Schedule for Thursday's FESCo Meeting (2023-07-27)

2023-07-26 Thread Tom Stellard
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Thursday at 17:00UTC in #fedora-meeting-2 on irc.libera.chat. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2023-07-27 17:00 UTC' Links to all issues to be

Re: fedora-review workarounds for dnf5

2023-07-26 Thread Sandro
On 26-07-2023 17:36, Jakub Kadlcik wrote: Hello Sandro, I noticed that in f39 builds in Copr the directory containing the results is now named after the package. Comparing that to the "traditional" fedora-review directory in f38 builds, I miss the `licensecheck.txt` file. It suddenly started

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Enable fwupd-refresh.timer by default on IoT, CoreOS & Server Editions (Self-Contained)

2023-07-26 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Wednesday, 26 July 2023 at 21:11, Björn Persson wrote: > Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > On 26/07/2023 11:04, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > > > You could, for example, buy a supported Logitech > > > Receiver > > > > I don't recommend anyone to buy this proprietary hardware: > >

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Enable fwupd-refresh.timer by default on IoT, CoreOS & Server Editions (Self-Contained)

2023-07-26 Thread Björn Persson
Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > On 26/07/2023 11:04, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > > You could, for example, buy a supported Logitech > > Receiver > > I don't recommend anyone to buy this proprietary hardware: For years I tried to use Bluetooth mice, thinking a standard would be pre

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in August

2023-07-26 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 06:45:41PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > IMHO it is what the policy says, quite explicitly: > > From > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/#_package_removal_for_long_standing_ftbfs_and_fti_bugs > > """ > Cca six weeks befo

Re: fedora-review workarounds for dnf5

2023-07-26 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 05:36:04PM +0200, Jakub Kadlcik wrote: > Hello Sandro, > > > I noticed that in f39 builds in Copr the directory containing the > > results is now named after the package. Comparing that to the > > "traditional" fedora-review directory in f38 builds, I miss the > > `licensec

Re: fedora-review workarounds for dnf5

2023-07-26 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 09:47:32PM -0500, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: > Hi all, > > On Mon, Jul 17, 2023 at 10:54:43AM -0600, Jerry James wrote: > > Like many of you, I have been quite inconvenienced because of > > dnf5-related breakage of fedora-review. I've been monkeying with it > > today an

Re: Restricting automounting of uncommon filesystems?

2023-07-26 Thread Eric Sandeen
On 7/24/23 10:40 PM, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: On 7/24/23 15:11, Eric Sandeen wrote: On 7/23/23 7:22 PM, Steve Grubb wrote: On Saturday, July 22, 2023 2:01:34 AM EDT Matthew Garrett wrote: A discussion within Debian again brought up the problem that: 1) Automounting of removable media exposes

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Enable fwupd-refresh.timer by default on IoT, CoreOS & Server Editions (Self-Contained)

2023-07-26 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 26/07/2023 11:24, Alexander Ploumistos wrote: What Dominik wrote would apply e.g. for an NVMe replacement drive from Kingston or Samsung (proprietary hardware too, it's a shocker). None of my 5 Samsung SSDs are supported (3 NVMe and 2 SATA). But they can be updated from MS Windows. I gues

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Enable fwupd-refresh.timer by default on IoT, CoreOS & Server Editions (Self-Contained)

2023-07-26 Thread Leon Fauster via devel
Am 26.07.23 um 18:00 schrieb Chris Adams: Once upon a time, Solomon Peachy said: None of the other SSDs I have deployed (Samsung and Crucual SATA) are updatable via LVFS, unfortunately. But, hilariously, both Samsung and Crucial's official updaters appear to be self-contained linux ISOs. So c

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired (and similar reports)

2023-07-26 Thread Frank Dana
On Tue, Jul 25, 2023, 10:18 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > Dear maintainers. > > Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following > packages > should be retired from Fedora 39 approximately one week before branching. > > 5 weekly reminders are required, hence the retirement will hap

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Enable fwupd-refresh.timer by default on IoT, CoreOS & Server Editions (Self-Contained)

2023-07-26 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 3:37 PM Ralf Corsépius wrote: > > > > Am 26.07.23 um 15:55 schrieb Solomon Peachy via devel: > > On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 09:45:13AM +0200, Ralf Corsépius wrote: > >> It could be "my bubble", but for me, in all these fwupd is around, it has > >> never, ever worked on any pie

