Re: F38 proposal: Rpmautospec by Default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-01-04 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 10:38 AM Neal Gompa wrote: > On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 10:25 AM Chuck Anderson wrote: > > > Perhaps this can be modified to create a layout that matches dist-git? > > Probably not, because Dist-Git is a Fedora-specific thing, so I > wouldn't accept such a change in rpmde

Orphaning packages

2022-11-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi I have orphaned all the packages I used to maintain but haven't had the time to keep up with in a long time. Feel free to pick them up if you like. All the best. https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/chocolate-doom https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/gif2png https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/gh

Re: F39 proposal: Replace DNF with DNF5 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-10-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 7:14 AM Jaroslav Mracek wrote: > > DNF team has experience with replacing of YUM in Fedora and RHEL. It give > us an advantage to not repeat the same mistakes. We already know that > shipping DNF as YUM was not a good idea. > This response really doesn't clarify what

Re: status update on "ostree native containers"

2022-09-28 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 6:09 PM Colin Walters wrote: > We shipped https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/OstreeNativeContainer > in Fedora 36 and a lot has happened since then. > > One of the biggest things is that rpm-ostree now knows how to > intelligently generate reproducible "chunked" con

Re: DNF5 wants to replace regular rpms with modules

2022-09-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Fri, Sep 23, 2022 at 9:50 AM Jaroslav Mracek wrote: > Correct, the modular filtering is not yet implemented and this is the last > blocker for rawhide release. > Quick notes from what I am seeing with limiting testing using the copr repo * Performance is much better * Search seems busted,

Re: F37 Change: Signed RPM Contents (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-04-07 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 5:33 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > > I don't think we should characterize the Changes process in this way. > Fedora > is a place for experimentation, and if a proposal is rejected, it is > totally > appropriate to adjust that proposal based on feedback and re-submit. > Pa

Re: F37 Change: Deprecate Legacy BIOS (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-04-05 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 6:59 PM Kevin Kofler wrote: > > > Current owners plan to orphan some packages regardless of whether the > > proposal is accepted. > > And that is completely unacceptable blackmailing. > Blackmail is always conditional. Stating openly that someone is going to do someth

Re: Let's retire original glib and gtk+ (new report)

2022-03-07 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 11:29 AM Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Mon, Mar 7 2022 at 04:17:09 PM +, Sérgio Basto > > Hi, > > In resume glib still required for 20 packages [1], > > apart of the sweet memories that some package bring to us , any of > > these packages is needed ? or haven't

Re: unsafe systemd setup in Fedora

2022-03-03 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Wed, Mar 2, 2022 at 11:40 AM Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 08:13:15PM +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > It would probably be good to use more of those features, but you need > > to understand the service very well to know what systemd security > > features ca

Re: unsafe systemd setup in Fedora

2022-03-03 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 5:07 PM Lennart Poettering wrote: > > There have been various requests of generalizing this, and making it > available for any kind of service, not just portable services. I'd be > onboard with that actually, but there are some unanswered questions > regarding how distr

Re: unsafe systemd setup in Fedora

2022-03-03 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 9:51 AM Lennart Poettering wrote: > > Yes, opt-out would be better than opt-in, but it would be a major > compat break, UNIX software doesn't expect to be sandboxed, so if you > sandbox everything out-of-the-box you'll be drowning in bugs, and the > failure modes are not

Re: unsafe systemd setup in Fedora

2022-03-03 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 8:18 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote > > What do you mean by "global service overrides"? Currently security hardening features are opt-in. You will have to set it on a per service level. What I would prefer to see is the ability to have an opt out of hardening

Re: unsafe systemd setup in Fedora

2022-03-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Wed, Mar 2, 2022 at 12:31 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 02:28:56PM -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > Ability to modify these policies via configuration (the above one looks > > like a build config) and ability to do global overri

Re: unsafe systemd setup in Fedora

2022-02-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 2:14 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > > Systemd 250 (coming in F36), has --security-policy switch which can be > used to enable/disable some of the checks. There is no way to tell > systemd-analyze that things about a specific unit though. > Ability to modify these pol

