Lets not make this a drama.
Package maintenance changes have never gone through change proposals.
> However, it surprises me that for a package, that is part of the
deliverables of Fedora releases, no coordination effort was made to
transition the package from Red Hat maintenance to Fedora main
Hey,
as you've probably seen, the LibreOffice RPMS have recently been orphaned, and
I thought it would be good to explain the reasons
behind this.
The Red Hat Display Systems team (the team behind most of Red Hat’s desktop
efforts) has maintained the LibreOffice packages in Fedora for years as
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/UnfilteredFlathub
Before xmas, when the deadline for system-wide changes came near,
I flipped this change proposal to the ChangePageReadyForWrangler category,
and thereby send it to neverneverland, since the correct category is
ChangeReadyForWrangler :(
I've
On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 9:31 AM Giuseppe Scrivano
wrote:
>
> I've just opened a PR upstream for Podman to kill -9 all the remaining
> exec sessions when the container process terminates, so both --pid=host
> and --pid=private behaves in the same way. It would solve the issue we
> are seeing.
>
>
On my Silverblue system, the main offender for this is podman.
As soon as I have a toolbox running, conmon holds up the reboot for a very
long time because it refuses to shutdown properly.
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On Wed, Jul 6, 2022 at 3:06 PM Florian Weimer wrote:
> If the GNOME's sysprof does not
> work with Fedora, fix it or use something else. Do not change how
> Fedora is built.
>
The result of that attitude is that performance work in the desktop space
is happening
on GNOME OS images, or in Flatp
On Tue, Jul 5, 2022 at 3:40 PM Marek Polacek wrote:
>
> Maybe not, but even ~1% is still an unacceptable slowdown. It would take
> about a year for the compiler to catch up.
>
>
(Un)acceptable for whom? And why would it be unacceptable?
You just said compilers will make up for it quickly, not t
On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 4:55 AM Kevin Kofler via devel <
devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> Daan De Meyer via devel wrote:
> > Which shows a smaller than 1% slowdown between the binary built with
> frame
> > pointers and the binary built without frame pointers.
>
> I am still strongly opposed
On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 5:08 AM Lennart Poettering
wrote:
>
> I mean, yes, the OOM killer might not be that great currently, but
> this sounds like something to fix in kernel land, and if that doesn't
> work out for some reason because kernel devs can't agree, then do it
> as fallback in userspace
On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 12:08 PM Lennart Poettering
wrote:
> Heya,
>
> today I installed the current Fedora 30 Workstation beta on my new
> laptop. It was a bumpy ride, I must say (the partitioner (blivet?)
> crashed five times or so on me, always kicking me out of anaconda
> again, just because I
I don't think we particularly need autostarting vms on the workstation. It
would be very nice to get libvirtd activated. I know we've asked for this
before...
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On Wed, 2017-11-08 at 18:07 -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Neal Gompa
> wrote:
> > libkprint, kde-print-manager, etc. may have dependencies that make
> > the mix impossible. I don't know for sure, though.
>
> GTK+
>
For GTK+, one possible answer is to rely on
On Wed, 2017-09-06 at 14:02 +0200, Kalev Lember wrote:
> On 09/06/2017 01:22 PM, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote:
> > [tkloczko@domek SPECS.fedora]$ grep filetrigger * | grep icons
> > adwaita-icon-theme.spec:%transfiletriggerin --
> > %{_datadir}/icons/Adwaita
> > adwaita-icon-theme.spec:%transfiletriggerpos
On Wed, 2017-04-12 at 18:20 +0200, Björn 'besser82' Esser wrote:
>
> >
> > @Björn: Do you know how libyui chooses the toolkit?
