Hi,
noticed that esmtp "replaced" exim because of higher priority - is this
expected?
Personally I would classify esmtp as a per-user tool rather than systemwide one
and
make sure it gets lower priority than any of the traditional smtp servers.
Richard
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On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 11:17:48PM +0100, nodata wrote:
> On 25/11/10 17:24, Olaf Kirch wrote:
> >
> > Presenting wicked network configuration
> > ===
> >
> > This is the first public release of wicked, an experimental framework
> > for network configuration.
> >
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 06:28:58PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
thanks for looking at it.
> > However for some of the reports it is only the matter of someone looking
> > at them as they contain the obvious solution to the problem.
> >
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=595165
> > htt
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 06:13:51PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 01:16:42PM -0800, John Reiser wrote:
> > On 11/17/2010 12:41 PM, Emmanuel Seyman wrote:
> > > 2) Issues found in proprietary software cannot be fixed by anybody except
> > >the vendor
> > False. In this p
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 01:08:01PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 01:39:50PM +0100, Richard Zidlicky wrote:
> > after the experience that 90% of bugs filled against free software
> > get closed after the lifetime of a distribution (my subjective
> &
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 09:44:31PM +0100, Magnus Glantz wrote:
>
> Because a large part of the Fedora users, uses the flash plugin from
> Adobe, and if it does not work, they will go off and find a distribution
> where it does work. With less people using Fedora, the project becomes
> less s
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 02:03:03PM +, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On 15/11/10 13:54, Richard Zidlicky wrote:
>
> >
> > there are very good reasons to use anything but DOS-FAT. For example
> > F10 and F12 automount said filesystems with drastically different options
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:29:06AM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> This is a silly straw-man. No one[1] formats external HDs with
> anything other than MS-DOS FAT. Fedora changing the default for the
> main hard disk will not make any difference to this case of your
> contrarian user giving a
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 09:37:06AM +0100, Andrew Haley wrote:
> On 09/27/2010 10:03 PM, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
> >
> > If anything I would expect the 32bit Desktop Live torrent download
> > activity to be lower because of the promotion of the direct download
> > link of that particular iso. The spli
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 02:56:39AM +0200, jonathan MERCIER wrote:
> hello, i try create 2 package: ldc and tango.
> I have a big question where i put *.d file ?
> for C/C++ it's in /usr/include but D they are nothing
attached my ancient gcc + D(v1.x) rpm specfile.
Have not done this lately and es
On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 09:13:02PM +0800, Chen Lei wrote:
> Fedora have upstart as the /sbin/init daemon for a long time, but we
> still use the old 'SysVinit' scripts from /etc/rc.d/init.d and fedora
> packaging guideline have nothing about upstart.
>
> Is it right for the maintainer to provide
On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 11:25:56AM +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
> Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > Roberto Ragusa wrote:
> >> In recent times some stupid (IMHO) ideas have been adopted in Linux
> >> just to copy what others do. Just as examples: the control of desktop
> >> widgets in KDE4 (functional GUI el
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 05:35:04PM -0700, JD wrote:
> On x86 (32 bit) notebook:
> After running make xconfig, and make all, I got this error:
You need a completely different procedure to build fedora kernel packages.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/CustomKernel
I found the description somewha
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 11:47:47AM -0400, Genes MailLists wrote:
> On 05/15/2010 11:40 AM, Mike Chambers wrote:
>
> > Also, I changed the timeout after the install and it stays that way and
> > doesn't change back. The setting is permanently until I change it
> > again.
> >
>
> Yes it is - I t
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 05:24:26AM -0400, Matt McCutchen wrote:
> On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 11:01 +0200, Richard Zidlicky wrote:
> > More elaborate solution, there could be two config values - quicktimeout
> > and
> > safetimout.
> > After kernel and config changes
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 09:58:27AM +0200, Alexander Boström wrote:
> Long story short: There are situations where a grub menu is vital, like
> until you've successfully booted a new kernel.
of course, and I do not think it is so hard to think of a sensible behaviour.
