Re: bodhi client question

2013-10-03 Thread bernd . stramm
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Re: bodhi client question

2013-10-03 Thread bernd . stramm
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Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 22:02:14 +0100 drago01 wrote: > On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Reindl Harald > wrote: > > > > > > Am 27.11.2011 21:09, schrieb Bernd Stramm: > > > >>>> If implemented the wrong way, what's wrong with screenshots > >&g

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 01:09:46 +0530 Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 11/28/2011 12:01 AM, Bernd Stramm wrote: > > > > Call me elitist then, I think it is better when more people can > > read, and when they actually do it. > > Unfortunately for someone talking about so

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 22:06:33 +0530 Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 11/27/2011 09:20 PM, Bernd Stramm wrote: > > > > > I think this is going a little far. Saying that people are better > > off being able to read is not elitist. > > Yes it is. Because you are assuming

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Bernd Stramm
oftware useful for everyone. I think this is going a little far. Saying that people are better off being able to read is not elitist. And like or not, we who make tools are doing a part of building the world. Should we try to make it better, or simple more convenient? Computers are tools, and usi

Re: Subject: IMPORTANT: Mandatory password and ssh key change by 2011-11-30

2011-10-13 Thread Bernd Stramm
the accounts will be compromised. > 2) We could require > everyone to change keys. And some time after that, some accounts will be compromised again. Some of the same accounts as before, and some other accounts. Not maybe. Certainly, 100%. -- Bernd Stramm bernd.str...@gmail.com signatu

Re: Subject: IMPORTANT: Mandatory password and ssh key change by 2011-11-30

2011-10-12 Thread Bernd Stramm
t again, fairly quickly. I am also fairly certain that they are not following this debate. -- Bernd Stramm bernd.str...@gmail.com -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: what if native systemd service is slower than old sysvinit script?

2011-09-15 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 15:27:49 -0700 Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2011-09-15 at 14:14 -0400, Bernd Stramm wrote: > > > Many computers are booted very rarely, once a day or so, and then > > sit idle for very long periods of time. This is very wasteful. The > > reason p

Re: what if native systemd service is slower than old sysvinit script?

2011-09-15 Thread Bernd Stramm
d very rarely, once a day or so, and then sit idle for very long periods of time. This is very wasteful. The reason people do this is because booting takes a long time compared to starting the set of applications they use. If you could boot and start applications in say, 1/2 second, usage patte

Re: what if native systemd service is slower than old sysvinit script?

2011-09-14 Thread Bernd Stramm
very node (service) as soon as possible. There is no guarantee that this will _always_ finish everything sooner than some other, arbitrary ordering. In this kind of environment, usually it will go faster, but not always. -- Bernd Stramm bernd.str...@gmail.com -- devel mailing list devel@lists

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-28 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 15:34:34 +0200 Marian Ganisin wrote: > On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 10:36:08AM -0400, Bernd Stramm wrote: > > > c) there's a spec about ~/.local/bin already accepted by a > > > friendly project > > > > This is STILL a security risk, even if s

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-28 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 14:35:27 +0100 "Bryn M. Reeves" wrote: > On 07/28/2011 01:22 PM, Bernd Stramm wrote: > > On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 13:00:28 +0100 > > "Bryn M. Reeves" wrote: > > It is nevertheless an *added* avenue to do some phishing. And for > > wh

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-28 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 13:00:28 +0100 "Bryn M. Reeves" wrote: > On 07/28/2011 12:54 PM, Bernd Stramm wrote: > > On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 11:24:48 +0100 > > "Bryn M. Reeves" wrote: > >> There are already quite a few things that may place executables > &g

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-28 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 11:24:48 +0100 "Bryn M. Reeves" wrote: > On 07/27/2011 03:14 PM, Bernd Stramm wrote: > > On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 15:54:09 +0200 > > Lennart Poettering wrote: > >> If you don't hide ~/.local and ~/.config then users who are less > >>

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 17:14:22 -0400 Genes MailLists wrote: > On 07/27/2011 05:00 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: > > On 7/27/11 1:09 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> Depends on the PATH-Order > >> > >> if something is intended to be first in PATH and any attacker is > >> able to write there his "ls" would w

