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Are you going to submit x11libre for package review without the obsoletes and
provides?
I will be just as vocal next time if you submit a similar proposal to replace
Xorg.
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On 6/25/25 9:36 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
I hate to be pessimistic but I think it is premature to say it is "solved" until
users use the new Wow64 mode. I'm trying to get the merge in this week.
Rawhide, 10.4-5, is now built with new wow64 as the default. Please test it. F42
will receive
Once upon a time, David Airlie said:
> Does anyone know if it's possible to install i686 build deps into an
> x86-64 build?
>
> I was going to try and see what building a mesa package that produced
> a 32-bit subpackage, but
>
> BuildRequires: llvm-devel.i686 doesn't seem to work,
I think there
On 6/25/25 8:57 PM, David Airlie wrote:
Does anyone know if it's possible to install i686 build deps into an
x86-64 build?
Koji doesn't do multi-lib so it is not possible.
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Does anyone know if it's possible to install i686 build deps into an
x86-64 build?
I was going to try and see what building a mesa package that produced
a 32-bit subpackage, but
BuildRequires: llvm-devel.i686 doesn't seem to work,
Dave.
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Hi,
On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 08:45:33PM +0100, Jonathan Wakely wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 at 16:08, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
> >
> > And there is another aspect, Fedora being used often as a distribution used
> > by developers working on compilers and other parts of toolchain. Not having
> > at leas
On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 11:15:21PM +0100, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2025-06-25 at 23:58 +0200, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 10:54:21PM +0100, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2025-06-25 at 22:09 +0200, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
> > > > i686-linux is one of the few primary
Hi,
in the discussion about my now withdrawn change proposal, I found this
comment (by someone going by "PASRC") interesting:
https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/linux-graphics-x-org-drivers/x-org-drm/1555670-fedora-s-fesco-to-decide-whether-to-replace-upstream-x-org-server-with-xlibre-fork/pa
On Wed, 2025-06-25 at 23:58 +0200, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 10:54:21PM +0100, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Wed, 2025-06-25 at 22:09 +0200, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
> > > i686-linux is one of the few primary architectures for gcc
> >
> > Maybe it shouldn't be any more?
>
> It is
On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 10:54:21PM +0100, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2025-06-25 at 22:09 +0200, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
> > i686-linux is one of the few primary architectures for gcc
>
> Maybe it shouldn't be any more?
It is important to have some 32-bit architectures among the primary targets
On Wed, 2025-06-25 at 22:09 +0200, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
> i686-linux is one of the few primary architectures for gcc
Maybe it shouldn't be any more?
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On Tuesday, June 24, 2025, Aoife Moloney via devel-announce <
devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> Wiki - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Drop_i686_support
> Discussion thread -
> https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f43-change-proposal-drop-i686-
> support-system-wide/156324
On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 at 20:55, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 08:45:33PM +0100, Jonathan Wakely wrote:
> > On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 at 16:08, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
> > >
> > > And there is another aspect, Fedora being used often as a distribution
> > > used
> > > by developers wor
On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 10:13 PM Florian Weimer wrote:
>
> * Andrii Nakryiko:
>
> > On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 11:08 AM Davide Cavalca
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On 2025-06-24 12:06, Florian Weimer wrote:
> >> > Sorry, I tried to make clear that this is regular C code compiled with
> >> > the -mno-omit-le
On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 08:55:00PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 08:45:33PM +0100, Jonathan Wakely wrote:
> > On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 at 16:08, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
> > >
> > > And there is another aspect, Fedora being used often as a distribution
> > > used
> > > by devel
On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 17:51:15 +0100
Peter Robinson wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 at 15:36, Stephen Smoogen wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 at 10:21, Michael Catanzaro
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> With Wine solved, it sounds like Steam is the only remaining concern.
> >>
> >> I think we c
On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 08:45:33PM +0100, Jonathan Wakely wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 at 16:08, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
> >
> > And there is another aspect, Fedora being used often as a distribution used
> > by developers working on compilers and other parts of toolchain. Not having
> > at least bas
On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 10:42:22AM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 7:46 PM Eduard Lucena
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello guys,
> >
> > As I did it in discussion.fp.o, I need to remind everyone that the latest
> > update of Fedora Strategy [1] that one the objectives is to grow our
On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 at 16:08, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
>
> And there is another aspect, Fedora being used often as a distribution used
> by developers working on compilers and other parts of toolchain. Not having
> at least basic 32-bit libraries will be a major blocker. And not just for
> GCC/LLVM/G
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2374273
--- Comment #4 from Fedora Update System ---
FEDORA-2025-150ec8e1db has been pushed to the Fedora 42 testing repository.