Re: Package FFMPEG with royalty free codes (AV1, THEORA, VPX, OGG, OPUS, SPEEX, ...) for Fedora

2021-11-10 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 12:05 PM Lyes Saadi wrote: > > (Also, I just want to insist I am not pushing nor advising anyone to do > something breaking Discord's TOS without their approval, I'm just > thinking of examples of external demand for a Discord package in Fedora.) > https://fedoraprojec

Re: video meeting to discuss Matrix/Element and IRC

2020-11-19 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 7:56 PM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > > No, you don't. I've just joined a random room without any kind of > registration. Try it yourself if you don't believe me: > https://app.element.io/#/room/#lounge:privacytools.io > You are able to view it but are you a

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2020-11-11)

2020-11-13 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 5:54 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 05:46:46PM -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > I think for a community distro, having it all in a single repo is > > technically better as well because part of the problem that was being > > so

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2020-11-11)

2020-11-13 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 5:23 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > That reason was _mainly_ to erase the inside Red Hat, > community-around-the-edges distinction. That was a huge success and Fedora > wouldn't be interesting without that. But I think the _technical_ choice > was > in retrospect a mistake.

Re: Self Introduction: Boian Bonev

2020-10-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 4:57 PM Boian Bonev wrote: > > I didn't start that project, just improved it, and somehow changing the > name does not seem right to me :) > This isn't a minor change and the current name is a bit awkward and because of a shared name, you have to deal with Conflicts or

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-03 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 4:32 PM John M. Harris Jr wrote: > These "qualifiers" are important. > > 1) Yes, I did get a response, as I said in the first email. The response > showed that there weren't any issues with the kernel or core packages at > the > time it was dropped. > What you originall

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-03 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 2:14 AM John M. Harris wrote: > > None of those bugs were release blocking, and none of them meant that x86 > wouldn't boot, or that core packages didn't work > When you add so many qualifiers, you are now admitting a) you did get a response b) that things weren't perf

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 6:49 PM John M. Harris Jr wrote: >That's a link to the release announcement. Hardly the first time it was announced. It refers to x86_32 sig that was formed much earlier which itself was a response to an earlier warning that x86_32 support is going away unless people st

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
HI On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 4:54 PM John M. Harris Jr > That's not really true. When it came down to it, it was dropped while 32 > bit > Fedora still worked perfectly. I'm left with 5 systems that will never be > updated as a result. I asked for a list of issues that warranted ending 32 > bit > sup

Re: an "old-school *nix defaults" spin [was Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: swap on zram]

2020-06-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 4:40 PM Markus Larsson wrote: > > Thanks, I am well aware. That wasn't really the topic here. > If there is a repeated feeling that anyone has that a particular edition isn't what they are looking for, figuring out how to make a different set of choices is and perhaps

Re: an "old-school *nix defaults" spin [was Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: swap on zram]

2020-06-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 4:30 PM Markus Larsson wrote: > > No that doesn't help at all. It doesn't address what I wrote about many > seeing a problem for the first time when a change is suggested and that > this leads to more heated debates than needed. > I also feel alienated by the target au

Re: Self Introduction: Erich Eickmeyer

2020-01-31 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi Eric On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 6:59 PM Erich Eickmeyer wrote: > Hello all! > > I'm Erich, the current project leader of Ubuntu Studio, the > creativity-oriented flavor of Ubuntu. I've been leading that project for > the past two years. > > In order to do the Self-Contained Change Reques

Re: Git Forge Requirements: Please see the Community Blog

2020-01-31 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 10:46 AM Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > Welcome to our lives! > If it was mathematically possible to go above 100% that's how much > agreement you > would have from us. > If Red Hat is using Pagure internally, it is really odd to discuss replacing Pagure with something

Re: swap-on-ZRAM by default

2020-01-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 8:56 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > It is "upstream" in the sense that it is under the same umbrella. > There are no plans to move the code to the main repo, because it's in > rust and currently combining meson which is used for systemd proper > with rust and c

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Enable fstrim.timer by default

