Re: F27 System Wide Change: Rsyslog log format change proposal

2017-06-23 Thread Roman Pavelka
> logcheck → needs to be checked It will break by this change. I was not able to make it work on two machines. My system is cursed and containers does not have such logs at all. Going to check on fresh VM. However I was able to dive in the code and check how it works. It is basically big collect

Re: F27 System Wide Change: Rsyslog log format change proposal

2017-06-13 Thread Roman Pavelka
On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 2:33 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > i call your infrastructure scattered around the globe the minority of setups This can be the case for Fedora but it would be not for CentOS and RHEL, where this change should head in too. > "there is a simple way to change the format if you

Re: F27 System Wide Change: Rsyslog log format change proposal

2017-06-13 Thread Roman Pavelka
On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 2:18 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> When some package will break because someone adjusted format of >> timestamps, the bug is in that package and not in the rsyslog's format > > there is a world outside packages called user scripts That is true. But here there is simple way t

Re: F27 System Wide Change: Rsyslog log format change proposal

2017-06-13 Thread Roman Pavelka
Thanks, Stephen, I will update the "Benefit to Fedora" section. > It does not inspire confidence that the person(s) proposing this Change > understand the potential fallout. ... > what packages in Fedora parse the rsyslog output and make sure that they are > capable of handling the change. Ev

Re: F27 System Wide Change: Rsyslog log format change proposal

2017-06-13 Thread Roman Pavelka
IMHO it is exactly as Björn replied to you. Between 2010 and 2014 I was working in aerospace where the exact time of an event is of the highest importance. In this field there is deep understanding (based on several hundreds-millions-dollars screwups) how much compliance to standards is importa

Re: F27 System Wide Change: Rsyslog log format change proposal

2017-06-02 Thread Roman Pavelka
Done. Thank you, Zbyszek! Roman ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: F27 System Wide Change: Rsyslog log format change proposal

2017-06-02 Thread Roman Pavelka
What was deciding factor for us was "Complex system wide changes involve system-wide defaults" in Changes/Policy. Also I consider system logging facility system-wide important. And as another Bjorn replies below, there may be packages dependent on current format. Best regards Roman ___