Re: f41 dnf builddeps fails to parse systemd.spec

2024-10-08 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/8/24 10:09 AM, Barry Scott wrote: Now I have systemd .src.rpm installed next I needed the build deps so that I can do a rpmbuild. $ sudo dnf builddep systemd.spec [sudo] password for barry: Updating and loading repositories: Fedora 41 - aarch64

Fedora eln compose report: 20241009.n.0 changes

2024-10-08 Thread Fedora ELN Report
OLD: Fedora-eln-20241008.n.0 NEW: Fedora-eln-20241009.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 0 Added packages: 3 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 15 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 391.40 KiB Size of dropped packages:0 B Size

Re: strawman proposal: homed directories for users

2024-10-08 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Oct 8, 2024, at 1:14 PM, Barry Scott wrote: > I like the idea of being able to reinstall and keep the /home. > But I'd rather not use systemd-homed to get the feature. It's an explicit feature request for the new installer's "Guided" partitioning path. The current UI (also for Fedora 4

Re: strawman proposal: homed directories for users

2024-10-08 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Oct 8, 2024, at 11:59 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mo, 07.10.24 20:55, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: > >> And at least on my setup with many read-only snapshots in >> ~/, permissions changes wouldn't be permitted, even by the root >> user. > > Not sure I grok what yo

Fedora 41 compose report: 20241008.n.0 changes

2024-10-08 Thread Fedora Branched Report
OLD: Fedora-41-20241007.n.0 NEW: Fedora-41-20241008.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:3 Dropped images: 0 Added packages: 1 Dropped packages:17 Upgraded packages: 196 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 271.03 KiB Size of dropped packages:60.80 MiB

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20241008.n.1 changes

2024-10-08 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20241007.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20241008.n.1 = SUMMARY = Added images:1 Dropped images: 8 Added packages: 6 Dropped packages:19 Upgraded packages: 269 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 1.28 MiB Size of dropped packages

Re: f41 dnf builddeps fails to parse systemd.spec

2024-10-08 Thread Barry
> On 8 Oct 2024, at 21:08, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > Dne 08. 10. 24 v 7:09 odp. Barry Scott napsal(a): >> Now I have systemd .src.rpm installed next I needed the build deps >> so that I can do a rpmbuild. > > Are you sure you want to install it on your workstation. The good habit is to > NOT

Re: f41 dnf builddeps fails to parse systemd.spec

2024-10-08 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 08. 10. 24 v 7:09 odp. Barry Scott napsal(a): Now I have systemd .src.rpm installed next I needed the build deps so that I can do a rpmbuild. Are you sure you want to install it on your workstation. The good habit is to NOT install builddeps and NOT running rpmbuild directly, but running

Re: [PROPOSAL] Enable nosync for the installability test in CI

2024-10-08 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, Oct 08, 2024 at 09:34:06PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 08. 10. 24 21:19, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 08, 2024 at 12:19:52PM +0200, Miroslav Vadkerti wrote: > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > On the verge to speed up installability test in CI we are proposing this > > > change to speed

Re: [PROPOSAL] Enable nosync for the installability test in CI

2024-10-08 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 08. 10. 24 21:19, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Tue, Oct 08, 2024 at 12:19:52PM +0200, Miroslav Vadkerti wrote: Hi folks, On the verge to speed up installability test in CI we are proposing this change to speed up significantly the testing: https://github.com/fedora-ci/installability-pipeline/

Re: [PROPOSAL] Enable nosync for the installability test in CI

2024-10-08 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, Oct 08, 2024 at 12:19:52PM +0200, Miroslav Vadkerti wrote: > Hi folks, > > On the verge to speed up installability test in CI we are proposing this > change to speed up significantly the testing: > > https://github.com/fedora-ci/installability-pipeline/pull/38 > > We would like to te

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2024-10-08)

2024-10-08 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
Text Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/meeting_matrix_fedoraproject-org/2024-10-08/fesco.2024-10-08-17.01.log.txt HTML Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/meeting_matrix_fedoraproject-org/2024-10-08/fesco.2024-10-08-17.01.log.html Text Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/meeting_m