>
> Yes. Libyui performs a check on init of ui whether it's running on
> a
> TTY or not:
>
> if TTY it instantly uses libyui-ncurses
> else it *tries* to lo
On Wed, 2017-02-01 at 14:26 +0100, Martin Kolman wrote:
> On Wed, 2017-02-01 at 07:16 -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> > On Wed, 2017-02-01 at 13:46 +0100, Martin Kolman wrote:
> > > Can you pass command line arguments like this ? For example
> > > inkscape
> > > can be used not only as a GUI app,
On Tue, 2016-11-29 at 14:40 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Nov 2016 15:26:50 +0100, Jiri Eischmann wrote:
>
> > I'm missing a link to a bug report here.
>
> Blame the bad experience I've made with tickets at
> bugzilla.gnome.org.
>
> There is no reason to believe that the Nautilus d
On Thu, 2016-06-02 at 14:19 -0400, Paul Wouters wrote:
> >
> > On Jun 1, 2016, at 09:48, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> >
> > Any scheme that relies on unprivileged programs "being nice"
> > doesn't
> > fix the inherent security problem: after logout a user should not
> > be
> > able consume further
On Thu, 2016-06-02 at 10:02 -0400, Paul Wouters wrote:
>
> People aren't agreeing with you. So making it a default seems like a
> bad
> idea. People do seem to agree on "obviously broken windoing apps"
> that
> are left lingering. Why can't we just let those get killed?
>
You are misinformed. Th
> xiphos-gtk2.rpm:
> /usr/bin/xiphos-gtk2
> /usr/share/appdata/xiphos-gtk2.appdata.xml
> /usr/share/applications/xiphos-gtk2.desktop
>
> xiphos-gtk3.rpm:
> /usr/bin/xiphos-gtk3
> /usr/share/appdata/xiphos-gtk3.appdata.xml
> /usr/share/applications/xiphos-gtk3.desktop
I have to ask though: is it
On Wed, 2016-06-01 at 09:59 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
>
> This paints a very specific premise of what a "logout" is, and I'm
> not
> sure I agree with it. There are actually many cases where I want to
> use
> resources on systems I have accounts on without specifically being
> logged in — the
On Tue, 2016-05-31 at 18:54 +0200, Göran Uddeborg wrote:
> Hello!
>
> I would like to ask for some help what to do with
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1324881 I've been
> pondering it for some time, but I know too little to know what to do.
>
> It's about the old amusement xpengui
On Fri, 2016-04-15 at 09:08 -0400, Honza Šilhan wrote:
> Do you think you can remove cache of any package without the crash?
> I remember cleaning cache for docker (even after properly deleting
> the saved
> images) and I was not able to get it work again.
Thats part of the semantics of /var/cach
On Thu, 2016-04-14 at 12:51 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> There is a thread on the users' list * dealing with the issue that
> after an upgrade, there's no non-obscure way to clean cached metadata
> (or packages, even) from previous releases. The thread discussses DNF
> and Yum, but it may apply t
On Mon, 2016-04-04 at 15:23 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> On Mon, 2016-04-04 at 13:56 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> >
> > It does.
> >
> > Also, I haven't seen any of the breakage in webkit mentioned in
> > this
> > thread here with a skylake laptop.
> The bug only occurs in accelerated compo
On Sat, 2016-04-02 at 09:17 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> >
> > So if there are issues with WebKit they should be fixed. "It can't
> > work lets go back to DRI2" isn't really an option in the long run
> It would be great if somebody would fix this. I just want to give a
> heads-up that we are
On Tue, 2016-03-15 at 13:06 +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote:
> So do you see any solution/improvement for this issue? I repeatedly
> reported the breakages, I made some proposals (as simple as "send an
> email"), which IMO should improve the situation, but it seems that
> you
> prefer to keep status quo.
On Fri, 2016-01-22 at 12:37 +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> I am wondering why the Gnome updates in Rawhide has to be always
> broken?
