Re: Retiring python-nose from Fedora 43+

2025-01-11 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 3:46 PM Michel Lind wrote: > > On Mon, 2025-01-06 at 12:45 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I propose we retire python-nose from Fedora 43+ immediately after > > branching. > > > > The package has been deprecated for 5 years: > > > >https://fedoraproject.or

Re: Epel8 build with python > 3.6?

2024-08-02 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, Jul 16, 2024 at 12:19 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 16. 07. 24 17:08, Mark E. Fuller via devel wrote: > > But the magic switch I need appears to be: > > > > %global __python3 /usr/bin/python3.12 > > And: > > %global python3_pkgversion 3.12 > > Some packages successfully build without this

Re: Spec file using github repo - not tarball

2024-05-09 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 4:36 PM Kenneth Goldman wrote: > > Is it possible for a .spec file to clone a github.com repo rather than > download a tarball? Can someone link to a working example? Git clones are bulky, with the entire history of a project rather than merely the state of the repo at the

Re: LLVM Packaging Ideas for Fedora 41

2024-04-27 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Apr 27, 2024 at 12:35 AM Tom Stellard wrote: > > Hi, > > After each Fedora release we do a retrospective with the LLVM package > maintainers > and talk about how we can improve the LLVM packages[1] in Fedora. We've come > up > with some ideas for Fedora 41 that we'd like to share to rai

Re: F40 Change Proposal: F40 Change Proposal: Unify /usr/bin and /usr/sbin (System-Wide)

2024-01-28 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
nsumed thousands if not millions of man-hours of sysadmin time since UNIX was invented. Nico Kadel-Garcia -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of

Re: Orphaning python-flit

2024-01-25 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 6:43 PM Maxwell G wrote: > > On Thu Jan 25, 2024 at 20:34 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > Hello. > > Hi Miro, > > Thanks for the announcement! > > > Now when python-flit-core has been split out of python-flit, I do no longer > > have a use-case for python-flit and hence I ha

Re: python3-PyPDf2 -> python3-pydf package

2023-08-27 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Aug 27, 2023 at 5:39 AM Sandro wrote: > > On 27-08-2023 06:33, Globe Trotter via devel wrote: > > I am the maintainer of python-PyPDF2 for Fedora (which I do since I > > was interested in pdf-stapler that I also maintain as a consequence). > > For a while now, upstream has been wanting all

Re: F39 proposal: Perl 5.38 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-07-31 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 8:34 AM Xiaojie Chen wrote: > > Hi,I am interesting in the upgrading of perl. Where can I find the detailed > process of upgrading and building Perl, including the entire build steps, the > list of built RPM packages, and the building order of Perl module packages? Out o

Re: DNF5-5.0.1 has a stable API

2023-07-28 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 4:43 PM Chuck Anderson wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 02:08:25PM -0400, Stephen Smoogen wrote: > > Personally I would have preferred to call this a new tool versus trying to > > use dnf name still. It makes it clearer that the break is going to happen. > > I propose "qz

Re: UW-IMAP

2023-06-29 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 9:18 AM Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: > > W dniu 29.06.2023 o 14:57, David Both pisze: > > I have noticed that uw-imap is no longer in the Fedora repo and that the > > last was F33. I like it far better than the other options because it is > > the IMAP server that best "does on

Re: Is there a chance to phase out `/lib64` directory?

2023-06-27 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 5:02 AM Vít Ondruch wrote: > > I don't think that GCC is always the best example to follow. > > Nevertheless, wouldn't it be worth of phasing out the /lib64? I don't > know what is the history behind, but I don't think this layout is > conceptual. > > > Vít Until, and unle

Re: Proposal: drop delta rpms (for real this time)

2023-03-03 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Mar 3, 2023 at 7:06 AM Geraldo Simião Kutz wrote: > > Testing F38 KDE spin today, I see this: > Delta RPMs reduced 235.2 MB to 23.8 MB (89.9%) > > So, it seems we do still have some cornercases when deltaRPM shows its value. Not really. That's local dis, but the aggregate burden of regula

