Re: F42 Change Proposal: Enable Drm Panic (system-wide)

2024-07-12 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 01:21:41PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 1:12 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 05:53:25PM +0100, Aoife Moloney wrote: > > > In order to enable DRM_PANIC, you need to disable VT_CONSOLE in the > > > kernel > > > > T

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2024-07-09)

2024-07-12 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 3:18 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 09:11:49AM GMT, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > > Well, one thing that we ALSO lost in the conversion to Matrix was that > > the minutes used to include links to the full text (in both text and > > HTML formats) on meetb

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2024-07-09)

2024-07-12 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 09:11:49AM GMT, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > Well, one thing that we ALSO lost in the conversion to Matrix was that > the minutes used to include links to the full text (in both text and > HTML formats) on meetbot.fedoraproject.org > In that case, the summary was enough to

Re: F41 Change Proposal: Self Encrypting Drives Support in the Installer (self-contained)

2024-07-12 Thread Vojtech Trefny
With BitLocker the hardware encryption was enabled by default, which is not what is being proposed. Even now it is still possible to configure BitLocker to use hardware encryption. It's up to the user to decide whether the performance benefits are worth trusting the hardware vendor and their propri

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Enable Drm Panic (system-wide)

2024-07-12 Thread Ian Pilcher
On 7/12/24 11:53 AM, Aoife Moloney wrote: Supported drivers are simpledrm, mgag200, ast, (and imx, tidss, on aarch64). I'm working on nouveau support, and I hope i915 and amdgpu will add support too. If the driver is not supported, you won't see the panic screen, but it won't be worse than what y

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Enable Drm Panic (system-wide)

2024-07-12 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 1:12 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 05:53:25PM +0100, Aoife Moloney wrote: > > In order to enable DRM_PANIC, you need to disable VT_CONSOLE in the > > kernel > > The idea for DRM_PANIC is nice, but I worry about the impact of disabling > V

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Enable Drm Panic (system-wide)

2024-07-12 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 05:53:25PM +0100, Aoife Moloney wrote: > In order to enable DRM_PANIC, you need to disable VT_CONSOLE in the > kernel The idea for DRM_PANIC is nice, but I worry about the impact of disabling VT_CONSOLE. Plymouth is not used everywhere, e.g. what about cloud images and such

F42 Change Proposal: Enable Drm Panic (system-wide)

2024-07-12 Thread Aoife Moloney
Wiki - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/EnableDrmPanic Discussion Thread - https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f42-change-proposal-enable-drm-panic-system-wide/125542 This is a proposed Change for Fedora Linux. This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes process, pr

Re: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : ELN SIG

2024-07-12 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 3:24 PM Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 8:01 AM wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > > > You are kindly invited to the meeting: > >ELN SIG on 2024-07-12 from 12:00:00 to 13:00:00 US/Eastern > >At fedora-meet...@irc.libera.chat > > > > The meeting will

F41 Change Proposal: Default podman created images to zstd:chunked (self-contained)

2024-07-12 Thread Aoife Moloney
Wiki - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/zstd:chunked Discussion Thread - https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f41-change-proposal-default-podman-created-images-to-zstd-chunked-self-contained/125540 This is a proposed Change for Fedora Linux. This document represents a proposed Change. As p

Re: *****SPAM***** Enabling GOPROXY and GOSUMDB in Fedora

2024-07-12 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 11/07/2024 13:16, Chris Suszynski wrote: Fedora does not patch out calls to sites vcpkg package has telemetry disabled by default. -- Sincerely, Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.org) -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org T

Re: F41 Change Proposal: Self Encrypting Drives Support in the Installer (self-contained)

2024-07-12 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 12/07/2024 17:54, Aoife Moloney wrote: Add optional support for using native hardware encryption on TCG OPAL2 compliant drives when configuring disk encryption in the installer. The hardware encryption implementation can't be verified and can't be trusted[1]. Even Microsoft has switched Bit

F41 Change Proposal: Taskwarrior 3 (self-contained)

2024-07-12 Thread Aoife Moloney
Wiki - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Taskwarrior3 Discussion Thread - https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f41-change-proposal-taskwarrior-3-self-contained/125531 This is a proposed Change for Fedora Linux. This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes process, prop

F41 Change Proposal: Self Encrypting Drives Support in the Installer (self-contained)

2024-07-12 Thread Aoife Moloney
Wiki - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/SelfEncryptingDrivesSupportInAnaconda Discussion thread - https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f41-change-proposal-self-encrypting-drives-support-in-the-installer-self-contained/125529 This is a proposed Change for Fedora Linux. This document repres

