernel rebase will be available as an update via the

Re: PSA: updates-testing default disabled now

2012-12-22 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Hi! On 21.12H.2012 18:34, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > Just a heads up to everyone using f18 right now: > > with fedora-release-18-1 that just pushed out to updates-testing > yesterday, the updates-testing repo is now by default disabled. > [...] I for one find it annoying having to fiddle with the re

Re: fedpkg / koji error

2012-10-23 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Lo! On 23.10.2012 17:23, Tom Callaway wrote: On 10/22/2012 10:37 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 10/22/2012 10:43 PM, Tom Callaway wrote: On 10/22/2012 12:09 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: There is currently no way to "undefine" a macro at the rpm commandline, rpmbuild --define " %{nil}" ? Hu

Re: Wayland update broke mesa?

2012-10-19 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
On 19.10.2012 22:54, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > > I'd assume mesa in Fedora needs this three patches: > > http://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/commit/?id=0229e3ae41be109ac423b2eb2ddf79e24b799d60 > http://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/commit/?id=2b8e90a33826dcd30b0cbbf464f

Re: Wayland update broke mesa?

2012-10-19 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
On 19.10.2012 16:10, Jerry James wrote: > I'm working my way through Rawhide rebuilds for the recent OCaml > update. One of my builds failed last night like this: > […] > File "ide/coqide_main.ml4", line 1: > Error: Error on dynamically loaded library: > /usr/lib/ocaml/stublibs/dlllablgtk2.so: /li

Re: fedpkg / koji error

2012-10-18 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
On 18.10.2012 10:45, Simone Caronni wrote: > On 18 October 2012 09:57, Thorsten Leemhuis <mailto:fed...@leemhuis.info>> wrote: > > --with-egl-platforms=x11,drm%{!?rhel:,wayland} \ > The ",wayland" is not added, as rhel is defined now as 0 when building &g

Re: fedpkg / koji error

2012-10-18 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Lo! On 09.10.2012 20:03, Jesse Keating wrote: > On 10/09/2012 07:14 AM, Simone Caronni wrote: >> On 19 September 2012 00:26, Orion Poplawski wrote: >>> On 09/05/2012 08:07 PM, Tom Callaway wrote: Jesse, I'm not sure if you're still the correct upstream here, please correct me if you're

Re: Firefox / Thunderbird 17 ESR for Fedora 16/17

2012-09-23 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
On 23.09.2012 13:10, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 23.09.2012 13:06, schrieb Thorsten Leemhuis: >> Has anybody considered to package the ESR releases for Fedora or is the >> general consensus "that doesn't make much sense, just leads to confusion >> and is not worth the

Re: Firefox / Thunderbird 17 ESR for Fedora 16/17

2012-09-23 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
On 22.09.2012 13:02, Julian Sikorski wrote: > W dniu 21.09.2012 15:33, Martin Stransky pisze: >> as the subject says there are test packages available for your beloved >> Fedora's. Especially Thunderbird 17 (Earlybird now) needs some love from >> you (the 17ESR line is going to be a background for

Re: 3.5 overheating - temperature increase of 83%?

2012-08-06 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Michał Piotrowski wrote on 06.08.2012 08:59: > > I noticed some strange sensors values on Linux 3.5 > [...] > Do anyone else noticed something like that? I'd say this post is off-topic here and this (and all further replies) should have gone/should go to this list instead: https://admin.fedorapro

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2012-06-18)

2012-06-19 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Josh Boyer wrote on 19.06.2012 13:42: > On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 5:09 AM, Till Maas wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 01:10:34PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >>> * ticket 864 F18 Feature: DNF - >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DNF (nirik, 17:44:17) >>> * AGREED: Feature is approved (+8

Re: Booting Fedora from LVM with grub2

2012-03-28 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Adam Williamson wrote on 27.03.2012 20:14: > [...] > It's worth bearing in mind there's a giant anaconda UI rewrite still > pending, which entirely redesigns the storage configuration GUI. One of > the other major changes is that it makes all installations > kickstart-driven. The GUI will just prod

Re: Summary & minutes for today's FESCo meeting (2012-03-19)

2012-03-20 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Josh Boyer wrote on 20.03.2012 02:26: > On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: >> * #830 F18 Feature: ARM as Primary Arch -- >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/FedoraARM (limburgher, >> 18:44:13) >> * LINK: >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Machine_Resources_For_

Re: Draft schedule for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (19 March 2012)

2012-03-19 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Hi! /me gave the mail a subject Jon Ciesla wrote on 18.03.2012 23:33: > > = New business = > [...] > > #topic #822 F18 Feature: AE1000 USB wifi driver - > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/AE1000usb > .fesco 822 I must be missing something here. Is that a early April fools joke or is tha

Clarify our position on forks (was: Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2012-02-27 at 18UTC))

2012-02-26 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Kevin Fenzi wrote on 27.02.2012 04:21: > > #topic #810 Clarify our position on forks .fesco 810 It's just a statement that is asked for in the ticket, but nevertheless: Shouldn't issues like this be discussed on this list first, so FESCo members can get a impression from the flamewar ^w discussio

Re: F15 ext4 discard option - why not default?