Re: Willing to unretire package: rust-starship

2023-02-17 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 10:17 AM Maxwell G wrote: > > On Fri Feb 17, 2023 at 08:37 -0500, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 7:51 AM Andreas Schneider wrote: > > > It downloads packages from the internet and doesn't use system rust > > > pack

Re: Willing to unretire package: rust-starship

2023-02-17 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 7:51 AM Andreas Schneider wrote: > > On Wednesday, 30 November 2022 18:43:50 CET Mauricio Teixeira wrote: > > Fabio, > > Hi Fabio, > > > What is so bad about the COPR package that can't be used in the main repo? > > It downloads packages from the internet and doesn't use sy

Re: When is dnf5 going to replace dnf4?

2023-01-28 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 8:31 PM Reon Beon via devel wrote: > > Are there still some outstanding bugs preventing this from happening? Is there any one critical feature that justifies the update? Avoiding the requirement of python is... OK, maybe understandable, but I don't see it as a "must-have"

Re: Proposal: dnf should offer to update all of the dependencies of any package installed or updated

2023-01-28 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 1:23 PM Gordon Messmer wrote: > > On 2023-01-28 00:14, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > If there is a problem with not uodating dependencies when you do an > > install or an update on selected packages, the packages dependencies > > are not properly defined. > > > By definition,

Re: F38 proposal: Shorter Shutdown Timer (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-30 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 12:02 PM Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 12:59:19AM -0500, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 28, 2022 at 7:01 AM Ralf Corsépius wrote: > > > > > > Am 28.12.22 um 11:49 schrieb Peter Boy: > > > > >

Re: F38 proposal: Shorter Shutdown Timer (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-29 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
down gracefully, but risk the upstream server if clients are forcefully shut down. Nico Kadel-Garcia ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https:

Re: Macro expanded on comment?

2022-12-29 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
line, I should use %dnl? When I do things like this, I also replace '%" with "%%" at every instance within the commented out line to avoid just this issue. I do the same thing in %changelog. You may find this to be more effective.

Re: Review Request: ImageMagick7

2022-12-06 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Dec 3, 2022 at 5:57 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > On 03/12/2022 00:30, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > The proposal now is to keep ImageMagick 6 and make a new package with > > ImageMagick 7 , when we have all applications use only ImageMagick 7, > > we move the sources from ImageMagick7

Re: Troubleshooting EPEL 8 build

2022-09-13 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 3:56 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 3:36 PM Ron Olson wrote: > > > > Unfortunately I can’t get that rhel+epel8 to work, as it complains “ERROR: > > /etc/pki/entitlement is not a directory is subscription-manager > > installed?”. I went through all the o

Re: F39 proposal: Replace DNF with DNF5 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-09-08 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 8:27 AM Milan Crha wrote: > > On Thu, 2022-09-08 at 12:20 +0200, Jaroslav Mracek wrote: > > DNF5 is completely a different component. It does not depend like > > microdnf on Python. DNF plugins are not compatible with DNF5. There > > will be changes in commands, options, out

Re: Help needed with Python fc36 build failing

2022-09-07 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, Sep 6, 2022 at 10:52 AM Michael J Gruber wrote: > > > On Mon, Sep 5, 2022 at 2:01 PM Sandro > > > pyproject does not work well, and is not backwards compatible. This is > > particularly a problem for EPEL ports from Fedora. Personally, I'd > > like to see it fixed for EPEL before relying

Re: Help needed with Python fc36 build failing

2022-09-05 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Sep 5, 2022 at 2:01 PM Sandro wrote: > Thank you, Miro, for the explanation and the pull request. I remember > switching away from setup.cfg after being told that pyproject.toml is > the way forward. I must have missed the fact that this required a newer > minimum version of setuptools.