F41 Change Proposal: Netavark Nftables Default (self-contained)

2024-07-12 Thread Aoife Moloney
Wiki - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NetavarkNftablesDefault Discussion Thread - https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f41-change-proposal-netavark-nftables-default-self-contained/125528 This is a proposed Change for Fedora Linux. This document represents a proposed Change. As part of th

Re: *****SPAM***** Enabling GOPROXY and GOSUMDB in Fedora

2024-07-12 Thread Ahmed Almeleh
Personally I agree with maxwells stance fedora is a privacy friendly distro. On Fri, 12 Jul 2024 at 12:03, Ralf Corsépius wrote: > > > Am 11.07.24 um 1:16 PM schrieb Chris Suszynski: > >> I support keeping the Google Go module proxy disabled by default. Our > packages should not send telemetry d

F42 Change Proposal: Tomcat 10.1.x (self-contained)

2024-07-12 Thread Aoife Moloney
Wiki - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Tomcat10ChangeProposal Discussion Thread - https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f42-change-proposal-tomcat-10-1-x-self-contained/125526 This is a proposed Change for Fedora Linux. This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes pro

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2024-07-09)

2024-07-12 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 7:38 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 01:46:04PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > > I'm saying the thing they > > are doing today is not really valuable for a consumer base that wasn't > > in the meeting. If they want to make it better, AI is a t

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2024-07-09)

2024-07-12 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 01:46:04PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > I'm saying the thing they > are doing today is not really valuable for a consumer base that wasn't > in the meeting. If they want to make it better, AI is a tool that is > actually pretty simple to use to do that without a ton of effort

Re: whatcanidoforfedora.org is stale

2024-07-12 Thread Stephen Smoogen
On Fri, 12 Jul 2024 at 03:06, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > I looked at the page today, and it advertises: > - modularity > - in the python section: > - abrt (attention here would be welcome, but isn't the project mostly dead?) > - dnf (not in Python anymore…) > - portingdb ("a dyna

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2024-07-09)

2024-07-12 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 11:33:07AM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > I just want better summaries than what zodbot is currently providing I agree that the summaries aren't great. The formatting is worse than what we had on IRC. This is something that we should improve. > (which aren't reviewed either af

Re: whatcanidoforfedora.org is stale

2024-07-12 Thread Cristian Le via devel
On 2024/07/12 11:49, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: Should we just put a huge redirect on whatcanidoforfedora to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Welcome? I edited https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Welcome to have the nice "Welcome to Fedora!" banner at the top. The page was a bit cool without a

Re: whatcanidoforfedora.org is stale

2024-07-12 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 09:49:45 GMT, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > Should we just put a huge redirect on whatcanidoforfedora to > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Welcome? > > I edited https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Welcome to have the nice > "Welcome to Fedora!" banner at the top. The page was

Re: *****SPAM***** Enabling GOPROXY and GOSUMDB in Fedora

2024-07-12 Thread Ralf Corsépius
Am 11.07.24 um 1:16 PM schrieb Chris Suszynski: I support keeping the Google Go module proxy disabled by default. Our packages should not send telemetry data to Google without explicit opt-in. What's the reason for treating Go differently than other languages? Fedora does not patch out call

Re: whatcanidoforfedora.org is stale

2024-07-12 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 09:57:56AM +0100, Ankur Sinha wrote: > Hello, > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 07:03:57 GMT, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > I looked at the page today, and it advertises: > > - modularity > > - in the python section: > > - abrt (attention here would be welcome, but isn't

Re: whatcanidoforfedora.org is stale

2024-07-12 Thread Ankur Sinha
Hello, On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 07:03:57 GMT, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > I looked at the page today, and it advertises: > - modularity > - in the python section: > - abrt (attention here would be welcome, but isn't the project mostly dead?) > - dnf (not in Python anymore…) > - portingd

Re: Koji side tag -- how to use an older build?

2024-07-12 Thread Jan Pazdziora
On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 03:45:35PM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 10:55:03PM GMT, Jan Pazdziora wrote: > > > > But when I run the scratch build, I still get the latest greatest > > build from f40-updates. So it seems tagging into my child tag (target) > > does not "override" t

whatcanidoforfedora.org is stale

2024-07-12 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
I looked at the page today, and it advertises: - modularity - in the python section: - abrt (attention here would be welcome, but isn't the project mostly dead?) - dnf (not in Python anymore…) - portingdb ("a dynamic database of Python 2 packages needing to be updated to Python 3") Rust is