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Enable fwupd-refresh.timer by default on IoT, CoreOS & Server Editions (Self-Contained)

2023-07-26 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Solomon Peachy said: > None of the other SSDs I have deployed (Samsung and Crucual SATA) are > updatable via LVFS, unfortunately. But, hilariously, both Samsung and > Crucial's official updaters appear to be self-contained linux ISOs. So > clearly the technical capability is

Re: Flock CFP: Language SIGs discussion

2023-07-26 Thread Maxwell G
On Wed Jul 26, 2023 at 14:09 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Wed, Jul 05, 2023 at 01:39:47PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 5, 2023 at 8:23 AM Jens-Ulrik Petersen > > wrote: > > > > > > I have submitted a Flock proposal to have a common discussion session for > > >

Re: fedora-review workarounds for dnf5

2023-07-26 Thread Jakub Kadlcik
Hello Sandro, > I noticed that in f39 builds in Copr the directory containing the > results is now named after the package. Comparing that to the > "traditional" fedora-review directory in f38 builds, I miss the > `licensecheck.txt` file. It suddenly started happening and I don't know what is to

Re: Unannounced soname bump: libotf

2023-07-26 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> Gary Buhrmaster writes: > I have found that using something like libfoo.so.X{,.*} in the %files > directive can be a useful reminder (enforcer) to reduce such surprises > (that particular glob presumes semantic versioning, and that minor and > patch level updates do not require rebuilds, bu

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Enable fwupd-refresh.timer by default on IoT, CoreOS & Server Editions (Self-Contained)

2023-07-26 Thread Solomon Peachy via devel
On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 04:36:13PM +0200, Ralf Corsépius wrote: > My (older) lenovo laptop and my HPE Micro-Server are obviously not. The laptop is a T495 (introduced late 2019), but the workstation is an older HP Z440 (introduced in late 2014!) > This is the second time, somebody mentions Samsu

Re: Unannounced soname bump: libotf

2023-07-26 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 1:56 PM Michal Schorm wrote: > > My apologies ! > I built the new version when cleaning old PRs and I failed to check > for the soname bump. > Thank you for cleaning up after me. I will try my best to remember to > check it next time. I have found that using something like

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Enable fwupd-refresh.timer by default on IoT, CoreOS & Server Editions (Self-Contained)

2023-07-26 Thread Ralf Corsépius
Am 26.07.23 um 15:55 schrieb Solomon Peachy via devel: On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 09:45:13AM +0200, Ralf Corsépius wrote: It could be "my bubble", but for me, in all these fwupd is around, it has never, ever worked on any piece of HW for me. Most of the stuff I have that is updated through fwup

Re: Macros in side-tag

2023-07-26 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 04:19:05PM +0200, Ralf Corsépius wrote: > > > Am 26.07.23 um 13:46 schrieb Vít Ondruch: > > > I think that Perl folks are using something aka %perl_bootstrap. Not > > sure if this is just for historic reasons and they could eventually > > migrate to regular bootstrap meth

Re: Macros in side-tag

2023-07-26 Thread Ralf Corsépius
Am 26.07.23 um 13:46 schrieb Vít Ondruch: I think that Perl folks are using something aka %perl_bootstrap. Not sure if this is just for historic reasons and they could eventually migrate to regular bootstrap method. No, it's not historical. Perl has cyclic dependencies. To break them, some

Re: Flock CFP: Language SIGs discussion

2023-07-26 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jul 05, 2023 at 01:39:47PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Wed, Jul 5, 2023 at 8:23 AM Jens-Ulrik Petersen > wrote: > > > > I have submitted a Flock proposal to have a common discussion session for > > (modern) Language SIGs. I think for this to be successful we need > > representati

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Enable fwupd-refresh.timer by default on IoT, CoreOS & Server Editions (Self-Contained)

2023-07-26 Thread Solomon Peachy via devel
On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 11:48:36AM +0300, Alexander Ploumistos wrote: > That would require people volunteering to potentially brick their > machines in order to test the updates. If something goes wrong, the > equipment (and the knowledge) necessary to reprogram a chip is rather > scarce. I'm afrai

Re: libarrow (Apache Arrow) soname bump in Rawhide

2023-07-26 Thread Kaleb Keithley
The update to 13.0.0 is on hold due to FTBFS on s390x. Waiting for a fix from the devs. On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 10:06 AM Kaleb Keithley wrote: > > > On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 8:01 AM Kaleb Keithley wrote: > >> >> >> Now Apache Arrow 12.0.0 has been released. >> >> Rebase landing soon in Rawhide.