2019-12-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 7:43 PM John M. Harris Jr wrote: > On Friday, December 20, 2019 5:33:59 PM MST Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > No, I mean the things that actually changed between the two. "What's new" > or > so on. This looks like it's just general doc

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Enable fstrim.timer by default

2019-12-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 7:15 PM John M. Harris Jr wrote: > > > ...release notes are published on the docs site as they have always been: > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora/f31/release-notes/ > > Where are the changes from the previous release there? > Do you mean 30? https://do

Re: Announcing new anitya integration and de-orphaning process

2019-12-13 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 11:43 AM Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > `Monitoring` means: you get a bugzilla ticket > `Monitoring and scrach builds` means: you get the bugzilla ticket and an > attempt to do a scratch build for the new version > I was wondering how hard it would be to open a pull

Re: Modularity and the system-upgrade path

2019-10-16 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 9:21 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 9:17 PM Stephen Gallagher > wrote: > > > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 9:14 PM Rahul Sundaram > wrote: > > If that's the case, the most obvious way to inform you is to disallow > &g

Re: Modularity and the system-upgrade path

2019-10-16 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > Currently, our default stance has been "disallow the system upgrade if > the modules they've locked onto won't be available there". This is > based on our philosophy that ultimately "the app is what matters". > Most people don't install Linux because they enjoy clicki

Re: F27 System Wide Change: Graphical Applications as Flatpaks

2017-07-14 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 1:27 PM Matthew Miller > > How about reliable online updates of running applications as a > > benefit? > > AND the ability to roll back, to choose beta or stable streams, etc. > These are reasonably good advantages but if there isn't a seamless transition between them, it

Re: New pastebin service on paste.fedoraproject.org

2017-02-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 1:29 PM Athos Ribeiro . I am not aware > of the details on why we moved to this new paste, but I also agree that > we do not need a fancy website for that and maybe that was not the > reason we moved. > Seems pretty obvious it was done to get a more maintainable upstream p

Re: F27 System Wide Change: No More Alphas

2017-02-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 11:04 AM Gerald B. Cox > wrote: > > > So let's berate and silence someone because you thought they made "vague > accusations" > Are you saying he didn't post an accusation and refused to elaborate when asked or are you saying he did it and we should just ignore it or encou

Re: F27 System Wide Change: No More Alphas

2017-02-22 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 8:55 PM Gerald B. Cox wrote: > It gets a bit tedious to read all the feigned outrage and the continuous > aggrandisement of the Fedora Code of Conduct; it shouldn't be used as a > construct to silence debate. > Vague accusations are not a debate. Rahul ___

Re: F27 System Wide Change: No More Alphas

2017-02-22 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 5:00 AM Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 02/21/2017 01:02 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 6:42 PM Ralf Corsepius > > > > > > No. Mr. Williamson's attitude towards the Fedora community makes it >

Re: F27 System Wide Change: No More Alphas

2017-02-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 6:42 PM Ralf Corsepius > > No. Mr. Williamson's attitude towards the Fedora community makes it > impossible to answer Without details, a vague discussion adds nothing meaningful to the conversation. Rahul ___ devel mailing list

Re: F26 Self Contained Change: Container Minimal Image

2017-02-13 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 12:21 PM Matthew Miller > It is the DNF team. I have a hope that these will be fronted by a > command called "yum" which will implement close-to-full compatibility > with Yum Classic > Would be nice to have this available in general Fedora releases by default as well. The

Re: Two more concrete ideas for what a once-yearly+update schedule would look like

2016-12-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 10:25 PM Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 7:10 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > I don't see any context missing in a direct quote which I responded to. > If you believe otherwise, feel free to summarize your position and include >

Re: Two more concrete ideas for what a once-yearly+update schedule would look like

2016-12-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 9:59 PM Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > " KDE folks by and large want the updates as fast as possible. If the > GNOME folks would like > their updates to age for six months, they can just keep them in > updates-testing." > > > Obviously you missed it. Again, you have to take tha

Re: Two more concrete ideas for what a once-yearly+update schedule would look like

2016-12-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 9:33 PM Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > > Right. I understand that but the solution of letting things stay in > updates-testing for a long time isn't a great way to implement that. It an > abuse of updates-testing. > > > No one is doing that. You have to read the whole thread.