Re: GTK 2 removal from RHEL 10+

2022-08-30 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 2:05 AM Tomáš Popela wrote: > > Hi Sérgio, > > Dne so 27. 8. 2022 21:53 uživatel Sérgio Basto napsal: >> >> As Kevin Kofler (more or less) wrote in "Pcre Deprecation" thread, >> maybe we should be prepared to support pcre-1 forever and IMO we also >> can extend the concept

Re: future of dual booting Windows and Fedora, redux

2022-07-28 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 9:16 PM Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Chris Murphy wrote: > > Summary: Windows 10/11 increasingly enables Bitlocker (full disk > > encryption) out of the box with the encryption key sealed in the TPM. > […] > > The Bitlocker encryption key is unsealed only if the boot c

Re: future of dual booting Windows and Fedora, redux

2022-07-28 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 4:07 PM Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Chris Murphy wrote: > > a. Fix GRUB by giving it the ability to modify UEFI NRAM "bootnext" value, > > so that instead of chainloading the Windows bootloader from GRUB, GRUB > > will modify the system NVRAM such that the next boot (

Re: F37 proposal: Deprecate openssl1.1 package (System-Wide Change)

2022-06-24 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 5:14 AM Dmitry Belyavskiy wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2022 at 11:02 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: >> >> On 22. 06. 22 21:05, Vipul Siddharth wrote: >> > We are going to deprecate openssl1.1 package, stop shipping the >> > corresponding devel package, and stop respecting crypto

Re: ansible-core license change and update (Re: `ansible` Package License Change)

2022-06-23 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
her ansible-core requirements, such as the python38-resolvelib update and python38-pbr. I've tried before to assemble the credentials and permissions to build EPEL packages myself, but have been balked so far by the variety of registration requirements. I'm willing to put those in my

Re: [HEADS UP] Fedora 37 Python 3.11 rebuilds to start in a side tag early next week

2022-06-19 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 2:50 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > > On 18. 06. 22 2:33, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Sat, 2022-06-18 at 00:31 +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > Interesting bugzillas: > > fedpkg: FTBFS in Fedora Rawhide with bodhi-client 6: Failed to establish > a ne

Re: Fedora Copr - EPEL-9 buildroot

2022-06-10 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 3:32 PM David Sommerseth wrote: > > > Hi, > > I've been trying to complete the OpenVPN 3 Linux v18_beta release in my > Fedora Copr repository for EPEL-9. But there seems to be something odd > going on here. I tried to reach out on IRC earlier today but didn't get > much f

Re: Fedora Copr - EPEL-9 buildroot

2022-06-10 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Jun 10, 2022 at 4:18 AM Michael J Gruber wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 3:32 PM David Sommerseth > wrote: > > > > I'm surprised that the EPEL 9 chroots haven't switched to RHEL 9 yet. > > We've had RHEL 9 + EPEL 9 configs for almost a month now... > > > > Pavel, do you know when they

Re: Intent to retire containerd in EPEL 7 and co-maintainer request

2022-06-09 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 6:55 PM Stewart Smith via devel wrote: > > Maxwell G via devel writes: > > Hi everyone, > > > > I have been de-facto maintaining containerd in Fedora as a member of the go- > > sig for a little while now, as the previous maintainer no longer has time to > > do. In addition

Re: F37 proposal: Build all JDKs in Fedora against in-tree libraries and with static stdc++lib (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-05-28 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 2:53 PM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > On 28/05/2022 19:31, drago01 wrote: > > That's incorrect. They can be outdated, but there is no inherit reason > > why they have to be. > > Most upstreams don't care about bundled libraries. They bundle them once > and then forget

Re: Fwd: ImageMagick in EPEL 8

2022-05-27 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 3:01 PM Sérgio Basto wrote: > I'm going change this thread to epel-devel , > > On Fri, 2022-05-27 at 11:40 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > > Shared message to address an issue below. > > > Forwarded Message > Subject: ImageMagick in EPEL 8 > Date: Wed,

Re: What happened to umask?

2022-05-20 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 9:08 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 8:13 PM Owen Taylor wrote: > > > > For years, Red Hat Linux / Fedora systems have had a umask of 0002 for > > regular users as part of the "user private group" scheme [*]. Basically the > > idea is that you can set a

Re: How much free space in /var is required for upgrades?