> Today I updated my computer just to find out that my gnome-shell is
> crashing instantly. As it turned out, majority of Gnome components
> were
> a
On Wed, 2015-09-30 at 08:13 -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote:
>
> I'd just like to point out that we have always had the requirement
> for
> package that bundled libraries to carry the "Provides:
> bundled(libname)"
> metadata. What's new here is not needing to go through the FPC to
> get
> an ex
On Thu, 2015-09-24 at 11:00 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
> On Thu, 2015-09-24 at 00:59 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
>
> > Bummer. The reason for libxkbcommon dependency is to be able to
> > make
> > sure that the new config is valid. Before that was added we had a
> > set
> > of rules a
On Tue, 2015-09-22 at 15:51 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Thu, 17.09.15 20:59, Germano Massullo (germano.massu...@gmail.com)
> wrote:
>
> > Today I had a scary experience with the audio of my computer.
> > I was listening to music with Amarok, using my headphones... The
> > KMix
> > volume
On Tue, 2015-09-22 at 05:31 -0500, kendell clark wrote:
> hi
> I'm ambivolent on the subject. If flat volumes become a problem, I
> know
> how to turn them off. However, I think because of all the complaints
> here by people who have a very good track record and don't complain
> often, this seems t
On Wed, 2015-09-02 at 15:24 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:
> (Also, the original definition included Anaconda because you need
> something to actually install Fedora Ring 0 with and that brought in
> GTK, etc).)
I think 'not self-hosting' should be understood to imply 'not self-
installing' - ie don't
On Wed, 2015-07-29 at 09:49 +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote:
> Dne 28.7.2015 v 18:15 Matthias Clasen napsal(a):
> > On Tue, 2015-07-28 at 14:49 +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote:
> >
> > > Just out of curiosity, do you have already any candidates for
> > > File
> > > T
On Sat, 2015-08-01 at 03:24 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Bastien Nocera wrote:
> > You're just 8 years late for noticing that:
> > https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-settings-daemon/tree/plugins/xse
> > ttings/gsd-xsettings-manager.c#n79
> > and the explanation has been here for 4 years.
>
> That
On Wed, 2015-07-29 at 12:47 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 21:27:45 +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote:
>
> > As I have thought for some time, I think we should have a team to
> > keep
> > packages and make migrations like gtk2 to gkt3, libgnome2, pyorbit,
> > gnome-python2, pyhton2
On Tue, 2015-07-28 at 14:49 +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote:
> Just out of curiosity, do you have already any candidates for File
> Triggers? I suppose "/sbin/ldconfig" is one of them. Do you plan to
> have some F24 feature to get rid of these?
Here is a list of candidates:
https://fedoraproject.org/
On Tue, 2015-07-14 at 10:13 +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote:
>
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA256
>
> Can we just drop comps entirely (or at least trim them down
> significantly)? I know that this will not happen from day to day, but
> I see the comps just as an ugly workaround for mi
On Tue, 2015-06-23 at 12:21 -0400, Jan Kurik wrote:
> = Proposed Self Contained Change: Standardized Passphrase Policy =
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Standardized_passphrase_policy
>
> Change owner(s):
> * Kevin Fenzi
> * David Cantrell
> * Tomas Mraz
>
> Currently a number of pla
On Tue, 2015-06-23 at 18:43 +0200, Tomas Hozza wrote:
Hey, I was out for a week, so this may be a bit of a late reply.
As Michael and Bastien already stated, all the GNOME networking UI
relies on information gotten from NetworkManager, and we'd like to keep
it that way. In particular, NetworkMana
On Fri, 2015-06-12 at 09:57 -0400, Paul Wouters wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Jun 2015, Matthias Clasen wrote:
>
> > I've just installed dnssec-trigger on rawhide to try this out, and
> > found that it breaks networking on my Workstation. I used to get a
> > network con
On Fri, 2015-06-12 at 10:58 +0200, Tomas Hozza wrote:
>
> > 3. NM waits for some signal from unbound/dnssec-trigger about the
> > trustability of the DNS server
>
> If you think NM needs to do some action (as I don't), we don't have
> problem with notifying NM (if you provide some API).
