Re: FESCo wants to know what you use i686 packages for

2022-03-21 Thread Stijn Hoop via devel
Hi, On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 00:57 +0100 Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Steven Ellis wrote: > > The issue on our home systems is 3rd party printer drivers. > > > > Eg > > mfc9140cdncupswrapper-1.1.4-0.i386 > > dcpj4120dwlpr-3.0.1-1.i386 > > dcpj4120dwcupswrapper-3.0.1-1.i386 > > mfc9140cdnlpr-1.1.2-

Re: FESCo wants to know what you use i686 packages for

2022-03-18 Thread Stijn Hoop via devel
Hi, On Wed, 16 Mar 2022 09:54:12 -0400 David Cantrell wrote: > If you use i686 packages for something now, please respond to this > thread. As many others, I need 32-bit printer drivers for my ~10 year old color laser: $ rpm -qa | grep i686 libgcc-11.2.1-9.fc35.i686 glibc-gconv-extra-2.34-28.fc

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-17 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 08:03:20 -0600 Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 09:07:39 +0200 > Jan Zelený wrote: > > > Any other suggestions then? Cause `pkg` would be my #1 choice. > > Personally, I think adding another name just adds another problem. > > kevin > This, please do not invent

Re: gnome software shell search provider? [Re: Is Gnome Software ready for primetime?]

2013-11-04 Thread Stijn Hoop
Hi, On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 14:23:28 +0100 Kevin Kofler wrote: > Michael Scherer wrote: > > When statistics cost you money, yeah, I think that's important to > > take them in account. Maybe your employer do not care about this, > > but I strongly suspect mine does, and I strongly suspect that most >

Re: Software Management call for RFEs

2013-05-23 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Thu, 23 May 2013 14:02:34 +0200 Jan Zelený wrote: > On 23. 5. 2013 at 10:53:10, Stijn Hoop wrote: > > I would like better integration with domain-specific package > > managers. By which I mean npm (for node.js), gem (for ruby), pip > > (for python), cpan (for perl), pecl

Re: Software Management call for RFEs

2013-05-23 Thread Stijn Hoop
Hi, I would like better integration with domain-specific package managers. By which I mean npm (for node.js), gem (for ruby), pip (for python), cpan (for perl), pecl/pear (for PHP), CRAN (for R), CTAN (for TeX), and many more I'm sure. By integrating RPM with these package managers, I feel it wou

Re: Expanding the list of "Hardened Packages"

2013-04-23 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 22:35:41 +0200 Kevin Kofler wrote: > It isn't working because it's adding hundreds of new policy bugs in > every new Fedora release. Seriously, can you please stop extrapolating from your personal usecase, and think of both the developers and actual users of the technology t

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-02-08 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 20:35:56 +0100 "Nicolas Mailhot" wrote: > > Le Ven 8 février 2013 13:22, Olav Vitters a écrit : > > On Fri, Feb 08, 2013 at 10:34:58AM +0100, Stijn Hoop wrote: > >> I am providing a datapoint that directly contradicts your original > &g

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-02-08 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Fri, 08 Feb 2013 07:47:48 +0100 Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 02/06/2013 08:42 AM, Stijn Hoop wrote: > > On Tue, 05 Feb 2013 21:46:32 +0100 > > Ralf Corsepius wrote: > >> The actual problem is the current Gnome 3 being an entirely > >> different product than

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-02-05 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Tue, 05 Feb 2013 21:46:32 +0100 Ralf Corsepius wrote: > The actual problem is the current Gnome 3 being an entirely different > product than Gnome 2, which usability-wise has *nothing* in common > with Gnome2 and addresses a completely different target audience. Ralf, could you please stop th

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-02-05 Thread Stijn Hoop
Hi, On Tue, 05 Feb 2013 19:01:49 +0800 Mathieu Bridon wrote: > On Tue, 2013-02-05 at 11:12 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > Sigh, let me try again: The Fedora project is pushing away Fedora > > users from Fedora, because Fedora/RH have missed that it's "new > > DE" (Gnome3) is addressing a differ

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: New firstboot

2013-01-30 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 14:30:04 -0800 Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 20:20 +0100, Stijn Hoop wrote: > > On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 14:07:55 -0500 > > john.flor...@dart.biz wrote: > > > > > > From: Martin Sivak > > > > the tool will be

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: New firstboot

2013-01-29 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 14:07:55 -0500 john.flor...@dart.biz wrote: > > From: Martin Sivak > > the tool will be started using systemd unit file which can be > > disabled. It will have to be explicit (even minimal install needs > > users or root password), but we can figure something out. > > In my