2022-05-16 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 2:55 PM Dusty Mabe wrote: > > > > On 5/16/22 12:10, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 3:20 PM przemek klosowski via devel > > > > > > >> Unfortunately, I believe that the current upgrade workflow requires a > >> root disk three times the total installed packag

Re: How much free space in /var is required for upgrades?

2022-05-16 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 12:14 PM Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 8:07 AM Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > An in-place system upgrade is not an "unexpected event". It is a risky > > transaction. > > > > The big space pig is not /var/lib/rpm: it&

Re: How much free space in /var is required for upgrades?

2022-05-16 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 6:39 AM Panu Matilainen wrote: > > On 5/13/22 21:54, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > > So I went to do a dnf system-upgrade from F35 to F36 on a test machine, > > as part of my usual testing. In the middle of the process, it appears > > that /var filled up and that left the

Re: How much free space in /var is required for upgrades?

2022-05-14 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
Ooops: forgot the awk statement: dnf clean all --enablerepo=* dnf check-update | grep '^[a-zA-Z0-0]' | awk '{print $1}' |while read name; do dnf update "$name" -y done On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 8:35 AM Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > On

Re: How much free space in /var is required for upgrades?

2022-05-14 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 2:54 PM Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > > So I went to do a dnf system-upgrade from F35 to F36 on a test machine, > as part of my usual testing. In the middle of the process, it appears > that /var filled up and that left the system in an unfortunate state. > Surprisingly (t

Re: RHEL and CentOS specific Requires in spec file

2022-05-10 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 12:28 PM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > On 10/05/2022 18:00, Ben Beasley wrote: > > Could you please elaborate on why this form is better? > > For building on RHEL without EPEL being enabled. > > > At minimum, “%if 0%{?rhel} && 0%{?rhel} == 8” is exactly equivalent to

Re: Ancient Puppet version in EPEL-7: remove it?

2022-04-29 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Apr 28, 2022 at 11:49 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 28, 2022 at 11:38 PM Demi Marie Obenour > wrote: > > > > On 4/28/22 07:09, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 9:08 PM Demi Marie Obenour > > > wrote: > > >>

Re: Ancient Puppet version in EPEL-7: remove it?

2022-04-28 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 9:08 PM Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > > On 4/27/22 07:40, Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 09:03:45PM -0500, Carl George wrote: > >> On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 1:25 PM Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hello everyone, > >>> > >>> Th

Re: Ancient Puppet version in EPEL-7: remove it?

2022-04-26 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 2:10 PM Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > There is an ancient version of Puppet in EPEL-7. Version 3.6 has been > EOL for ages now. https://binford2k.com/2016/11/22/puppet-3.x-eol/ has a > nice EOL overview: > > * Puppet 3 - 2016-12-31 > * Puppet 4 -

Re: F37 Change: Curl-minimal as default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-03-10 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 6:41 AM Paul Howarth wrote: > > On Thu, 10 Mar 2022 12:26:54 +0100 > Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > > On 10/03/2022 11:55, Alex wrote: > > > May I suggest to leave at least the telnet protocol in curl-minimal > > > for debugging purposes. > > > > Telnet is an extremel

Re: Orphaning deltarpm

2022-03-06 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Mar 6, 2022 at 8:51 AM Jonathan Dieter wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I'm orphaning deltarpm because, as it's currently used in Fedora, it's > not very effective, bugs keep getting opened against it because it's > not working as well as it should (mostly an infra issue as opposed to a > probl

Re: Retire openCOLLADA?