Re: strawman proposal: homed directories for users

2024-10-08 Thread Barry Scott
> On 4 Oct 2024, at 16:05, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > Hi folks, > > I was recently doing a bunch of test reinstalls of Fedora [1], > looking to see if it's complicated to retain the user directories > during a reinstall. The answer is, sadly, that it's possible only with > some

f41 dnf builddeps fails to parse systemd.spec

2024-10-08 Thread Barry Scott
Now I have systemd .src.rpm installed next I needed the build deps so that I can do a rpmbuild. $ sudo dnf builddep systemd.spec [sudo] password for barry: Updating and loading repositories: Fedora 41 - aarch64 100% | 99.3 KiB/s | 18.3

Re: f41 rpm -i ~/systemd-256.6-1.fc41.src.rpm fails

2024-10-08 Thread Barry Scott
> On 8 Oct 2024, at 13:32, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > Or `dnf remove rpm-plugin-ima`. > It doesn't look like it's a hard dependency of anything vital. This is what I did and that fixed it, as expected. Barry -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lis

Re: strawman proposal: homed directories for users

2024-10-08 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Tue, Oct 8, 2024 at 12:35 PM Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Di, 08.10.24 12:23, Stephen Gallagher (sgall...@redhat.com) wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 8, 2024 at 12:19 PM Lennart Poettering > > wrote: > > > > > > On Di, 08.10.24 18:07, Fedora Development ML > > > (devel@lists.fedoraproject.org)

Re: strawman proposal: homed directories for users

2024-10-08 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Lennart Poettering said: > I am pretty sure all files inside of a home dir should carry the same > selinux label, identifying it as a user's file. That's incorrect, as there are a variety of restricted things, starting as basic as SSH keys and authorized hosts. -- Chris Adams

Re: strawman proposal: homed directories for users

2024-10-08 Thread Simon Farnsworth via devel
On Tuesday 8 October 2024 17:07:53 BST Kilian Hanich via devel wrote: > Am 08.10.24 um 17:32 schrieb Lennart Poettering: > > > For example, I am fundamentally opposed to the model > > these systems generally pursue of turning UID numbers into centrally, > > organization-wide managed concepts. > >

Re: strawman proposal: homed directories for users

2024-10-08 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Lennart Poettering said: > Oh, that hasn't been the case for a long time anymore. Nowadays files > on disk are owned by the "nobody" user always, and idmapped mounts are > used to map them transiently to the UID/GID assigned to the user on > the local machine. How do rootless co

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2024-10-08 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Tue, Oct 8, 2024 at 6:32 PM Peter Robinson wrote: > > Hi Fabio, > > > > rust-sval @rust-sig, orphan0 > > > weeks ago > > > rust-sval_buffer @rust-sig, orphan0 > > > weeks ago > > > rust-sval_derive @rust

Re: strawman proposal: homed directories for users

2024-10-08 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Di, 08.10.24 12:23, Stephen Gallagher (sgall...@redhat.com) wrote: > On Tue, Oct 8, 2024 at 12:19 PM Lennart Poettering > wrote: > > > > On Di, 08.10.24 18:07, Fedora Development ML > > (devel@lists.fedoraproject.org) wrote: > > > > > Am 08.10.24 um 17:32 schrieb Lennart Poettering: > > > >

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2024-10-08 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi Fabio, > > rust-sval @rust-sig, orphan0 weeks > > ago > > rust-sval_buffer @rust-sig, orphan0 weeks > > ago > > rust-sval_derive @rust-sig, orphan0 weeks > > ago > > rust-sval_derive_mac

Re: strawman proposal: homed directories for users

2024-10-08 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Di, 08.10.24 09:24, Neal Gompa (ngomp...@gmail.com) wrote: > On Tue, Oct 8, 2024 at 9:22 AM Michael Catanzaro > wrote: > > > > On Mon, Oct 7 2024 at 12:59:46 PM -04:00:00, Simo Sorce > > wrote: > > > Changing a default like this is not something to do lightly IMHO. > > > > I'm interested in

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2024-10-08 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Tue, Oct 8, 2024 at 6:07 PM wrote: (snip) > rust-sval @rust-sig, orphan0 weeks ago > rust-sval_buffer @rust-sig, orphan0 weeks ago > rust-sval_derive @rust-sig, orphan0 weeks ago > rust-s