After each (semi)automatic c
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 03:25:09PM +0100, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On 12/05/10 15:19, Richard Zidlicky wrote:
> --snip--
> >> (http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noarch.rpm
> >>
> >> and
> >> http://download1.rpmf
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 11:22:22AM +0800, Chen Lei wrote:
> 2010/5/10 Patrice Dumas
>
> > For the applications I know some comments
> > * I am quite sure that gmanedit is not a manedit evolution. However,
> > manedit
> > is orphaned right now (though still not purged).
> > * xdialog is build twi
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 11:18:54AM +0200, Matěj Cepl wrote:
> Dne 10.5.2010 06:54, Ralf Corsepius napsal(a):
> > Have you ever talked to Ubuntu/openSUSE users and listened to their
> > replies when telling them you are using Fedora?
> >
> > You will hear answers along the line of too much inconveni
On Sat, May 08, 2010 at 03:31:04PM +0200, drago01 wrote:
>
> Why?
>
> The installation DVD is for installing the system that's it.
strongly disagree. Many people do not like to spend much time during
installation
to decide which packages to install. It should be easy to do it after
installati
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 07:54:41AM +1000, Bojan Smojver wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-04-29 at 14:43 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> > It means that we will have hopefully reached a
> > point where all known release blockers¹ have been fixed and we are
> > read to compose the final release tree.
>
> Hate t
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 07:39:37AM +0100, mike cloaked wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:43 AM, Mail Lists wrote:
> > On 04/27/2010 05:58 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> >
> >
> > The OP had an issue w. thunderbird - which many find to be a pretty
> > decent mail client.
> >
> > This thread has morph
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 04:59:55PM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 17:55:39 -0400,
> Matt McCutchen wrote:
> >
> > Epiphany is a non-starter. In the default configuration, it doesn't
> > validate SSL certificates at all (bug 569577). An unbranded Mozilla
> > browser wo
Hi,
sorry for the very late test - kernel is unusable for me, appears to be the
same issue
as described here for F12:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=581605
It is one of the typical netbooks - did anyone recently test the Intel graphic
on some of those devices? It is likely that t
On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 11:26:39AM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 08:27:10 +0200,
> Remi Collet wrote:
> > See: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=565693
> >
> > Computer without floppy drive are quite common.
> > If the floppy controller is enable in BIOS (whi
Hi,
just noticed last night that noone of the recent Fedora-12 kernels "works" on
my Atom Netbook with Intel graphics - typical netbook.
I did not have the possibility to investigate and do a proper bug report yet
but
for me the most recent one that works is something 2.6.31 based and at least
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 02:27:38AM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-03-23 at 11:18 +0800, Steven James Drinnan wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I am trying to get my k3715 to work in F12 or F13. I have filled this
> > bug report https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=552456 . It
> > report
Hi,
there have been serious bugs filled and ignored against this package for ages,
see eg
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=483537
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=560053
Perhaps the maintainers did not realise the severity of the bugs - it appears
that any
nontrivial exam
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 01:49:00PM -0500, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 12:34 PM, drago01 wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Mike McGrath wrote:
> >> [...]
> >> Though, in theory, fewer updates means a higher percentage of them can be
> >> tested which means quality goes
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 09:37:49AM +0100, Till Maas wrote:
> Another possible explanation might be that the access pattern of the OS
> is different, e.g. maybe the drive is not idle long enough to unload.
> But since there is afaik no proper documentation about this issue,
> everything is just gu
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 05:08:58AM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > Yes - it's an option that's basically impossible to expose in a UI in a
> > sensible way.
>
> How so? "Spindown timeout", "Advanced power management timeout", and a
> slider with 256 entries (or 240 or what
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 10:09:39PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 09:34:54PM +0100, Richard Zidlicky wrote:
>
> > it was my understanding that "hdparm -B" has nothing to do with the BIOS
> > but changes
> > the power management feature
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 09:53:39AM +0100, Till Maas wrote:
> You have to set it manually at bootup (add it to /etc/rc.local), but
> after suspend/hibernate the values are normally restored by pm-utils
> (eventually this might happen in the kernel). In the past some devices
> needed a manual overri
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 08:18:21PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 09:10:03PM +0100, Richard Zidlicky wrote:
> > Hi,
> > What is the state of this - is some package responsible for this or is it
> > up to
> > the user to do it manualy?