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Dracut HostOnly

2013-01-29 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 11:48:01 -0700 Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Jan 29, 2013, at 9:44 AM, Matthew Miller > wrote: > > > (I'm not sure if the new installer > > even has an option for password-protecting grub2, offhand.) > > It doesn't. And this seems to be an area of confusion on the two grub >

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Yum Groups as Objects

2013-01-29 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:31:33 -0500 James Antill wrote: > On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 15:04 +, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 12:58:56PM +, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > > = Features/YumGroupsAsObjects = > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/YumGroupsAsObjects > > >

Re: Ruby 2.0 in F19

2013-01-02 Thread Stijn Hoop
Hi, On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 10:59:46 +0100 Vít Ondruch wrote: > Dne 21.12.2012 20:58, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky napsal(a): > > Why don't we just ship 'rvm' or 'rbenv' and force everyone to > > manage their own Ruby environments? ;-) > > There used to be RVM in Fedora, but we dropped it, since it canno

Re: Fixing Puppet in Fedora/EPEL

2012-10-20 Thread Stijn Hoop
Hi, On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 16:29:57 -0700 Michael Stahnke wrote: > On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 4:22 PM, > Seth Vidal wrote: > > I'm less worried about the people requesting the newness b/c they > > clearly want change. I'm worried about the people who run rhel b/c > > they fear change. > > I'm more worr

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 18 Alpha is hereby declared GOLD

2012-09-17 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 21:21:00 -0700 Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2012-09-17 at 22:03 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:51:00AM +0200, Björn Persson wrote: > > > > It's cute, but I think might read a bit bizarre in isolation. > > > > 'Ready for testing' is terminally b

Re: rawhide report: 20120728 changes

2012-07-28 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 12:36:26 + Fedora Rawhide Report wrote: [...] > --- > * Fri Jul 27 2012 - Andreas Schneider - > 2:4.0.0-132.beta4 > - Don't define an Epoch in RHEL releases. May I ask why? This makes it harder to compare versions between Fedora and RHEL. I know

Re: update installation timing (was Re: Schedule for Monday's FESCo Meeting (2012-06-18))

2012-06-20 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 10:22:22 +0100 Richard Hughes wrote: > On 20 June 2012 08:08, Stijn Hoop wrote: > > I agree that mind reading computers may not be the final answer... > > Well, switching to system-update.service from a running desktop should > probably kill off everyt

update installation timing (was Re: Schedule for Monday's FESCo Meeting (2012-06-18))

2012-06-20 Thread Stijn Hoop
Hi, On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 02:22:26 + (UTC) Ben Boeckel wrote: > On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 13:19:13 GMT, Michal Hlavinka wrote: > > I wonder if it would be possible to do it on shutdown instead of > > during start up? I usually do not care if shutdown takes ten > > seconds or five minutes, but whe

Re: Important kernel update should not break stuff

2012-06-13 Thread Stijn Hoop
Hi, On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 14:15:14 +0200 Roman Kennke wrote: > Am Mittwoch, den 13.06.2012, 13:05 +0100 schrieb Johannes Lips: > > I think the reason for shipping the latest upstream kernel is based > > on the fact that backporting would be too much work. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KernelReb

Re: Stop the git abuse

2012-05-21 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Mon, 21 May 2012 13:40:55 +0200 Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 05/21/2012 12:21 PM, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > > On 05/21/12 10:23, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > >> On 05/21/2012 09:56 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > >>> - Original Message - > On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 07:07:56PM +0200, Remi Collet w

Re: rawhide compose failing?

2012-03-16 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 08:11:24 -0600 Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 14:02:39 +0100 > Stijn Hoop wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > did I miss the last two days of rawhide compose mails or are they > > failing? If so where can I check? > > http://lists

rawhide compose failing?

2012-03-16 Thread Stijn Hoop
Hi, did I miss the last two days of rawhide compose mails or are they failing? If so where can I check? Regards, --Stijn -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: /usrmove?