Re: strawman proposal: homed directories for users

2024-10-08 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Tue, Oct 8, 2024 at 12:19 PM Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Di, 08.10.24 18:07, Fedora Development ML (devel@lists.fedoraproject.org) > wrote: > > > Am 08.10.24 um 17:32 schrieb Lennart Poettering: > > > For example, I am fundamentally opposed to the model > > > these systems generally pursu

Re: strawman proposal: homed directories for users

2024-10-08 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Di, 08.10.24 18:07, Fedora Development ML (devel@lists.fedoraproject.org) wrote: > Am 08.10.24 um 17:32 schrieb Lennart Poettering: > > For example, I am fundamentally opposed to the model > > these systems generally pursue of turning UID numbers into centrally, > > organization-wide managed c

Re: strawman proposal: homed directories for users

2024-10-08 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mo, 07.10.24 14:15, Alexander Bokovoy (aboko...@redhat.com) wrote: > > > https://github.com/fedora-selinux/selinux-policy/pull/939#issuecomment-1409217811 > > > No follow up happened on that, sadly. > > > > > > I do not see any work done on that yet. Without having SELinux support > > > properl

Re: strawman proposal: homed directories for users

2024-10-08 Thread Kilian Hanich via devel
Am 08.10.24 um 17:32 schrieb Lennart Poettering: For example, I am fundamentally opposed to the model these systems generally pursue of turning UID numbers into centrally, organization-wide managed concepts. Wait a second, some organization have more than 70k people (and in this day and age, the

Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2024-10-08 Thread maxwell
Report started at 2024-10-08 15:56:01 UTC The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_

Re: strawman proposal: homed directories for users

2024-10-08 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mo, 07.10.24 20:55, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: > > What happens if there are conflicts of uid or gid ? > > uid/gid are recursively changed at mount time to avoid > conflicts. For large homes, this could result in a lot of metadata > writes. Oh, that hasn't been the case for

Re: strawman proposal: homed directories for users

2024-10-08 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mo, 07.10.24 12:59, Simo Sorce (s...@redhat.com) wrote: > > The homed approach would make other things possible too. For example, > > sharing of /home in dual-boot scenarios. Right now a manual setup > > needs to be done, and login details need to be propagated each time, > > but with homed, du

Re: strawman proposal: homed directories for users

2024-10-08 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sa, 05.10.24 10:53, Alexander Bokovoy (aboko...@redhat.com) wrote: > > The homed approach would make other things possible too. For example, > > sharing of /home in dual-boot scenarios. Right now a manual setup > > needs to be done, and login details need to be propagated each time, > > but wit

Re: strawman proposal: homed directories for users

2024-10-08 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mo, 07.10.24 20:42, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: > > You should be able to combine the three sources of users freely > > without problems – if you like. But these three sources of user > > definitions should be on similar footing, and not try to abstract each > > other. > > > >

Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2024-10-08)

2024-10-08 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Tuesday at 17:00 UTC in #meeting:fedoraproject.org on Matrix. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2024-10-08 17:00 UTC' Links to all issues to be

Re: strawman proposal: homed directories for users

2024-10-08 Thread Simo Sorce
On Tue, 2024-10-08 at 08:22 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Mon, Oct 7 2024 at 12:59:46 PM -04:00:00, Simo Sorce > wrote: > > Changing a default like this is not something to do lightly IMHO. > > I'm interested in systemd-homed because we currently have no other > plausible path towards en

Re: strawman proposal: homed directories for users

2024-10-08 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Oct 8, 2024 at 9:22 AM Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 7 2024 at 12:59:46 PM -04:00:00, Simo Sorce > wrote: > > Changing a default like this is not something to do lightly IMHO. > > I'm interested in systemd-homed because we currently have no other > plausible path towards encryp

Re: strawman proposal: homed directories for users

2024-10-08 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, Oct 7 2024 at 12:59:46 PM -04:00:00, Simo Sorce wrote: Changing a default like this is not something to do lightly IMHO. I'm interested in systemd-homed because we currently have no other plausible path towards encryption of user data by default [1] (since use of LUKS full-disk encry

New Matrix for discussions of RamaLama on Fedora.

