Re: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-14 Thread Andy Green (林安廸)
On 06/14/2011 11:43 AM, Somebody in the thread at some point said: >> For what's left, eg ARM9+ that you can run normal Linux and Fedora on, >> ipv6 is going to be workable if the memory allows. Looking a year or >> two ahead, where "Embedded" will extend to Cortex A15 quad core, and >> IPv6 will

Re: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-14 Thread Andy Green (林安廸)
On 06/14/2011 11:17 AM, Somebody in the thread at some point said: Hi - >> Dude, systemd requires the functionality of the three modules it loads >> explicitly. > > systemd requires ipv6. > And you pitch systemd to be used by embedded devices. > > Do you really think all embedded devices will be

Re: conclusion: F15 / systemd / user-experience

2011-06-13 Thread Andy Green (林安廸)
On 06/14/2011 05:57 AM, Somebody in the thread at some point said: > Fedora could well benefit from switching to a rolling release model > as well (no not rawhide - a controlled rolling release much as the > kernel development follows). I've been living from rawhide on my main laptop for a f

headsup: rawhide 3.0 kernel needs symlink

2011-06-03 Thread Andy Green (林安廸)
Hi - Maybe it's common knowledge already but the 3.0 / 3.0.0 thing has led to the uname -r of the kernel not matching the packaged module path. Your boot will be a "bit minimal" until you stick a symlink in along the lines of --> ln -sf /lib/modules/3.0-0.rc1.git0.1.fc16.x86_64 /lib/modules/3

Re: FC15 beta testing result by my 76-year old uncle

2011-04-24 Thread Andy Green
On 04/23/2011 08:46 PM, Somebody in the thread at some point said: Hi - > I've setup FC15 beta for my 76-year old uncle. The major issues > encountered: > * wake up from suspend didn't work on his laptop; on another one does I thought my suspend was broken on this laptop. But it turned out it

Adding ARM Cross generation patch to gcc and binutils specfiles

2010-12-25 Thread Andy Green
Hi - Building on the work of Lennert Buytenhek and David Woodhouse I recently uplevelled the spec files for gcc and binutils they did for gcc-4.1.2 and binutils-2.17.50.0.18 to work with recent rawhide gcc and binutils. The goal of the spec changes is to allow rpmbuild to also build cross gcc

Re: Putting cross compilers into Fedora

2010-09-05 Thread Andy Green
On 09/01/10 16:29, Somebody in the thread at some point said: Hi - > What are the use cases for the cross-compilers? > > If these are to compliment the Fedora secondary archs, then compiling > kernels is probably the main use of cross-compilers -- for example, on > ARM, devices often need a custo

Re: Stable Release Updates types proposal (was Re: Fedora Board Meeting Recap 2010-03-11)

2010-03-13 Thread Andy Green
On 03/13/10 11:46, Somebody in the thread at some point said: > On 03/13/2010 11:52 AM, Ville-Pekka Vainio wrote: >> pe, 2010-03-12 kello 15:20 -0800, Jesse Keating kirjoitti: > >> As Fedora is the distribution I'm most familiar with, I've also >> installed it on some of my family members' systems

Re: Stable Release Updates types proposal (was Re: Fedora Board Meeting Recap 2010-03-11)

2010-03-12 Thread Andy Green
On 03/12/10 18:06, Somebody in the thread at some point said: >>> In this context, if you're writing homegrown apps, you're a >>> "developer", not a "user", so the above sentence obviously does not >>> apply. Instead, my original point does (you'll be compiling your >>> own software very often any

Re: Stable Release Updates types proposal (was Re: Fedora Board Meeting Recap 2010-03-11)

2010-03-12 Thread Andy Green
On 03/12/10 15:11, Somebody in the thread at some point said: > Andy Green wrote: > >> On 03/12/10 00:45, Somebody in the thread at some point said: >> >>> If you are the user, then you should not be compiling software. :-) You >>> should be using some repositor

Re: Stable Release Updates types proposal (was Re: Fedora Board Meeting Recap 2010-03-11)

2010-03-12 Thread Andy Green
On 03/12/10 14:01, Somebody in the thread at some point said: > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:23:58PM +0000, Andy Green wrote: > >> However I agree this isn't a real issue, the packages with the homegrown >> apps should choke the yum update because they see the lib versions the

Re: Stable Release Updates types proposal (was Re: Fedora Board Meeting Recap 2010-03-11)

2010-03-12 Thread Andy Green
On 03/12/10 00:45, Somebody in the thread at some point said: > If you are the user, then you should not be compiling software. :-) You > should be using some repository and that repository is responsible for > rebuilding the package. I tend to agree with what you have been writing but this seems

Re: Cannot rely on /dev being present in %post scripts?

2010-03-12 Thread Andy Green
On 08/14/2009 10:20 AM, Somebody in the thread at some point said: > It's been pretty common since forever for various scriptlets to redirect > output of stderr/stdout to /dev/null, so I think it'd be a bit of an > ugly mess if there was a mandatory packaging rule you couldn't use at > least /dev/