>
This
On Mon, 2015-03-09 at 12:31 +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote:
> Dne 20.2.2015 v 22:09 Matthias Clasen napsal(a):
> > I wanted to give a heads-up to the wider audience about a number
> > of workstation changes that are landing in the f22 branch (and
> > rawhide) this week, in time
I wanted to give a heads-up to the wider audience about a number of
workstation changes that are landing in the f22 branch (and rawhide)
this week, in time for the alpha freeze next week:
- The message tray at the bottom is gone, notifications are now shown
at the top, and can be reviewed in th
On Mon, 2015-02-09 at 08:44 +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote:
> However, especially for libinput, it gets hazy and also mostly pointless.
> aside from some special processing required for touchpads and tablets, we
> don't care much _what_ a device is, we just pass on the events. If a device
> has keys
On Thu, 2015-02-05 at 14:52 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> > # votes | name
> > - +--
> > 1427 | Kevin Fenzi
> > 1247 | Adam Jackson
> > 919 | Tomas Hozza
> > 818 | Parag Nemade
> > 617 | Debarshi Ray ← GNOME develope
On Tue, 2015-01-27 at 01:26 +, Naheem Zaffar wrote:
>
>
> On 26 January 2015 at 22:52, Will Woods wrote:
>
> (As an aside, PackageKit should also support these operations,
> so we can
> use PackageKit to make a Upgrade GUI Thing.)
>
>
> Gnome Software has h
On Wed, 2015-01-14 at 13:24 +, Peter Robinson wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Pierre-Yves Chibon
> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 01:00:27PM +0100, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> >> = Proposed Self Contained Change: Gnome Shell - New Notifications =
> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki
On Wed, 2014-12-17 at 04:33 -0500, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> Hey,
>
> - Original Message -
> >
> > Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
> > meeting tomorrow at 18:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on
> > irc.freenode.net.
> >
>
> > #topic ticket #1372 "Workstation" P
On Mon, 2014-12-15 at 10:18 +0700, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:
>
> On 12/13/2014 12:54 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 09:38:52AM -0500, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >>> On 12/12/2014 03:18 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote:
>
On Mon, 2014-12-15 at 18:01 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Robert Marcano wrote:
> > I don't know why the time to rebuild rpms is important, updates are now
> > applied at boot time, so rpms can be rebuilt with smaller nice/ionice
> > before the user reboots (on Workstation product).
>
> Offline upd
On Tue, 2014-12-09 at 01:35 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>
> To me, it is obvious that the Workstation WG is in deliberate contempt of
> FESCo's decision. That alone ought to lead to sanctions from FESCo. In
> addition, FESCo's decision must be implemented properly by a security update
> ASAP. A wid
On Mon, 2014-12-08 at 17:08 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
> Am 08.12.2014 um 16:55 schrieb Bastien Nocera:
> >>> You're free to select another firewall zone.
> >>
> >> How, when you don't even install the firewall configuration tool by
> >> default?
> >
> > Settings -> Network, select your network -
On Thu, 2014-12-04 at 09:39 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> What do you think? Would this help towards the goals listed above?
> Would it help _other_ things? What downsides would it bring?
I think it is not useful to set up a general mechanism of alternating
releases and borrow a name for it bef
On Tue, 2014-12-02 at 11:33 -0500, Owen Taylor wrote:
>
> * The backlight eats a ton of battery - 4W for the display backlight
> and 1W for the keyboard backlight. If you are getting poor battery life,
> turn off the keyboard backlight and turn the screen down. But how do we
> fix this for all u
On Thu, 2014-11-06 at 09:43 -0500, Paul Wouters wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Nov 2014, Martin Stransky wrote:
>
> > as you may know [0] Firefox in Fedora [1] is using Mozilla Location service
> > [2] as a location provider instead of the Google one.