2024-10-08 Thread Daniel Walsh
We decided to move off of Discord to matrix, to be better supporting of Open Source projects. https://matrix.to/#/#ramalama:fedoraproject.org RamaLama is a new project to allow use of AI Models easier. ramalama run MODEL Will pull down a model from HuggingFace, Ollama or an OCI Container Reg

Re: Package updates missing in Fedora 41 but present in Fedora 40

2024-10-08 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Thu, Oct 3, 2024 at 3:43 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 27, 2024 at 1:13 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > It's that time of the year again - pointing out packages that are at a > > lower version in Fedora 41 (branched) than Fedora 40 (stable). > > For those that are

Re: f41 rpm -i ~/systemd-256.6-1.fc41.src.rpm fails

2024-10-08 Thread Mimi Zohar
On Tue, 2024-10-08 at 14:32 +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Tue, Oct 8, 2024 at 2:27 PM Mimi Zohar wrote: > > > > At least for now, use rpm "--noplugins" option to avoid writing the file > > signatures. > > Or `dnf remove rpm-plugin-ima`. > It doesn't look like it's a hard dependency of anyth

utf8proc SONAME bump

2024-10-08 Thread Tomas Korbar
Hi, In the near future I will rebase utf8proc to 2.9.0 in rawhide. This change introduced SONAME bump, thus I created a side tag so all dependent packages can be rebuilt. I also submitted bugs for the affected packages. So if you received such a bug please do a rebuild. Thanks for the cooperation

Re: Removal of vesa and fbdev X.org drivers from Rawhide

2024-10-08 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Tue, 2024-10-08 at 11:02 +0200, Javier Martinez Canillas wrote: > Peter Robinson writes: > > Hello Peter and Adam, > > > Hi Adam, > > > > > I noticed that the vesa and fbdev X.org drivers were recently > > > retired > > > from Rawhide. There appears to be no Change for this. The commit > >

Re: f41 rpm -i ~/systemd-256.6-1.fc41.src.rpm fails

2024-10-08 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Tue, Oct 8, 2024 at 2:27 PM Mimi Zohar wrote: > > At least for now, usse rpm "--noplugins" option to avoid writing the file > signatures. Or `dnf remove rpm-plugin-ima`. It doesn't look like it's a hard dependency of anything vital. Fabio -- ___ de

Re: f41 rpm -i ~/systemd-256.6-1.fc41.src.rpm fails

2024-10-08 Thread Mimi Zohar
At least for now, usse rpm "--noplugins" option to avoid writing the file signatures. Mimi -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://do

[PROPOSAL] Enable nosync for the installability test in CI

2024-10-08 Thread Miroslav Vadkerti
Hi folks, On the verge to speed up installability test in CI we are proposing this change to speed up significantly the testing: https://github.com/fedora-ci/installability-pipeline/pull/38 We would like to test drive this change for Fedora CI first. Please provide the feedback to this PR,

Re: f41 rpm -i ~/systemd-256.6-1.fc41.src.rpm fails

2024-10-08 Thread Roberto Sassu
On Tue, 2024-10-08 at 12:14 +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote: > On 10/6/24 12:42 AM, Barry wrote: > > > > > > > On 5 Oct 2024, at 18:32, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > > > > > On the other hand, the error message you're seeing is from the IMA > > > plugin. So I assume you've enabled rpm-plugin-ima? >

Re: f41 rpm -i ~/systemd-256.6-1.fc41.src.rpm fails

2024-10-08 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 10/6/24 12:42 AM, Barry wrote: On 5 Oct 2024, at 18:32, Fabio Valentini wrote: On the other hand, the error message you're seeing is from the IMA plugin. So I assume you've enabled rpm-plugin-ima? This a f39 aarch64 upgraded to f40 then f41 with no customisations. (There are no f40 or

Re: Removal of vesa and fbdev X.org drivers from Rawhide

2024-10-08 Thread Javier Martinez Canillas
Peter Robinson writes: Hello Peter and Adam, > Hi Adam, > >> I noticed that the vesa and fbdev X.org drivers were recently retired >> from Rawhide. There appears to be no Change for this. The commit I remember that there was a Change for this filed by Ajax some time ago: https://fedoraproject.