Soon you'll be able to install the update with the following command:
`sudo dnf upgrade --enablerepo=updates-testing --ref
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2374442
Petr Pisar changed:
What|Removed |Added
Status|NEW |CLOSED
Resolution|---
Hello,
I'm trying to get in contact with the maintainer of GNU screen
(Josef Ridky). I've created a pull request:
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/screen/pull-request/6
To update to a patched version of GNU screen which fixes some bugs
(which are also reported in bugzilla).
I've posted on bug
On Thu, Jun 26, 2025 at 5:24 AM David Airlie wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jun 26, 2025 at 2:55 AM Marcin Juszkiewicz
> wrote:
> >
> > W dniu 25.06.2025 o 16:35, Stephen Smoogen pisze:
> > > 1. How are you going to remove it? Everyone add a ExcludeArch: , someone
> > > fix koji to only allow a specific list
On Thu, Jun 26, 2025 at 2:55 AM Marcin Juszkiewicz
wrote:
>
> W dniu 25.06.2025 o 16:35, Stephen Smoogen pisze:
> > 1. How are you going to remove it? Everyone add a ExcludeArch: , someone
> > fix koji to only allow a specific list? a shadow koji which only builds
> > for x86_32? etc
>
> From wha
Once upon a time, Alexander Bokovoy said:
> On Аўт, 24 чэр 2025, Chris Adams wrote:
> >Once upon a time, Ian Pilcher said:
> >>Keeping in mind that some people won't be aware of this change before
> >>they pull the trigger on the update from F42 -> F43, this seems like it
> >>will render their Id
On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 1:08 PM Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 11:02:56AM +0100, Aoife Moloney via devel-announce
> wrote:
> > == Dependencies ==
> > * steam: adapt or drop RPM package from default third-party repositories
>
> IMHO whatever happens with steam should not be ou
Announcing the creation of a new nightly release validation test event
for Fedora 43 Rawhide 20250625.n.0. Please help run some tests for this
nightly compose if you have time. For more information on nightly
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https://fedoraproject.org/wiki
Wiki - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/X11Libre
Discussion thread -
https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f43-change-proposal-x11libre-system-wide/156330
This is a proposed Change for Fedora Linux.
This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes
process, proposals are pu
Once upon a time, Ian Pilcher said:
> Keeping in mind that some people won't be aware of this change before
> they pull the trigger on the update from F42 -> F43, this seems like it
> will render their IdM servers completely broken, with basically no path
> to recover it.
In the change proposal:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2374432
Paul Howarth changed:
What|Removed |Added
Status|NEW |CLOSED
Resolution|---
>
> To me the 'best' fix would be a SIG focused on an i686 micro-OS which
> delivers the packages in a format which can be easily used by Steam. This
> means the people working on it are using Steam, and know what needs to be
> tested to make Steam work. Anything else is always going to be a guessi
Hi Folks,
If you are thinking of submitting a System Wide[1] change for Fedora
Linux 43, you have about one week to do so. The deadline for
submission is July 1, 2025. The deadline for Self Contained changes is
July 22, 2025.
While your changes do not need to be complete by the submission
deadlin
> Wiki - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/X11Libre
Considering the overwhelmingly negative feedback, **I am hereby withdrawing
this Change proposal**.
The reasoning is twofold:
1. I have always argued that Changes that are overwhelmingly rejected by the
community should not be approved by
On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 18:30:39 +0100
Peter Robinson wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 at 18:21, Dan Horák wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 17:51:15 +0100
> > Peter Robinson wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 at 15:36, Stephen Smoogen wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 at 1
On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 at 18:21, Dan Horák wrote:
>
> On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 17:51:15 +0100
> Peter Robinson wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 at 15:36, Stephen Smoogen wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 at 10:21, Michael Catanzaro
> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> With Wine solved, i
On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 at 12:52, Peter Robinson wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 at 15:36, Stephen Smoogen wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 at 10:21, Michael Catanzaro
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> With Wine solved, it sounds like Steam is the only remaining concern.