Re: Two more concrete ideas for what a once-yearly+update schedule would look like

2016-12-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 9:26 PM Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > I was just repeating what I thought was a good suggestion - which is based > upon what has > already been implemented using the current infrastructure. Reserve "new" > releases only for things > that absolutely require it and let everythin

Re: Two more concrete ideas for what a once-yearly+update schedule would look like

2016-12-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 1:23 PM Gerald B. Cox wrote: > Well, it isn't some theoretical construct... it's being done now with KDE > and has > been working just fine. It stays in updates-testing until you decide to > push it to stable. KDE > folks by and large want the updates as fast as possible.

Re: CVE-2016-8655, systemd, and Fedora

2016-12-13 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 12:00 PM Lennart Poettering > Well, some of them are pretty drastic. For example, I think it would > make a ton of sense to run all daemons where that's possible with > ProtectSystem=strict. This would make the entire directory tree > read-only for them (with the except

Re: CVE-2016-8655, systemd, and Fedora

2016-12-12 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 4:03 PM Lennart Poettering > Hmm, yeah, I should probably blog more about all the nice sandboxing > features we have now in systemd. It would be useful if we can set these type of options as system wide - for both the distribution/vendor and for admin overrides with s

Re: Fedora development of Snap packages

2016-06-15 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 11:45 AM James Hogarth wrote: > Considering how this actively negates the security of our distribution and > how this is being promoted in the media, with them pointing to the > snapcraft site and the instructions there with COPR looking like it's on > approved Fedora infra

Re: ZFS on linux

2016-01-15 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 11:42 PM, Gerald B. Cox wrote: Kevin, I don't believe that is the case in this instance. No one is > talking about mixing code. If you do have something however specifically > regarding the FSF stance on > ZFS, I'd like to read it - I've searched and haven't been able

Re: F24: no rsyslog forwarding

2015-11-06 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 12:20 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > to say it in other words: i did not ask for "probably", just pointed out > that Rawhide is currently broken, that probably systemd or probably rsyslog > is broken in the one or other direction is clear Can you file a bug report? Rahul

Re: systemd package bloat

2015-11-06 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > the same way as other packages to it? > > * see php > * see httpd > More useful if you could submit a spec file patch Rahul -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fe

Re: bodhi 2 now live

2015-08-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 4:23 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > No, sorry, but that is not true. I wrote those update notes in the Bodhi 1 > web interface, so of course I looked at the resulting formatting. Bodhi 1 > interpreted that syntax as a list, not as a single paragraph. This is a > change in Bo

Re: dnf caches

2015-04-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 1:07 PM, Pádraig Brady wrote: > My Fedora 22 system prompted me that there was a new coreutils package for > update. > Rather than clicking "restart and install" in the GUI I tried to: > > # dnf install coreutils > dnf install coreutils --refresh > # dnf --disabl

Re: yumdownloader vs dnf??????

2015-04-22 Thread Rahul Sundaram
HI On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: > I'm not volunteering! > > ...but perhaps a yum->dnf transition guide on the Fedora wiki would be > nice which would cover things like this. > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Yum_to_DNF_Cheatsheet Rahul -- devel mailing list devel@lists

Re: bodhi / fedora-easy-karma dead

2015-04-06 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > no idea where to file a ticket there > > i can show tickets and see "Fedora Account Sign Up" but no login anywhere > - Click on open id login > no idea why this is using the horrible "trac" instead bugzilla > Fedora doesn't host b

Re: dnf replacing yum and dnf-yum

2015-04-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 3:40 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > * When you run 'yum' you get: > > % sudo yum list foobar > Yum command has been deprecated, use dnf instead. > See 'man dnf' and 'man yum2dnf' for more information. > To transfer transaction metadata from yum to DNF, run 'dnf migrate' > Re

