Re: Self Introduction: Rafel Amer

2023-12-11 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
Welcome to Fedora, Rafel! On Sunday, 10 December 2023 at 22:17, Rafel Amer Ramon wrote: >Hi, >my name is Rafel Amer and I'm professor at the Technical University of >Catalonia [1]https:/www.upc.edu. I teach Maths >and I use sagemath for my classes. After the sagemath package is >

Re: Fedora Review Service and setting the AutomationTriaged keyword

2023-12-11 Thread Benson Muite
Many thanks Jakub. It is a helpful tool. Hopefully it will also encourage more community contributions to help improve and update Fedora Review as well. -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le.

Re: goal: booting with an empty /etc

2023-12-11 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, Dec 11, 2023, at 12:31 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: > > We're currently not allowed to use /usr/etc (not that I like that path > anyway) because it breaks RPM-OSTree. My understanding is that this > directory is reserved by RPM-OSTree for storing pristine copies of > /etc content for each OSTre

OCaml 5.1.1 rebuild in Rawhide

2023-12-11 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
.. is under way: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2239227 Shouldn't take more than a day or two, with any luck! In terms of the new version, nothing much to see here. There a three important regressions that are fixed, and one breaking change that is unlikely to be noticed: https:/

Re: goal: booting with an empty /etc

2023-12-11 Thread David Cantrell
On 12/11/23 12:31, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 11:36 AM David Cantrell wrote: >> >> On 12/8/23 10:25, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >>> On Fri, Dec 8, 2023 at 9:58 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek >>> wrote: Hi, There is a long-term goal of moving packaged files out o

armadillo soname bump to version 12

2023-12-11 Thread Ryan Curtin
Hello there, I plan to bump the major version of the Armadillo linear algebra library to version 12 for rawhide next week; this will be an ABI/API change. I will rebuild the package and its dependencies (looks like gdal and mlpack only) in the side tag 'f40-build-side-79101'. Thanks! Ryan --

Re: Should we retire the mailx package?

2023-12-11 Thread Nikola Forró
I've opened [1], please take a look. After it is merged, I'll start the package retirement process for mailx. Thanks, Nikola [1] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/s-nail/pull-request/3 -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsub

Re: goal: booting with an empty /etc

2023-12-11 Thread Stephen Smoogen
On Mon, 11 Dec 2023 at 12:34, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 11:36 AM David Cantrell > wrote: > > > > On 12/8/23 10:25, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 8, 2023 at 9:58 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > > > wrote: > > >> > > >> Hi, > > >> > > >> There is a long-term goal o

Re: Proven to be sickened

2023-12-11 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 08:28:31AM -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > While I generally agree that a merge request is a more polite and > elegant solution, if a package is listed as FTBFS (having had a bug > automatically opened) and some reasonable amount of time (two, three > weeks?) has passed

Re: Fedora Review Service and setting the AutomationTriaged keyword

2023-12-11 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Thanks for working on this Jakub. I think it's quite useful. :) kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of

Re: goal: booting with an empty /etc

2023-12-11 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 11:36 AM David Cantrell wrote: > > On 12/8/23 10:25, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 8, 2023 at 9:58 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > > wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> There is a long-term goal of moving packaged files out of /etc, so that > >> only actual local co

Re: Help packaging PyTorch dependencies for Fedora

2023-12-11 Thread Steve Grubb
On Monday, December 11, 2023 4:59:45 AM EST Tim Flink wrote: > On 12/8/23 08:34, Steve Grubb wrote: > > On Friday, December 8, 2023 12:41:59 AM EST Jun Aruga (he / him) wrote: > > > >> Congratulations for the PyTorch package! > >> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-torch > >> > >> I hope so

Re: goal: booting with an empty /etc

2023-12-11 Thread David Cantrell
On 12/8/23 10:25, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On Fri, Dec 8, 2023 at 9:58 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> There is a long-term goal of moving packaged files out of /etc, so that >> only actual local configuration remains in /etc. This has some advantages: >> >> - Local confi

Re: goal: booting with an empty /etc

2023-12-11 Thread DJ Delorie
Lennart Poettering writes: > Well, as you might be aware many distributions these days do more than > "files dns" for "hosts", and similar for the other databases, and > hence a built-in default in glibc is great, but most distributions and > image builders probably want to pick different defaults

Re: goal: booting with an empty /etc

2023-12-11 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Peter Boy said: > I would like to go even further and also separate distribution default code > and locally installed code in the /usr tree. OpenSuse has developed a good > proposal for this some time ago. More separation than /usr vs. /usr/local? -- Chris Adams -- ___

Re: goal: booting with an empty /etc

2023-12-11 Thread Daniel Walsh
On 12/11/23 09:55, Peter Boy wrote: Am 11.12.2023 um 15:09 schrieb David Both : What is the objective of achieving this "boot with empty /etc"? What does it accomplish? What problem does it solve? For me, from a sysadmin POV, the great advantage is the clear separation of sysadmin made confi

Re: goal: booting with an empty /etc

2023-12-11 Thread Peter Boy
> Am 11.12.2023 um 15:09 schrieb David Both : > > What is the objective of achieving this "boot with empty /etc"? What > does it accomplish? What problem does it solve? For me, from a sysadmin POV, the great advantage is the clear separation of sysadmin made configuration and distribution prov

Re: goal: booting with an empty /etc

2023-12-11 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 09:09:33AM -0500, David Both wrote: > > I think I understand the immediate goal here, but I am still confused. > What is the objective of achieving this "boot with empty /etc"? What > does it accomplish? What problem does it solve? Is it a solution for a > small use case su