2022-01-29 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
"uninitalized variables" is generally easy to fix in the source code. Has the author dropped the project, the last update in the github repo is frm at least 3 years ago. On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 4:28 PM Richard Shaw wrote: > > It seems to fail with gcc 12 due to uninitialized variables. That's eas

Re: is there an offshoot or branch of early Fedora for simple UI

2022-01-09 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 6:58 PM Peter Boy wrote: > > > > > Am 10.01.2022 um 00:25 schrieb Nico Kadel-Garcia : > > > > ... it has gotten out of hand. > > Indeed. When Gnome 3 hit Fedora years ago, I tried hard, but then decided > heavy heartedly to switch all

Re: is there an offshoot or branch of early Fedora for simple UI

2022-01-09 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 6:02 PM Peter Boy wrote: > > Am 09.01.2022 um 23:43 schrieb None Business : > > > > I use(d) fedora to run my IDEs ( c++), now it is all floating-contracting > > windows , with gazilion 'drag-your-window' nonsense . I guess I am not cool > > enough to use this clusterfu..

Re: F36 Change: Relocate RPM database to /usr (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-01-08 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
ng it at boot time running at the same time other RPM updates. I do hope the scripting will exit gracefully if /usr overflows or is unwriteable for other reasons, such as being part of the "immutable" Linux concept. Nico Kadel-Garcia On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 8:30 PM Chris Murphy wrote: &g

Re: F36 Change: Relocate RPM database to /usr (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-01-08 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 7:53 PM Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 7:53 AM Fabio Valentini wrote: > > > > On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 3:39 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 8:58 AM Fabio Valentini > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 4:03 PM Ben Cott

Re: Is it okay to use /usr/bin/python again?

2022-01-04 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 2:34 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > On 04/01/2022 19:36, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > #!/usr/bin/env python3 > > Forbidden by Python guidelines too. Can you point to where that is forbidden? Because it remains quite popular for various working

Re: Is it okay to use /usr/bin/python again?

2022-01-04 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 8:11 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 04. 01. 22 13:57, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > On 04/01/2022 11:09, Florian Weimer wrote: > >> We have some scripts that are dual Python 2/Python 3, and Fedora tooling > >> forced us to carry a downstream-only patch to replace /usr/b

Re: F36 Change: DIGLIM (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-12-31 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 3:32 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > On 30/12/2021 12:58, Roberto Sassu wrote: > > This has not been decided yet, but likely the Fedora kernel will > > contain the official Fedora keys, and the user will decide to add > > new keys (including those from COPR). > > 1.

Re: F36 Change: Relocate RPM database to /usr (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-12-29 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 3:36 PM Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > > On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 at 13:51, Gordon Messmer wrote: >> >> On 12/29/21 09:59, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: >> > The modern day case where /usr is read-only is inside a container and >> > you put an overlay or using some sort of lin

Re: F36 Change: Relocate RPM database to /usr (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-12-29 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 12:48 PM Gordon Messmer wrote: > > On 12/29/21 07:26, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > On 29/12/2021 16:01, Ben Cotton wrote: > >> Currently, the RPM databases is located in `/var`. Let's move it to > >> `/usr`. The move is already under way in rpm-ostree-based > >> inst

Re: F36 Change: DIGLIM (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-12-29 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 1:35 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 11:03 AM Stephen Snow wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2021-12-29 at 06:38 -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > With Windows 11, they're *mandatory*. Corporate policies now > > > effectively *require* TPM-based mechanisms *in addition*

Re: F36 Change: DIGLIM (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-12-29 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 6:39 AM Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 6:06 AM Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > > > On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 5:42 AM Roberto Sassu via devel > > wrote: > > > > > > > From: Nico Kadel-Garcia [mailto:nka...@gmail.com]

Re: F36 Change: DIGLIM (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-12-29 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 5:42 AM Roberto Sassu via devel wrote: > > > From: Nico Kadel-Garcia [mailto:nka...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2021 10:29 AM > > [...] > > > From one of the patches: > > > > It accomplishes this ta

Re: F36 Change: DIGLIM (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-12-29 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 8:07 PM Samuel Sieb wrote: > > On 12/28/21 16:45, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 4:35 AM Mattia Verga via devel > > wrote: > >> > >> Il 28/12/21 04:28, Kevin Kofler via devel ha scritto: > >>> But ev

Re: F36 Change: DIGLIM (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-12-28 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
all any software they want, it > is about preventing unwanted/unsolicited/malevolent software from being > installed without user (admin) approval. This looks like pure DRM. While there are security benefits to controlling access to data or to executables, doing so deep in the kernel takes

Re: F36 Change: DIGLIM (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-12-27 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
o F36? How about 3rd party > repositories? It wouldn't be the first time software has been deliberately broken by well-intended kernel security changes. Remember when systemd decided to cancel all backgrounded processes belong to a user when they logged out, breaking "screen" and &

Re: Is it possible to find out which packages were used when building the package?