Re: F22 Self Contained Change: Disabled Repositories Support

2015-03-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 5:01 AM, Florian Weimer wrote: > > > You'd be surprised. There is apparently work under way, in the larger > Fedora ecosystem, on scriptless booting, in the name of securinity > (eventually making Android-style locked bootloaders). > Eliminating scripting from boot do

Re: F22 Self Contained Change: Disabled Repositories Support

2015-03-18 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Mike Pinkerton wrote: > > What I don't understand is the wisdom of an official Fedora "product" > endorsing a copr when either the software or packaging (or both) is not of > sufficient quality to make it into the official Fedora repo. I don't think of it a

Re: dnf and yum works different

2015-03-12 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 9:46 PM, Adrian Soliard wrote: > > Recently, I run "dnf update", then "yum update", and I notice that yum > detect 2 packages ("fros-recordmydesktop-1.0-5.fc21.noarch" and, from > adobe repo, "flash-plugin-11.2.202.451-release.x86_64"). > The case was present on two di

Re: Packages

2015-02-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 9:28 AM, Pete Travis wrote: > I'll take python-dateutil15, and see it through to retirement once the > last of the dependencies are gone. > Done. > I see you've already retired askbot - any sign from upstream that they'll > support a newer django within a reasonable

Re: Packages

2015-02-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Sereinity wrote: > > Hi, > > I will take e_dbus and evas-generic-loaders. > Done. The e* stack is quite old in Fedora now. If you or anyone else wants to keep it more current, that would be nice Rahul -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org ht

Re: Packages

2015-02-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 3:51 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > I rely on duplicity (via duply) so I'm willing to take it if no-one > else will, but I'm really no expert on duplicity per se so I might not > be the best choice. Is anyone with more experience with it willing to > take it? Limb as

Re: Packages

2015-02-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 2:25 PM, Matthias Runge wrote: > > Congrats to the new job! > > I'd take > * python-kombu > * python-gdata > * python-billiard Thanks and done. > * django-* packages should be all become retired. > I have orphaned them since they have EPEL branches. Rahul -- deve

Re: Packages

2015-02-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > > I will take deluge. > > FAS: mooninite Done Rahul -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Packages

2015-02-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi I would like to give away as many packages as I can to others who are interested. My current job keeps me pretty busy and I have been hanging on to them in hopes of finding the elusive free time that I don't get much of anymore. So if you to be a comaintainer or want to take over anything tha

Re: systemd-219 issues with 22 and Rawhide composes

2015-02-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > And seriously, Rahul Sundaram is hardly a "third party person". He's one > of the active maintainers of systemd package, which you can easily > check in the pkgdb, as well as your colleague fro

Re: systemd-219 issues with 22 and Rawhide composes

2015-02-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > How many months would you like me to notify people in advance of a > simple change like this? Isn't 6 month *ample* time? > > The problem isn't necessarily the speed of change but the amount of caution and attention paid to inform

Re: Proposal to (formally/easily) allowing multiple versions of the same library installable

2015-02-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 11:17 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > I don't buy this argument wrt. Fedora. > > Fedora is a rapid moving, forward looking distro, in which such > regressions should be fixed and not be worked around by compat-libs. In ideal conditions, this is fine but in the real world

Re: [Proposal] Ring-based Packaging Policies

2015-02-18 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi > > What is wrong with using Copr for the "ring packages". It already works > just fine (may be BZ is missing). There are no reviews, no guidelines, > you can bundle ... I believe that everybody understands that while Copr > is supported by Fedora, you are using these packages on your own risk

Re: How to become a packager (was: Re: [Proposal] Ring-based Packaging Policies)

2015-02-13 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Ian Malone wrote: > Thanks. I think when I'd looked at it I'd discounted the review and > comment on others' submissions process as it would seem to require you > to have a better idea of what you're doing than the person submitting > the package, and potentia

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Login Screen Over Wayland

2015-01-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 7:25 PM, Ian Pilcher wrote: > How does this affect users of other display managers (or does it)? > It doesn't affect them afaik. Rahul -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct:

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Set sshd(8) PermitRootLogin=no