> >
> > I'd like to ask you to join the project, install
On Tue, 2014-11-04 at 04:56 -0500, Colin Walters wrote:
> This looks related to: https://wiki.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/InstalledTests
>
> (Note that the is equivalent to issues with rpm
> %check)
>
> It's implemented by gnome-continuous, and there's been a bit of effort to
> make -tests subpackag
On Tue, 2014-10-07 at 13:24 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> > Thanks James... I am aware of all the warnings. They might as well put up a
> > skull & crossbones. I have all my data backed up twice. But this is my
> > point... you don't say toxic
On Mon, 2014-10-06 at 10:49 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I noticed Titillium typeface is unlisted in Gnome Software. How to
> include it? I tried to look at the documentation about the process but
> not available.
Hey Luya, I see these fonts here:
https://github.com/hughsie/fed
On Fri, 2014-10-03 at 22:20 +0530, Satyajit Sahoo wrote:
> They have completey rewritten Adwaita and integrated it into GTK. If
> they change it again, it'll be hard for them too. But let's hope for
> the best :D
Even better to just talk to 'them' - we are right here, and happy to
answer questions
On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 16:21 +0200, Zdenek Kabelac wrote:
>
> Has Fedora given up Unix ??
This thread has gone quite far out into the weeds. It started with a
fairly concrete question: can we improve the offline update experience
by requiring only a single reboot, instead of two ?
I'd still be i
On Wed, 2014-09-10 at 09:31 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> > Should I apply for an exception of some sort, or does the socket
> > activation policy need revisiting?
> >
>
> It's also worth noting that FESCo granted the WGs the rights to make
> decisions like this, so I'd recommend asking the
On Fri, 2014-09-05 at 20:53 +0200, Farkas Levente wrote:
>
> system-config-lvm was removed from rhel7 while g-d-u is not able to
> configure lvm. so it _definitely_ a step forward. and really not agree
> with you about the root user usage. you imho those who would like to
> configure disk and lvm
On Fri, 2014-09-05 at 15:55 +0200, Vratislav Podzimek wrote:
> On Fri, 2014-09-05 at 09:04 -0400, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > > Good news, everyone! We (me and CC'd Vojtech Trefny) would like to
> > > introduce you the next generation tool for storage management
On Thu, 2014-09-04 at 13:27 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
> Hi,
>
> As I was curious of any of my packages depends on
> any of these I've run some repoqueries to see what
> depends on these, and we still have a ton of
> dependencies on these.
>
> So unless we want to drop a ton of packages, we real
I've decided to orphan some packages:
ORBit2
at-spi
eog-plugins
gamin
gnome-themes
icon-naming-tools
libIDL
libglade2
libgnomecanvas
Please pick them up if you are interested in them.
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On Thu, 2014-07-17 at 16:21 +0200, Mathieu Bridon wrote:
> On Thu, 2014-07-17 at 16:11 +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> > Hi,
> > how can I restart dbus service, registered via systemd unit?
> >
> > To be specific, I have in system:
> > /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.a11y.atspi.Registry.service
> >
On Mon, 2014-06-23 at 11:14 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> Try yum update when the oldest installed kernel (and the running
> kernel) is the only one that works and there is a new (still broken for
> your system) kernel update available. In that case one really wouldn't
> expect the running k
On Mon, 2014-05-05 at 16:19 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote:
>
> It's a practical way to keep helpers out of path and autocomplete
> without polluting /usr/lib[64] and having to deal with multilib issues,
> what's pointless about it ?
>
It causes pointless configure and Makefile complications in every
On Wed, 2014-04-30 at 16:05 +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> Is this about integrating this work in Fedora? Or more porting work? Or
> even make Wayland the default in F21? The section "How To Test" sounds
> as if the later is the case, but it's not entirely clear to me.
I've tried to clarify th
On Mon, 2014-05-05 at 03:59 -0400, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> > The whole confusion is because the feature was initially written for
> > 3.12 but then the whole .next thing happened.
> > In short the text needs to be updated.
>
> Matthias updated it, I asked him but probably it needs more updates.