2021-12-18 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 4:38 PM Mikhail Gavrilov wrote: > > Thanks, for answer. I build every day rpm packages from git locally with > mock. And every build erases the contents of the `/var/lib/mock`. I did not > save build log and I suppose that the rpm package itself does not contain > inform

Re: Mock v2.16 release, mock-core-configs v36.4

2021-12-18 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
I see there is a more specific thread where just these issues have been discussed. I'll take this over to https://github.com/rpm-software-management/mock/issues/755 . to avoid cluttering a general Fedora maliling list. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@list

Re: About how Go is updated in Fedora

2021-12-18 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 3:35 AM Alejandro Saez Morollon wrote: > > > > On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 5:01 AM Matthew Miller > wrote: >> >> On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 02:22:24PM +0100, Alejandro Saez Morollon wrote: >> > A hypothetical new release cycle would look like this: >> > >> >- Fedora N releas

Re: Mock v2.16 release, mock-core-configs v36.4

2021-12-18 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 6:14 PM Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > Dne 18. 12. 21 v 22:09 Nico Kadel-Garcia napsal(a): > > Discarding RHEL 7 and CentOS 7 for > > EPEL, and by implication Amazon Linux 2, will discourage people > > further from using RHEL based releases at all

Re: Mock v2.16 release, mock-core-configs v36.4

2021-12-18 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 8:03 AM Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 4:16 AM Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > > > On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 1:55 PM Pavel Raiskup wrote: > > > > > > Hello! > > > > > > I'm glad I can announce that

Re: Recent python-pytest-cov update in F34/F35 causes many FTBFS

2021-12-17 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 3:54 PM Ben Beasley wrote: > > It looks like python-pytest-cov was recently updated to 3.0.0 in F35[1] > and F34[2]. I noticed this because, between my own packages and those > maintained through @neuro-sig, I saw a wave of FTBFS notifications from > Koschei. It's been scr

Re: Mock v2.16 release, mock-core-configs v36.4

2021-12-17 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 1:55 PM Pavel Raiskup wrote: > > Hello! > > I'm glad I can announce that we have a new release of Mock. See the full > release notes [1]. The major change that happened is the removal of > 'epel-8' config files, as a follow-up for [2] discussion (and of course on > *devel

Re: rpm bug for multiple README.md or LICENSE.md in EPEL 8 and Fedora

2021-12-07 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 11:21 AM Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > The thing is, the path stripping of %doc path/to/README is a feature. The > directory path in the sources is not necessarily useful to replicate in the > installed documentation directory. Removing that path stripping would be an > i

Re: rpm bug for multiple README.md or LICENSE.md in EPEL 8 and Fedora

2021-12-07 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 5:46 AM Panu Matilainen wrote: > > On 12/5/21 05:07, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > I've been trying to bundle the current ansible-5.0.1 release as an RPM > > for Fedora and EPEL use. Leaving aside the peculiar decisions to > > replace the pypi

Re: rpm bug for multiple README.md or LICENSE.md in EPEL 8 and Fedora

2021-12-06 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 8:09 PM Maxwell G wrote: > > On Monday, December 6, 2021 6:43:57 PM CST Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 3:59 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel > > wrote: > > > > > > On 05/12/2021 04:07, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > &

Re: rpm bug for multiple README.md or LICENSE.md in EPEL 8 and Fedora

2021-12-06 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 3:59 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > On 05/12/2021 04:07, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > This breaks building RPMs for EPEL 8 or Fedora, because the '%doc' and > > '%license' macros strip off the subdirectories of the files and &