2012-02-07 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 06:37:33 +0100 Kevin Kofler wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: > > Note that this has not actually been implemented in anaconda yet, > > so if you do an anaconda upgrade at this time, it will explode > > horribly. The bug requesting this support be added to anaconda is > > http://

Re: Unity For Fedora (As in OpenSUSE or Arch)

2012-02-01 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 17:00:30 -0700 Adam Williamson wrote: > I realize this isn't a very constructive mail, and the point has been > raised before, but I'm hoping at some point the sheer weight of > complaints will cause someone more creative than myself to actually > come up with a notification

Re: Fedora 17’s unified filesystem (/usr-move)

2012-01-27 Thread Stijn Hoop
Hi, thanks for the detailed instructions for testing. I am not sure though, whether any of this is applicable on a system already running rawhide? Reading this, I surmise that I have to do the following steps once these packages hit rawhide. Can you comment on the correctness? > Currently instal

Re: Requesting a change to the BugStatusWorkFlow: Closed/UPSTREAM

2012-01-20 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 07:20:20 -0500 Stephen Gallagher wrote: > Well, the proposal I'm making is the one that I've been following > personally in my own projects, which I feel is providing better > service to my users. Speaking as a (mostly) user: I agree with this statement. I would rather have th

Re: mysql is now a critpath package? WTF?

2012-01-06 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 14:38:57 -0600 Rex Dieter wrote: > Stijn Hoop wrote: > > > Well it also took them two years to consider 'NFS mounted home' a > > valid use case, during which the whole 'you really need MySQL!!!' > > was broken for our site. > &

Re: mysql is now a critpath package? WTF?

2012-01-05 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 20:20:55 +0100 Kevin Kofler wrote: > Rex Dieter wrote: > > I'm of a mind to revisit this (again). > > NO, not again!!! > > Can we please stop this nonsense? > > Upstream defaults to MySQL for a reason, and strongly recommends NOT > using the SQLite backend by default. SQLit

Re: Changing kernel API / Breaking VirtualBox - update criteria violation?

2011-12-08 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Thu, 08 Dec 2011 19:02:26 +0100 Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 08.12.2011 17:04, schrieb Kevin Kofler: > > Reindl Harald wrote: > >> my only changes was compile the x264.119 and fake the so-number > >> in the sources to .102 for F13/F14 and to .114/.115 for F15 > >> and currently the .120 to 115 > >

Re: Changing kernel API / Breaking VirtualBox - update criteria violation?

2011-12-08 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Thu, 08 Dec 2011 11:07:10 +0100 Reindl Harald wrote: > but they are often way behind current versions (ffmpeg, x264, > open-vm-tools) and then throw out a new x264, rebuild all packages > depending on it and rais only from .114 to .115 is a bad joke > while .119 exists since months > > and yes

Re: Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

2011-11-08 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 13:33:00 +0100 Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Tue, 08.11.11 13:31, Stijn Hoop (st...@sandcat.nl) wrote: > > > > Well, that way attackers might still be able fool the admin: i.e. > > > he could create a directory with a service name and some > &g

Re: Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

2011-11-08 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 12:55:31 +0100 Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mon, 07.11.11 21:53, Gregory Maxwell (gmaxw...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Lennart Poettering > > wrote: > > > If run on the main namespace all they see is that the files are > > > in some randomized su

glibc updates (Re: F16: user's secondary groups ignored)

2011-10-14 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 00:36:13 -0700 Adam Williamson wrote: > Just Glibc Update Comedy Hour again. > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=745675 > > downgrade to glibc -10 fixes it. So, just to ask a rhetorical question, how does this tie in to "running rawhide is bad mmkay" again? --St

Re: Intent to package GNOME Shell frippery

2011-07-29 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 11:36:50 +0200 Tomasz Torcz wrote: > I would strongly prefer third parties not to reinvent whole > packaging and repositories concept. Some companies grasp it (I have > yum repos provided for Google Earth and Talk Plugin, Dell BIOSes and > firmwares, Adobe Flash and Air, Vir

Re: Intent to package GNOME Shell frippery

2011-07-29 Thread Stijn Hoop
Hi, On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 10:57:59 +0200 drago01 wrote: ... > Distro packaged extensions are frowned upon upstream. [citation needed] --Stijn -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: XDG and default directories (Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH)

2011-07-27 Thread Stijn Hoop
Hi, On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 12:43:09 +0200 Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Le mercredi 27 juillet 2011 à 12:26 +0200, Stijn Hoop a écrit : > > and even better is the fact that I can now put that area > > somewhere else than on our default stupidly-expensive backupped NFS > > filesyste

XDG and default directories (Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH)

2011-07-27 Thread Stijn Hoop
Hi, aside from the merits of adding ~/.local/bin, I just wanted to point out: On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 12:19:51 +0200 Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > It's all been done to make nautilus happy with "user-friendly" > "localized" names on the user desktop (aping the windows mess). And > now gnome3 people have

Re: systemd vice SysV/LSB init systems - what next ?

2011-07-19 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:06:03 +0200 Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Le mardi 19 juillet 2011 à 18:30 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" a > écrit : > > > Hum best is to provide you with example which daemon do you > > maintain I can convert it for you and provide it to you as an > > example anyway here's an