2015-01-17 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Lubomir Rintel wrote: > For this reason, I avoid privilege escalation when I need to conduct > privileged operations, but open a separate session. The sshd daemon > running with root privileges is more trustworthy to me than my user > session. I have no idea

Re: F22 System Wide Change: RpmOstree - Server side composes and atomic upgrades

2015-01-15 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > You gain… nothing! > Kevin, If you are unaware of the gains, ask for it. Image based upgrades are very common in cloud environments I work with. It is used as alternative to configuration management in some places and it is incredibly

Re: Deleting f20-gnome-3-12 copr

2015-01-07 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > /me reiterates his usual argument that we need to have a graphical fedup > front-end in Workstation to help people upgrade when it's time... > That is kind of a basic requirement. We need to do more. We need to inform people when

Re: Ramblings and questions regarding Fedora, but stemming from gnome-software and desktop environments

2015-01-05 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 2:48 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: > I'd prefer either aday or jimmac in #gnome-design as they did most of > the original designs, but Mo and Ryan also know the UX well. > > Pinged jimmac and ryan on that channel. Rahul -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Ramblings and questions regarding Fedora, but stemming from gnome-software and desktop environments

2015-01-05 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 4:18 AM, Richard Hughes wrote: > > Also, if any UI changes need to happen, the time to talk to the > designers is NOW. Which designers? Rahul -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Con

Re: Ramblings and questions regarding Fedora, but stemming from gnome-software and desktop environments

2015-01-04 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 12:18 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > So what exactly is the problem the target audience has? They want > GNOME Packages to be included again by default so they have both an > application GUI installer, and a packages GUI installer? That is potentially one way to address i

Re: allowing programs to open ports

2015-01-04 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Björn Persson wrote: > > I bet! I worry that the questions would quickly become annoying. But if > > ports are going to be blocked by default, then there needs to be some > > way for non-sysadmin users to open them. > > No, why? The ports

Re: Ramblings and questions regarding Fedora, but stemming from gnome-software and desktop environments

2015-01-04 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Chris Murphy < wrote: > There's already an application that does this, it's GNOME > Packages or use yum/dnf. > If this was the answer, there wouldn't be so many repeated discussions about it. Users don't differentiate between say htop and geany as much as the

Re: Yet another frustration with Fedora package management

2015-01-04 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Hedayat Vatankhah wrote: > > So, I thought that maybe every package *likes* to have its specific > settings method; and therefore I proposed to have a global configuration > which configures main package manager policy. > I agree with the problem. However I do

Re: Ramblings and questions regarding Fedora, but stemming from gnome-software and desktop environments

2015-01-04 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Richard Hughes wrote: > We're not filtering out packages that don't qualify as applications. > GNOME Software only searches the AppStream metadata Yes. My suggestion was to change that Rahul -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.

Re: Ramblings and questions regarding Fedora, but stemming from gnome-software and desktop environments

2015-01-03 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 6:20 PM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > We may have been too aggressive in removing it. I think we could include > it by default if it had a first-run dialog that briefly explains what a > package is, and that package management is an advanced tool for system > administrato

Re: Ramblings and questions regarding Fedora, but stemming from gnome-software and desktop environments

2014-12-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Ian Malone wrote: > > Minor correction, CentOS is unbranded RHEL and Fedora is not RHEL > upstream (so far as I am aware anyway). > That is incorrect. Fedora is upstream for RHEL and therefore upstream for CentOS as well albeit, one step removed. Rahul -- d

Re: Why isn't F2FS support in the Kernel?

2014-12-22 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > If no one else was using this, that would be another thing. You're also > making up rules that weren't applied to other products which are included > in Fedora; > It applies to filesystems enabled in Fedora. Someone has to do the w

Re: Why isn't F2FS support in the Kernel?

2014-12-22 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > The XFStest scenario assumes that Fedora is being somewhat innovative... > in this instance we're not. We're playing catch-up. > The horse has already left the barn. The longer we delay, the sillier we > look. The requirement is obvio

Re: Why isn't F2FS support in the Kernel?