> >>
> >> I think we could act
W dniu 25.06.2025 o 16:35, Stephen Smoogen pisze:
1. How are you going to remove it? Everyone add a ExcludeArch: , someone
fix koji to only allow a specific list? a shadow koji which only builds
for x86_32? etc
From what I read in the past I think that it would be better to rather
have someth
On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 11:02:56AM +0100, Aoife Moloney via devel-announce
wrote:
> Wiki - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Drop_i686_support
> Discussion thread -
> https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f43-change-proposal-drop-i686-support-system-wide/156324
This is very problematic not
On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 at 15:36, Stephen Smoogen wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 at 10:21, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
>>
>>
>> With Wine solved, it sounds like Steam is the only remaining concern.
>>
>> I think we could actually remove all 32-bit libraries *not* required by
>> Steam for Fedora *43*
On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 10:47 PM Adam Williamson
wrote:
> It doesn't, though. It still means we have to maintain all the weird
> infrastructure for putting i686 packages in x86_64 repos, and any other
> work we want to do on infrastructure or testing has to account for that
> weirdness. That, to
Dear all,
You are kindly invited to the meeting:
ELN SIG on 2025-06-26 from 15:00:00 to 16:00:00 US/Eastern
At meet...@fedoraproject.org
The meeting will be about:
Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/11018/
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On 6/25/25 9:19 AM, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
With Wine solved, it sounds like Steam is the only remaining concern.
I hate to be pessimistic but I think it is premature to say it is "solved" until
users use the new Wow64 mode. I'm trying to get the merge in this week.
What annoys me (in a lig
On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 at 10:21, Michael Catanzaro
wrote:
>
> With Wine solved, it sounds like Steam is the only remaining concern.
>
> I think we could actually remove all 32-bit libraries *not* required by
> Steam for Fedora *43*. That should probably be uncontroversial, right?
> I know that doesn
On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 4:20 PM Michael Catanzaro wrote:
>
>
> With Wine solved, it sounds like Steam is the only remaining concern.
>
Wine is not solved yet, though.
> I think we could actually remove all 32-bit libraries *not* required by
> Steam for Fedora *43*. That should probably be uncont
With Wine solved, it sounds like Steam is the only remaining concern.
I think we could actually remove all 32-bit libraries *not* required by
Steam for Fedora *43*. That should probably be uncontroversial, right?
I know that doesn't do anything to help with our infrastructure
concerns, but it
On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 11:54:29AM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> I wish discussion.fp.o posts were more like this ...
...it's almost like the folks who prefer to use email versus web
forums may have different priorities from each other.
But make no mistake, killing off will effectively end Fed
Hi,
I've played with LDIF export/import years before IPA, but there's still big
knowledge gap.
A SOHO installation is not rare and we need a detailed howto for in-place
migration (with obvious downtime)
This documentation is more critical because upstream (RHEL) doesn't support
this path.
Exam
On Wed, Jun 25, 2025, at 11:19, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> This is one of the periodic unusual Fedora change proposals where not
> adopting it, is defacto making a concious decision to force volunteers
> maintainers to continue to work on something that many consider to be
> undesirable and a tech
Meeting was canceled because of lack of quourum.
I'll chair the next meeting.
Zbyszek
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On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 11:19 AM Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 10:42:22AM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 7:46 PM Eduard Lucena
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello guys,
> > >
> > > As I did it in discussion.fp.o, I need to remind everyone that the late
On 2025/06/25 5:21, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
Chris Adams wrote:
Given the questionable changes made to X.Org by the lead (only?)
developer of X11Libre before being removed from the project, including
possible license violations
The "license violations" are actually moving a few lines of m
On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 6:02 PM Chris Adams wrote:
> Like - do many Steam games even run well on a true i686? I get
> targetting a lowest common base, but I can't imagine anybody is using a
> 32-bit-only system for playing games in 2025.
>
It certainly seems that Steam has zero or almost zero 3
On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 7:46 PM Eduard Lucena wrote:
>
> Hello guys,
>
> As I did it in discussion.fp.o, I need to remind everyone that the latest
> update of Fedora Strategy [1] that one the objectives is to grow our users
> base, so potentially killing gaming goes directly against that strateg
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