On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 20:41 +0200, Thomas Woerner wrote:
> >
> > What you need is clearly different "zones" that the user can configure
> > and associate to networks, with the default being that you trust nothing
> > and everything is firewalled when you roam a new network.
> >
> We have that alre
On Wed, 2014-04-09 at 08:39 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 07:50:37AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> > > I would say in the long run we should be working towards creating
> > > separated locale,doc,man packages
> > Hmm, I wonder if RPM 4.12 would allow us to do this with
On Thu, 2014-04-03 at 16:32 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>
> On 04/03/2014 04:22 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
>
> > Now, in reading that policy, there are quite a few things that match the
> > "Things that would make it less likely to grant a request" list. But, on the
> > other hand, by ha
Hey,
so the time has come to consider this - thanks to the great work of
Richard and Kalev on the copr, we have a set of 3.12 packages that have
already received fairly wide testing.
But we should be careful, so I want to ask for concrete problem reports
with the copr packages, besides dependency
On Mon, 2014-03-10 at 15:46 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Just for the more-public-record, I remain pretty sure this is a bad idea
> and don't think we should allow it. You should always be considered to
> be running exactly 0 or 1 Products. I think we should consider how to
> allow things like
On Thu, 2014-03-06 at 00:07 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> That was the excuse for not supporting the spec in GNOME Shell:
> http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xdg/2010-January/011228.html
> A very bad excuse, considering that, as I pointed out, the spec GNOME
> proposes using instead (the Galag
On Wed, 2014-03-05 at 20:04 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> --+-
> GTK+ (2 or 3) | You must use Canonical's libappindicator, which is
> | interoperable with the KDE implementation. It is
>
On Mon, 2014-03-03 at 16:16 +0200, Ric Wheeler wrote:
> I am fine with something like what is proposed by Steve above - let users
> have
> the GUI present an option that gives preference to the default without
> totally
> hiding other options.
You and Josef are sending mixed messages here: "
On Wed, 2014-02-26 at 16:58 +0100, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
> 2014-02-26 14:11 GMT+01:00 Colin Walters :
> The *very first* test I run is "does the OS still boot"?
> That's called "smoketest" for me, and it only takes a few
> minutes.
>
>
> That seems to be optimizing for bu
On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 16:51 +0200, Alexander Todorov wrote:
> I want to track which packages *DO NOT* have any tests and later be able to
> focus on creating them (be it working with volunteers, GSoC participants or
> whoever is willing to step up to this task).
In that case, I suggest simply k
On Tue, 2014-02-18 at 07:43 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> Very much +1. Putting it in kickstarts is a worse tying problem than
> putting it in a package: it ties this configuration mechanism to a
> system for creating deliverables, which is what kickstart is. We need to
> be moving away f
> >
> > Are we allowed to ship software in Fedora that dynamically loads
> > advertisements from the web and shows them to users?
>
> I think "allowed" is probably the wrong term to use here. Fedora
> packaging rules on what is allowed to be included have pretty much
> focused on legality of pa
On Fri, 2014-01-31 at 14:34 +0100, Lukáš Tinkl wrote:
> Fedora isn't a Gnome OS, perhaps that's what they're trying to convey;
> making it one will most probably create less confusion but I'm sure it
> will also make us less relevant (my personal opinion).
Not sure why that was necessary, but I
On Fri, 2014-01-31 at 06:03 -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
>
> What this does reveal is a bigger problem: that the audiences of at least
> some of the spins are not aware of this relationship to the larger Fedora
> ecosystem. This would indicate that the "dropping" or de-promoting the spins
>
I've switched to rawhide yesterday, and discovered that vinagre now
forces rsyslog onto my system. That's not great.