2014-12-22 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > Well, I don't think the majority of folks would agree that F2FS is "some > random filesystem". > You'll either turn it on, or explain why not. The community can then > judge for themselves. > That is not how it works. The default po

Re: Cinnamon Spin

2014-12-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Dan Book wrote: > Hello, > I have put together a basic Cinnamon Live spin, and was wondering if this > is something people would like to see become official. It's not ready for > submission quite yet, there is a bit of a hack to change the default > gtk-theme

Re: F21 downloads repository metadata in 3 places!

2014-12-14 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 5:17 AM, Sudhir Khanger wrote: > > DNF > regularly downloads cache, disables delta RPM support, and doesn't support > local repos. > With the latest dnf update, Delta RPM support is enabled again. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/dnf-0.6.3-2.fc21,dnf-plugins-c

Re: "Workstation" Product defaults to wide-open firewall

2014-12-12 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:49 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote: > > Is there an upvote mechanism for that? I'd like to join the chorus if I > can. ;-) > No. Voting is limited to FESCo members. However, if you feel you have something more to add than the in-numerous responses already in this

Re: Poll: How users use DNF

2014-12-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 7:19 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote: > I have yet to port my scripts (https://bitbucket.org/znmeb/osjourno) > from 'yum' to 'dnf'. I'm not sure I am going to unless the live ISO > creation tools also switch. But I have tried both 'dnf' and 'yum' > manually during the F

Re: How many users does Fedora have?

2014-12-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 11:11 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > > Okay, this seems like a good start. What _are_ the right questions? * Which packages are part of the default installation for various products or spins that users actively remove? * Which packages are not part of the installation t

Re: Entire process's environment attached to bugzillas by ABRT

2014-11-30 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Lars Seipel wrote: > > > There's also OpenNebula (^ONE_) and Vmware (^VI_) doing the same. Seems > to be pretty common with virt and cloud stuff. Apart from that I can't > think of anything else right now. Rackspace, DigitalOcean, Google Computing Engine etc

Re: Abotu setting 'PermitRootLogin=no' in sshd_config

2014-11-22 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi > Yes, true. We need to talk to them about it yet; still in the process. > And that's why I was wondering if it needs to be a fully fledged feature? > or just talking to upstream maintainers would do it? > I would suggesting going through the feature process. Although the config file chang

Re: Abotu setting 'PermitRootLogin=no' in sshd_config

2014-11-22 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 7:24 AM, P J P wrote: > > Yes, we'll ensure that noone is locked out of their systems after a fresh > install or upgrade. > This seems pretty tricky to ensure. Anaconda doesn't enforce an additional user because that could be done via the initial setup or gnome init

Re: RFC: xserver update strategy in F21+

2014-11-17 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: My opinion is strongly in line with Kevin, but Chris has a good point. > However, isn't it possible to have both. I'm not familiar with the > proprietary drivers other than knowing that the NVidia one is available > through rpmfusion. (Out of t

Re: No more deltarpms by default

2014-11-07 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 1:19 AM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo on f21 has > metadata_expire=6h > I was looking at dnf since the discussion is about dnf > and the metadata right now for f21 updates is an empty repo with no > packages in it f20 updates repo >

Re: Note on 'systemd-216-9'

2014-11-05 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 7:06 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > The subject of point releases hasn't come up before. Actually I > haven't had *any* communication about the stable branches since they > were created apart from a few patches backported by other systemd > maintainers. If t

Re: Note on 'systemd-216-9'

2014-11-04 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 08:30:32AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > systemd "216-9" is not built from 216 at all, it is in fact systemd-217 > > Why the misleading version number? > More importantly, why is this pushed so late in the r

dnf wants to install new packages when one tries to remove some

2014-11-03 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi Just a heads up since I have run into this twice in a span of few days. It probably makes sense from the satsolver perspective but I found it pretty surprising behavior. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1154202 Rahul -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://adm

Re: Requiring all files in /usr to be world-readable?

2014-11-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 6:38 PM, Steve Grubb wrote: > Today's guru meditation: He who lives in glass house should not throw > stones. > Zen note: If the stones hit other glasses, fix that problem anyway. Rahul -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.

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