>
Hi,
I have one of these netbooks that need "hdparm -B high_value" to avoid unhealthy
frequent head parking. From some archived mails I had the impression that it was
planned that gnome power manager and similar would take care of such issues -
which
does not appear to happen in my case.
What is
On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 08:43:45PM -0600, inode0 wrote:
> > http://www.linux.com/learn/docs/ldp/282996-choosing-the-best-linux-distributions-for-you
> >
> > I particularly like this:
> >
> > "Ubuntu edges out its closest contenders, Fedora and openSUSE, because its
> > development team is constant
On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 07:12:24PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Mike McGrath wrote:
> > Spins didn't help, reinstalling did.
>
> No. His problem was with switching desktop environment. It was solved by
> reinstalling with the spin for the target environment, getting the exact
> package selection
On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 06:29:33PM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 17:07 -0500, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> > An interesting note here is that target audience is of no use in deciding
> > this. KDE and GNOME aim for the same target audiences but have different
> > ideas of how to
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 09:43:09AM -0600, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> Quoting Richard Zidlicky (r...@linux-m68k.org):
> > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:11:41AM -0600, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> >
> > > > All in all I think it's a shame that the original proposal didn
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:08:25PM +, Jonathan Underwood wrote:
> 2010/1/27 Orion Poplawski :
> > I suspect a lot of our users will be similarly annoyed. This is one of
> > those kinds of tools that "just works" and so people stick with it.
>
> Well.. perhaps. OTOH people seem to have happily
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:11:41AM -0600, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> > All in all I think it's a shame that the original proposal didn't work
> > out at this time. Having binaries owned by bin:bin does have Unix (but
> > not Linux AFAIK) tradition behind it.
>
> And remounting ro doesn't let a task
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 04:10:39PM +0100, Benny Amorsen wrote:
>
> > Mounting the fs read only is much easier and safer - and has long tradition.
>
> This is not feasible as a distribution policy. You can't guarantee that
> /usr/bin is on its own partition so you can mount it read only.
of cour
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 04:01:58PM +0100, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
> Stefan Schulze Frielinghaus píše v Út 26. 01. 2010 v 11:16 +0100:
> > On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 14:48 -0600, Garrett Holmstrom wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Till Maas wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:45:26PM -
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:05:04PM +0100, Richard Zidlicky wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 03:42:47PM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> > Tony Nelson (tonynel...@georgeanelson.com) said:
> > > > > same opinion here. I have actually used this for a while, adds
> > >
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 03:42:47PM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Tony Nelson (tonynel...@georgeanelson.com) said:
> > > > same opinion here. I have actually used this for a while, adds
> > > > one more thing that needs be verified after system upgrades, not
> > > > very nice.
> > >
> > > Real
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 01:13:06PM -0500, Tony Nelson wrote:
>
> Perhaps there should be a default /sbin/ifup-local script that
> dispatches to /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-local/?
> It could contain useful comments, including that it is by default
> replaceable as its target directory
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 01:15:02PM -0500, Steve Grubb wrote:
> On Friday 22 January 2010 10:25:47 am David Malcolm wrote:
> > i.e. it seems to me like it's worth going through the Feature process
> > (either as a Feature or an Enhancement), if only to capture the standard
> > concerns there and cre
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 01:08:46PM +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> > > grep ifup-local /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-post
> > >
> >
> > Thanks for pointing that out. I was looking at ifup-post,
> > and I thought ifup-local was a script provided by the system,
> > but it seems there's no su
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 10:07:37AM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
>
>
> Le Mar 12 janvier 2010 09:29, Richard Zidlicky a écrit :
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 04:10:54PM -0800, Wes Hardaker wrote:
> >
> >> I didn't see anything in that message, however,
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 04:10:54PM -0800, Wes Hardaker wrote:
> I didn't see anything in that message, however, that lead me to any new
> thoughts on what I should test. I don't have any kernel circular
> looping reports like the one shown in the message above.
this needs to be enabled at kerne
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