Re: New openssh in Rawhide can't connect to RHEL 6 servers

2021-12-05 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Dec 5, 2021 at 8:15 AM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > openssh 8.8p1 (just released in Rawhide) cannot connect to older > servers. The error is: > > Unable to negotiate with [server] port 22: no matching host key type found. > Their offer: ssh-rsa,ssh-dss > > It seems like the cut-off po

Re: rpm bug for multiple README.md or LICENSE.md in EPEL 8 and Fedora

2021-12-05 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Dec 5, 2021 at 10:51 AM Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > The webkit2gtk3 package has a %add_to_license_files macro that you can > copy as a workaround, but you might not be satisfied because it > requires listing each affected file individually I have no moral issue with listing them indi

Re: rpm bug for multiple README.md or LICENSE.md in EPEL 8 and Fedora

2021-12-04 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Dec 5, 2021 at 1:49 AM Otto Urpelainen wrote: > > Nico Kadel-Garcia kirjoitti 5.12.2021 klo 5.07: > > I've been trying to bundle the current ansible-5.0.1 release as an RPM > > for Fedora and EPEL use. Leaving aside the peculiar decisions to > > replace the py

Re: rpm bug for multiple README.md or LICENSE.md in EPEL 8 and Fedora

2021-12-04 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
Aarggh, I had a cat attacking my hands at one moment. I meant: /usr/share/doc/%}package}-%{version}/README.md /usr/share/doc/%{package}-%{version}/LICENSE.md On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 10:07 PM Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > I've been trying to bundle the current an

rpm bug for multiple README.md or LICENSE.md in EPEL 8 and Fedora

2021-12-04 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
I've been trying to bundle the current ansible-5.0.1 release as an RPM for Fedora and EPEL use. Leaving aside the peculiar decisions to replace the pypi.org "ansible" tarball with a tarball of roughly 150 modules from the "ansiblee-collections" repos, and moving the actual ansible software to a dis

Re: /usr/bin/ld.so as a symbolic link for the dynamic loader

2021-12-02 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 1:39 PM Florian Weimer wrote: > > I'd like to provide an ld.so command as part of glibc. Today, ld.so can > be used to activate preloading, for example. Compared to LD_PRELOAD, > the difference is that it's specific to one process, and won't be > inherited by subprocesses—

Re: [EPEL-devel] Mock/Copr default epel-8-* configuration to be changed

2021-11-28 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:06 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 2:02 PM Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > > > On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 8:26 AM Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 6:19 AM Nico Kadel-Garcia > > > wrote: &g

Re: [EPEL-devel] Mock/Copr default epel-8-* configuration to be changed

2021-11-28 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
@Miroslav Suchý asked me to sum up my suggestions for using internal mirrors more clearly, So, adding to his published Google Doc: 5 - Use internal RHEL mirrors. It's difficult to license multiple RHEL releases and enable multiple yum dnf or yum channels and supported RHEL or CentOS releases and

Re: GitHub source URLs not working

2021-11-26 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 5:50 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 11:30 PM Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > > > It's also Friday right after Thanksgiving, "Black Friday". And most > > python modules .spec files, which use pypi.org as their so

Re: GitHub source URLs not working

2021-11-26 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 4:39 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: > > Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 8:37 PM Susi Lehtola > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I am experiencing problems updating packages employing GitHub source > > URLs. For instance, > > > > $ spectool -g python-pyscf.spec > > Downloading: > > https://g

Re: [EPEL-devel] Mock/Copr default epel-8-* configuration to be changed

2021-11-25 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 8:26 AM Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 6:19 AM Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > > > On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 3:05 AM Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > > > > > Dne 22. 11. 21 v 15:00 Pavel Raiskup napsal(a): > > > > Hello

Re: [EPEL-devel] Mock/Copr default epel-8-* configuration to be changed

2021-11-25 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 3:05 AM Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > Dne 22. 11. 21 v 15:00 Pavel Raiskup napsal(a): > > Hello Fedora EPEL maintainers! > > > > First I don't feel comfortable announcing this, I'm not happy about the > > situation and so I don't want to be the lightning rod :-). But I believe