Re: goal: booting with an empty /etc

2023-12-11 Thread David Both
I think I understand the immediate goal here, but I am still confused. What is the objective of achieving this "boot with empty /etc"? What does it accomplish? What problem does it solve? Is it a solution for a small use case such as containers or something else? What problem does it solve for me

Re: Help packaging PyTorch dependencies for Fedora

2023-12-11 Thread Tom Rix
On 12/8/23 7:34 AM, Steve Grubb wrote: On Friday, December 8, 2023 12:41:59 AM EST Jun Aruga (he / him) wrote: Congratulations for the PyTorch package! https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-torch I hope someone will announce this great achievement to the Fedora community too, and update th

Re: goal: booting with an empty /etc

2023-12-11 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 09:58:04AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek: > > >> No, it would be the other way round. We might have a > >> /usr/share/glibc/services which contains :include: /etc/services > >> somewhere in it. > > > > Ah, OK. I understand how the format woul

Re: Proven to be sickened

2023-12-11 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Sun, Dec 10, 2023 at 9:49 PM Gary Buhrmaster wrote: ... > > FTBFS issues are, admittedly, complicated, but > such updates SHOULD be via a PR. If a PP wants > to claim they cannot follow that process, they need > to demonstrate that a particular packager is not > responsive (there is a process

Re: Should we retire the mailx package?

2023-12-11 Thread Tomas Korbar
Hi guys, I am ok with retiring the mailx package so s-nail can become the primary supplier of the mailx command. On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 1:05 PM Jonathan Wakely wrote: > On Mon, 11 Dec 2023 at 12:03, Jonathan Wakely wrote: > > > > On Fri, 8 Dec 2023 at 18:47, Adam Williamson > wrote: > > > > >

Re: Should we retire the mailx package?

2023-12-11 Thread Jonathan Wakely
On Mon, 11 Dec 2023 at 12:03, Jonathan Wakely wrote: > > On Fri, 8 Dec 2023 at 18:47, Adam Williamson > wrote: > > > > On Fri, 2023-12-08 at 10:38 -0800, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > I'm definitely in favor. I hit this broken step a while back myself. ;( > > > > > > Hopefully the current maintainers

Re: Should we retire the mailx package?

2023-12-11 Thread Jonathan Wakely
On Fri, 8 Dec 2023 at 18:47, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Fri, 2023-12-08 at 10:38 -0800, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > I'm definitely in favor. I hit this broken step a while back myself. ;( > > > > Hopefully the current maintainers are on board with this? > > Yeah, honestly, I'm not sure a Change is t

Fedora Linux 39 Elections Voting are now Open!

2023-12-11 Thread Aoife Moloney
Hi all, The F39 elections voting period has now opened for FESCo , Mindshare and Council . V

Re: Change of cronie and crontabs CIS compliance

2023-12-11 Thread Petr Lautrbach
Ondrej Pohorelsky writes: > I've removed cron.allow from my PR[0] and reverted to cron.deny approach. > As this was the only disputed change in these PRs so far, I plan on merging > both of them into rawhide at the end of this week. > However, if you see any issue with merging this "middle ground

Re: Fedora Review Service and setting the AutomationTriaged keyword

2023-12-11 Thread Jakub Kadlcik
Thank you for the feedback Dominik, > Cool! Go for it. > Great idea. I am going for it then :-) On Sat, Dec 9, 2023 at 10:20 PM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski < domi...@greysector.net> wrote: > On Saturday, 09 December 2023 at 19:32, Jakub Kadlcik wrote: > > Hello, > > a year ago I announced >

Re: Change of cronie and crontabs CIS compliance

2023-12-11 Thread Ondrej Pohorelsky
I've removed cron.allow from my PR[0] and reverted to cron.deny approach. As this was the only disputed change in these PRs so far, I plan on merging both of them into rawhide at the end of this week. However, if you see any issue with merging this "middle ground" change, feel free to discuss. [0]

Re: Help packaging PyTorch dependencies for Fedora

2023-12-11 Thread Tim Flink
On 12/9/23 14:47, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: On Friday, 08 December 2023 at 16:34, Steve Grubb wrote: On Friday, December 8, 2023 12:41:59 AM EST Jun Aruga (he / him) wrote: Congratulations for the PyTorch package! https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-torch I hope someone wil

Re: Help packaging PyTorch dependencies for Fedora

2023-12-11 Thread Tim Flink
On 12/8/23 08:34, Steve Grubb wrote: On Friday, December 8, 2023 12:41:59 AM EST Jun Aruga (he / him) wrote: Congratulations for the PyTorch package! https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-torch I hope someone will announce this great achievement to the Fedora community too, and update the f

Re: Help packaging PyTorch dependencies for Fedora

2023-12-11 Thread Tim Flink
On 12/7/23 22:41, Jun Aruga (he / him) wrote: Congratulations for the PyTorch package! https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-torch I hope someone will announce this great achievement to the Fedora community too, and update the following page too. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/PyTorch/p

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20231211.n.0 changes

2023-12-11 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20231210.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20231211.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:4 Dropped images: 2 Added packages: 3 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 26 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 179.08 MiB Size of dropped packages:0

Re: goal: booting with an empty /etc

2023-12-11 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fr, 08.12.23 20:20, DJ Delorie (d...@redhat.com) wrote: > Lennart Poettering writes: > > That said, I would certainly enjoy more if glibc would natively > > fallback to /usr/lib/glibc/nsswitch.conf or something like that if > > /etc/nsswitch.conf does not exist. > > glibc has an internal defau

Re: goal: booting with an empty /etc

2023-12-11 Thread Florian Weimer
* Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek: >> No, it would be the other way round. We might have a >> /usr/share/glibc/services which contains :include: /etc/services >> somewhere in it. > > Ah, OK. I understand how the format would look, but I don't understand > why you'd want to implement it rather than so