2011-03-16 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
On 16.03.2011 18:55, Ric Wheeler wrote: > On 03/16/2011 01:53 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: >> I installed F15 on SSD and I noticed that file systems are not mounted >> with discard option. >> Shouldn't "discard" option be enabled by default for SSD devices? > > No - discard is off on purpose. Some

Re: i686/x86_64 dual install media

2010-10-25 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
On 25.10.2010 20:49, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Sun, 2010-10-24 at 10:45 -0400, Mark Bidewell wrote: >> Sorry if this has been discussed, but has there every been discussion >> of a dual 32/64-bit install media? I realize that the default package >> selection would be reduced but with a high spee

Re: xulrunner 2.0 in rawhide (F15) bundles several system libs

2010-10-14 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Kevin Kofler wrote on 14.10.2010 00:36: > Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: >> * Why haven't those that want iceweasel and icedove in Fedora not >> simply invested some time and got them integrated into the repository?(¹) > Because having both Iceweasel and Firefox in the rep

Re: xulrunner 2.0 in rawhide (F15) bundles several system libs

2010-10-05 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Kevin Kofler wrote on 02.10.2010 00:56: > Sven Lankes wrote: >> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=577653 >> Looking at how rigorous new packages with bundled libs are fought we >> should really stop shipping firefox and start shipping Iceweasel. > +1 > > I really don't see why the Firef

Re: REVIEW/RFC: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Kevin/Updates_Policy_Draft

2010-09-23 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
On 22.09.2010 22:45, Adam Jackson wrote: > On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 22:21 +0200, Till Maas wrote: >> This here sounds strange: >> | The update rate for any given release should drop off over time, >> | approaching zero near release end-of-life; since updates are primarily >> | bugfixes, fewer and fewe

Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-15 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Toshio Kuratomi wrote on 15.09.2010 04:54: > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 07:02:33PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 20:48:13 -0400 >> Máirín Duffy wrote: >> > Only 5 of the 9 FESCo members voted on this issue. If all 9 had voted, >> > even with the current 3 for / 2 against vote, syst

Re: Broadcom wifi drivers in F-14?

2010-09-14 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Hans de Goede wrote on 15.09.2010 08:31: > On 09/14/2010 01:31 PM, David Woodhouse wrote: >> On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 00:40 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: >>> IIRC they require a firmware blob that has a license that we cannot >>> distribute >>> unlike say the Intel firmwares. I could be wrong though. >

Re: Features in new releases / updates

2010-05-22 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
On 22.05.2010 11:59, Matt McCutchen wrote: > On Sat, 2010-05-22 at 10:14 +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: >> On 20.05.2010 18:42, Jesse Keating wrote: >>> On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 14:25 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: >>>> I'd expect most of the support to end up in

Re: web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-22 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
On 20.05.2010 18:42, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 14:25 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: >> I'd expect most of the support to end up in F13 updates, so I'm not >> sure a feature page really makes sense. > This happens with a lot of our features anyway, [...] And that imho is quite bad

Re: Conflicts in latest update

2010-03-16 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
On 16.03.2010 20:46, James Antill wrote: > On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 20:09 +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: >> On 16.03.2010 17:42, Till Maas wrote: >>> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 01:45:33PM +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: >>>> There are so many developers around on

Re: Conflicts in latest update

2010-03-16 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
On 16.03.2010 17:42, Till Maas wrote: > On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 01:45:33PM +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: >> There are so many developers around on this list that know: reporting >> bugs is the right way to get problems fixed and fixing things is way >> better than posting

Re: Conflicts in latest update

2010-03-16 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Ankur Sinha wrote on 16.03.2010 14:33: > On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 13:45 +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: >> Jon Masters wrote on 16.03.2010 13:04: >> > On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 11:16 +0100, Matěj Cepl wrote: >> >> Dne 16.3.2010 09:50, Ankur Sinha napsal(a): >> >>

Re: Conflicts in latest update

2010-03-16 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Jon Masters wrote on 16.03.2010 13:04: > On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 11:16 +0100, Matěj Cepl wrote: >> Dne 16.3.2010 09:50, Ankur Sinha napsal(a): >> > I did notice that. I wasn't sure why a package from rpmfusion would >> > conflict with one from fedora repos. (It's in rpmfusion for a reason) >> > Is it

Re: hdparm -B for netbooks

2010-02-24 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Matthew Garrett wrote on 24.02.2010 22:59: > Further, it loses the settings over suspend/resume. Can we stop blaming > this on distributions now? Then why do a lot of drive load and unload frequently when running a linux-distribution but do not when running the operating system the Verndor pre-lo

Re: hdparm -B for netbooks

2010-02-24 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Matthew Garrett wrote on 23.02.2010 23:09: > On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 09:34:54PM +0100, Richard Zidlicky wrote: > >> it was my understanding that "hdparm -B" has nothing to do with the BIOS but >> changes >> the power management feature specific to the drive? > Either the drive set the initial va

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-13 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
On 13.02.2010 06:18, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 16:45 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: >> As part of no frozen rawhide, we'll have a new tree on the mirrors, >> pub/fedora/linux/development/13 That's where we'll be putting things >> that are tagged for the release after they get thr

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-04 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Kevin Kofler wrote on 03.02.2010 19:08: > Josh Boyer wrote: >> It is. It's one step removed. There were people actively wanting to make >> Zope/Plone work via a compat-python stack. It went all the way to FESCo >> and got voted down. The zope/plone users were the target audience there. >> There