The dependency chain goes something like this:
vinagre -> spice -> libcacard -> ... glusterfs ... ->
rsyslog-mmjsonparse -> rsyslog
I think there's at least two questionable links
On Mon, 2014-01-20 at 23:18 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2014-01-21 at 01:01 -0600, Ian Pilcher wrote:
> > On 01/20/2014 11:48 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > The bug currently under discussion was caused by a change that came in
> > > inadvertently, not intentionally, and was actually
On Wed, 2014-01-15 at 22:31 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2014-01-15 at 22:59 -0700, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote:
>
> > * Another individual thought that all web authors are stupid for
> > wanting to use fancy fonts and that I am wasting my time. (He might
> > be right about that last bit.
On Mon, 2014-01-06 at 18:06 +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote:
> Dne 6.1.2014 17:53, Matthew Miller napsal(a):
> > On Mon, Jan 06, 2014 at 09:36:09AM -0700, Tim Flink wrote:
> >> One of the primary reasons for replacing AutoQA with taskotron is to
> >> make it easier for folks to contribute checks. AutoQA's
On Mon, 2013-11-18 at 11:23 +0800, Christopher Meng wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Yesterday I reviewed a package notion, which is a new window
> manager(new to fedorian), it installs desktop file to
> /usr/share/xsession.
>
> Interesting, when I looking into more "window manager" in Fedora, I found
> that:
>
On Wed, 2013-11-13 at 17:58 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > - I don't have any Bluetooth status or display in gnome-shell now. I
> > did previously. I do not know what I need to install or tweak to get
> > it back, or where to report it.
>
> I'm not as sure about this one, but it's probab
On Sat, 2013-11-09 at 01:03 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Christian Schaller wrote:
> > The next update of the PRD will be posted to the fedora-desktop list as
> > that is the designated 'home' of the working group and product and we want
> > to avoid cluttering up the general Fedora-devel list with
Forgot one thing - the installer question.
I think it already came up tangentially in some of the workstation prd
discussions, but I think we should at least be open to the idea that the
different products need to be able to define their own install
experience.
That would imply that the 'installe
On Fri, 2013-11-08 at 10:51 -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
> * LINK: http://fpaste.org/52688/38392758/ (pknirsch, 16:19:54)
> * Base definition: installer, compose tools, minimal install (for some
> definition there), and functionality the majority products want to
> use (pknirsch, 16
On Fri, 2013-11-08 at 14:06 +0200, Joonas Sarajärvi wrote:
> 2013/11/7 Christian Schaller :
> > Ok, so I guess the solution would be for the launcher to do something like
> > this:
> >
> > gnome-terminal --geometry 80x37 --disable-factory --role=bitchx
> > --class=bitchx --name "bitchX IRC" --tit
On Tue, 2013-11-05 at 16:32 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
> > Right, that's exactly what I was saying. I just think this is all the
> > _original poster_ was talking about, not any kind of automatic
> > configuration of such repositories. (Or at least, you can read it that
> > way).
>
> OK. I guess t
On Tue, 2013-11-05 at 12:35 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> Le Lun 4 novembre 2013 23:02, Nicolas Mailhot a écrit :
>
> > The problem is not to get code in the hands of developers. You don't need
> > distros for that. The problem is to get the code to end-users and
> > developers spend more time f
On Tue, 2013-11-05 at 08:23 +0100, drago01 wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 3:03 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Sun, 2013-10-27 at 01:46 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> >> Adam Williamson wrote:
> >> > I don't think we'd really be correct in blocking the release for such
> >> > issues - especially
On Mon, 2013-11-04 at 11:37 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> GNOME decided to break it all the time (can't even get extensions work
> from one gnome-shell version to the next one and no gracefully disabling
> is still functional breakage).
So, you take the one API that is explicitly declared non-s
On Sat, 2013-11-02 at 18:38 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 06:21:34PM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> > > So, really, it's this related point that I'm concerned about now. We
> > > _need_
> > > to do these things in coordina
On Sat, 2013-11-02 at 17:46 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> So, really, it's this related point that I'm concerned about now. We _need_
> to do these things in coordination, not just push a situation into F20 where
> we are telling our users to reboot everyday -- that's a pretty bad user
> experien
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