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Bernd Stramm
e's a spec about ~/.local/bin already accepted by a friendly > project This is STILL a security risk, even if somebody calls it a standard. > > d) there is point in having a standardized dir for this > > hence: let's just change the xdg basedir spec to standardize it. > > Lennart > -- Bernd Stramm bernd.str...@gmail.com -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Bernd Stramm
t; it is nothing more than bike shedding anyway. There are 173 hidden directories in my $HOME, none of which I put there manually. 2 of these are .config and .local. So I would say the spec is more widely ignored than it is being implemented. -- Bernd Stramm bernd.str...@gmail.com -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH (was: Re: User-level instance of /bin in PATH)

2011-07-26 Thread Bernd Stramm
d between bash-4.2.10 -2 and -3: > > http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=bash.git;a=commitdiff;h=02b20d810111e8b53bb98ad49fedd1d583ce62e1 > > because of https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=699812 > > There is some rationale in that bug, but I think it's extremely bogus. Oh it seems every useful for purposes like installing executables that most users will never find. > > Rich. > -- Bernd Stramm bernd.str...@gmail.com -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 18:09:53 + (UTC) JB wrote: > Bernd Stramm gmail.com> writes: > > > ... > > Would you help out with testing if given these specific > > instructions? If not yourself, who would actually do this? > > ... > > I am only suggestin

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread Bernd Stramm
you. That's not a very realistic approach you are taking now. You are giving specific instructions to a project to in turn give specific instructions to hypothetical testers. Would you help out with testing if given these specific instructions? If not yourself, who would actually do this?

Re: Trusted Boot in Fedora

2011-06-27 Thread Bernd Stramm
M, if he doesn't he'll just not use TPM or re-sign kernels on > update on his own with his personal key. On the subject of trust, may I repeat that this is at present entirely undocumented. The feature page contains nothing whatsoever saying what this is, except for a link to a sourceforge project. The sourceforge project in turn contains nothing saying what the software does. Nothing. I have found something that looks related here http://www.intel.com/technology/security/downloads/315168.htm but is that it? How would anyone know? -- Bernd Stramm bernd.str...@gmail.com -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Trusted Boot in Fedora

2011-06-25 Thread Bernd Stramm
n be) in the chain of trust. Those sorts of technical topics would be interesting. > > kevin -- Bernd Stramm bernd.str...@gmail.com -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Trusted Boot in Fedora

2011-06-24 Thread Bernd Stramm
> Only if it is not under user control, otherwise it is a very useful > feature. Nevertheless, the feature page contains no documentation about what it actually is. Neither does the sourceforge.net page of the project. It seems like a reasonable request that this documentation be added.

Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-17 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 19:46:46 -0300 Evandro Giovanini wrote: > Em Sex, 2011-06-17 às 15:21 -0400, Bernd Stramm escreveu: > > On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 14:47:38 -0400 > > Casey Dahlin wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 02:32:12PM -0400, Bernd Stramm wrote: >

Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-17 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 14:47:38 -0400 Casey Dahlin wrote: > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 02:32:12PM -0400, Bernd Stramm wrote: > > So Gnome Shell is not for a good many of the people who had been > > using Gnome before that. > > > > YES! I don't know why more people d

Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-17 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:41:21 -0600 Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:34, Bernd Stramm > wrote: > > On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:16:46 -0600 > > Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > >> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:02, Casey Dahlin > >> w

Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-17 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:16:46 -0600 Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:02, Casey Dahlin > wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 01:05:08PM -0400, Bernd Stramm wrote: > >> > >> I think it fails on #1: > >> > >> > Makes i

Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-17 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 14:25:53 -0400 Casey Dahlin wrote: > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 02:12:54PM -0400, Bernd Stramm wrote: > > One could do that, but that would be an idiotic thing to do. So one > > doesn't. > > > > Its what you said. You explicitly want to divide y

Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-17 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 14:02:14 -0400 Casey Dahlin wrote: > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 01:05:08PM -0400, Bernd Stramm wrote: > > > > I think it fails on #1: > > > > > Makes it easy for users to focus on their current task and reduces > > > distraction and i

Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-17 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 09:44:45 -0700 Adam Williamson wrote: > On Sat, 2011-06-18 at 00:30 +0900, 夜神 岩男 wrote: > > On Fri, 2011-06-17 at 10:04 -0400, Bernd Stramm wrote: > > > On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 19:33:18 +0900 > > > 夜神 岩男 wrote: > > > > > > > >

Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-17 Thread Bernd Stramm
; has failed? > > "Doesn't live up to my expectation" is very different from "Doesn't > comply with spec" and both are different from "Is a bad design". How about a spec then of what Gnome3 was trying to achiece, and how about those who like it tell

Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-17 Thread Bernd Stramm
n't come up with any new ideas. -- Bernd Stramm bernd.str...@gmail.com -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Heads up: impending IPv6 Test Day

2011-06-02 Thread Bernd Stramm
:24ff:fec9:2e0c(fe80::200:24ff:fec9:2e0c) from > > fe80::21e:8cff:fecf:cde5 eth0: 56 data bytes > > 64 bytes from fe80::200:24ff:fec9:2e0c: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1.69 > > ms 64 bytes from fe80::200:24ff:fec9:2e0c: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 > > time=0.263 ms > > But that&#x

Re: Selective Updates

2010-05-04 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Tue, 04 May 2010 21:08:23 -0400 Matt McCutchen wrote: > On Tue, 2010-05-04 at 17:44 -0400, Bernd Stramm wrote: > > Too costly with the current tools, I have no doubt. The method you > > describe doesn't look manageable, you're right. > > > > Perhaps I sho

Re: Selective Updates

2010-05-04 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Tue, 04 May 2010 14:26:34 -0700 Jesse Keating wrote: > On Tue, 2010-05-04 at 15:20 -0400, Bernd Stramm wrote: > > On Tue, 04 May 2010 20:42:18 +0200 > > Kevin Kofler wrote: > > > > > Bernd Stramm wrote: > > > > I would like to pick the packages th

Selective Updates

2010-05-04 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Tue, 04 May 2010 20:42:18 +0200 Kevin Kofler wrote: > Bernd Stramm wrote: > > I would like to pick the packages that I'm adventurous with. > > Currently that's not very easy, either an adventurousness level is > > enabled in the repos or it isn't. That mea

Re: Open Letter: Why I, Kevin Kofler, am not rerunning for FESCo

2010-05-04 Thread Bernd Stramm
e users have given up using it - testing people asleep on the job Bernd -- Bernd Stramm -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Open Letter: Why I, Kevin Kofler, am not rerunning for FESCo

2010-05-04 Thread Bernd Stramm
For adventurous bug fixes, perhaps there should be a classification emergency-because-the-bug-breaks-most-of-the-system, which gets pushed with extreme priority. Of course this can result maintainers having to use this classification twice in a row. Bernd -- Bernd Stramm -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Open Letter: Why I, Kevin Kofler, am not rerunning for FESCo

2010-05-03 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Mon, 3 May 2010 22:04:11 -0400 Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Bernd Stramm wrote: > > On Tue, 04 May 2010 01:58:34 +0200 > > Kevin Kofler wrote: > > > > > >> The poll told us an approximate proportion, which is so far from > &

Re: Open Letter: Why I, Kevin Kofler, am not rerunning for FESCo

2010-05-03 Thread Bernd Stramm
, but a sample size of 183 people makes it utterly meaningless considering the population size. It gives no useful information one way or the other. Bernd -- Bernd Stramm -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-20 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 16:56 +0200, Alexander Boström wrote: > tis 2010-04-20 klockan 01:51 +0300 skrev Slava Zanko: > > > For example, all present utilites have sence just for guru's (ls, rm, > > fsck etc), but for novies it's hard to use. Is good idea to symlink'ing > > (shell aliasing) these and

Re: C++ help needed

2010-04-20 Thread Bernd Stramm
anything I can do. Bernd > The other xmms2 clients are held up on this, and I'd rather not simply > dead.package this unless I absolutely have to. > > I would be happy to return the favor with work that is in my skillset, > licensing, packaging, reviewing, triage, e

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-19 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 02:06 +0200, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > Hi, > > 2010/4/20 Slava Zanko : > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Hi folk, > > > > I want to propose new idea about names of command line utilites... > > > > For example, all present utilites have sence just