Re: [EPEL-devel] Mock/Copr default epel-8-* configuration to be changed

2021-11-23 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 9:16 PM Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > Neither of those have much track history. > > Of course they don't. How can they, when CentOS had stolen their show for > years and the sudden "change of directions&q

Re: [EPEL-devel] Mock/Copr default epel-8-* configuration to be changed

2021-11-23 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 7:31 PM Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Pavel Raiskup wrote: > > First I don't feel comfortable announcing this, I'm not happy about the > > situation and so I don't want to be the lightning rod :-). But I believe > > that we can come to acceptable Copr/Mock solution and

Re: Mock/Copr default epel-8-* configuration to be changed

2021-11-22 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 9:01 AM Pavel Raiskup wrote: > > Hello Fedora EPEL maintainers! > > First I don't feel comfortable announcing this, I'm not happy about the > situation and so I don't want to be the lightning rod :-). But I believe > that we can come to acceptable Copr/Mock solution and th

Re: F36 Change: Drop NIS(+) support from PAM (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-10-29 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 8:00 AM Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > Company internal only is a rarity these days with cloud deployments > and people putting Alexa's and similar devices on the company > internet. That 'smart fridge' in the company workroom or 'smart tv' in > the executive lounge is both

Re: [Rawhide] ImageMagick-6.9.12-26 available

2021-10-28 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 8:02 PM Sérgio Basto wrote: > > On Tue, 2021-10-26 at 16:42 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > > Hello team, > > > > I would like to let you know ImageMagick-6.9.12-26 recently landed > > upstream. > > Hello , when you update from 6.9.11 to 6.9.12, we need rebuild all > de

Re: F37 Change: Ansible 5 (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-10-24 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 8:52 AM Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 2:24 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > > > FWIW, I think the upstream renaming of ansible and ansible-core is something > > that we just have to accept. But we have some

Re: F37 Change: Ansible 5 (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-10-20 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 2:24 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > FWIW, I think the upstream renaming of ansible and ansible-core is something > that we just have to accept. But we have some flexibility in how this is > packaged in Fedora. > > On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 09:34:34PM -, David M

Re: Fedora minimum hardware requirements

2021-10-17 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
Is it worth paying hundreds of MBytes of installer space, and the new 2 GB minimum RAM to simply install Fedora? I'm not saying "discard anaconda". I'm saying "be aware of some very real reasons the installer has gotten so huge". And keep it in mind for your own projects. On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 4

Re: Fedora minimum hardware requirements

2021-10-17 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 3:36 PM Chris Murphy wrote: > > > > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021, 10:01 PM Kevin Kofler via devel > wrote: >> >> >> >> I still remember how Red Hat Linux and (IIRC) Fedora Core 1 could be booted >> from a floppy (older Red Hat Linux releases even had a fully functioning >> rescue

Re: F37 Change: Ansible 5 (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-10-16 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 10:22 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 08:51:46PM -0500, Maxwell G via devel wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I have a couple comments/questions about this change. > > > > How will this effect EPEL? Is the plan to keep Ansible 2.9 there for > > now? > >

Re: F37 Change: Ansible 5 (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-10-16 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 3:03 PM Gordon Messmer wrote: > > On 10/15/21 16:29, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > > > I would publish ansible-core as just that, with a "Provides: ansible > > %{version{-%{release}" and even "Obsoletes: ansible >= %{version}&qu

Re: F37 Change: Ansible 5 (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-10-16 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 11:39 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 07:44:12PM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 7:29 PM Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 4:32 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > > &

Re: F37 Change: Ansible 5 (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-10-15 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 7:29 PM Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 4:32 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Ansible5 > > > > == Summary == > > > > The ansible project has re-organized how they release and

Re: F37 Change: Ansible 5 (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-10-15 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 4:32 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Ansible5 > > == Summary == > > The ansible project has re-organized how they release and distribute > ansible. This change moves Fedora to be in sync with those changes and > retires the old 'ansible class

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