Re: Macros in side-tag

2023-07-26 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 03:45:32PM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > Dne 26. 07. 23 v 13:13 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek napsal(a): > > On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 12:30:00PM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Koji has grown new functionality to enable setting macros in side-tag: > > > > > >

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Enable fwupd-refresh.timer by default on IoT, CoreOS & Server Editions (Self-Contained)

2023-07-26 Thread Solomon Peachy via devel
On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 09:45:13AM +0200, Ralf Corsépius wrote: > It could be "my bubble", but for me, in all these fwupd is around, it has > never, ever worked on any piece of HW for me. Most of the stuff I have that is updated through fwupd are peripherals [1] that are independent of the system

Re: Unannounced soname bump: libotf

2023-07-26 Thread Michal Schorm
My apologies ! I built the new version when cleaning old PRs and I failed to check for the soname bump. Thank you for cleaning up after me. I will try my best to remember to check it next time. Michal -- Michal Schorm Software Engineer Core Services - Databases Team Red Hat -- On Wed, Jul 26,

Re: Macros in side-tag

2023-07-26 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 26. 07. 23 v 13:13 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek napsal(a): On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 12:30:00PM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: Hi, Koji has grown new functionality to enable setting macros in side-tag: https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11254 I have asked FeSCo to approve to use them: https://pagur

Re: Unannounced soname bump: libotf

2023-07-26 Thread Scott Talbert
On Tue, 25 Jul 2023, Scott Talbert wrote: libotf was just bumped from libotf.so.0 to libotf.so.1. $ dnf repoquery --whatrequires 'libotf.so.0()(64bit)' --disablerepo='*' --enablerepo=rawhide emacs-1:28.2-6.fc39.x86_64 emacs-lucid-1:28.2-6.fc39.x86_64 libotf-devel-0:0.9.13-22.fc38.x86_64 m17n-

Re: Flock CFP: Language SIGs discussion

2023-07-26 Thread Jens-Ulrik Petersen
On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 6:11 PM Miroslav Suchý wrote: > Dne 13. 07. 23 v 10:45 Florian Festi napsal(a): > > As it is relevant for this meeting may be someone that attended my > > workshop can give a 3 or 5 minute summary of the new Dynamic Spec > > I can volunteer. I was on your workshop and I wi

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Enable fwupd-refresh.timer by default on IoT, CoreOS & Server Editions (Self-Contained)

2023-07-26 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 8:40 AM Chris Adams wrote: > > Once upon a time, Vitaly Zaitsev said: > > On 26/07/2023 08:48, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > > >Define small. 😄 > > > > Only Dell, HP and Lenovo laptops are fully supported: > > https://fwupd.org/lvfs/devices/ > > > > fwupd is a gr

Re: Flock CFP: Language SIGs discussion

2023-07-26 Thread Jens-Ulrik Petersen
On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 12:56 AM Ron Olson wrote: > There isn’t a SIG, and I don’t know if there’s any interest really, but > I’d be happy to tell my tales of packaging Swift for Fedora. :\ > Sure, such perspectives are definitely also welcome - this will be a broad discussion. In many cases the

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Enable fwupd-refresh.timer by default on IoT, CoreOS & Server Editions (Self-Contained)

2023-07-26 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Vitaly Zaitsev said: > On 26/07/2023 08:48, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > >Define small. 😄 > > Only Dell, HP and Lenovo laptops are fully supported: > https://fwupd.org/lvfs/devices/ > > fwupd is a great tool on laptops but completely useless on desktops > since no mo

Re: compilation of vdr-epgfixer on rawhide fails

2023-07-26 Thread Martin Gansser
i only changed the position of %make_install in the spec file [1], now it builds [2] again on rawhide. [1] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/vdr-epgfixer/blob/rawhide/f/vdr-epgfixer.spec [2] https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=103947222 Regards Martin _

Re: compilation of vdr-epgfixer on rawhide fails

2023-07-26 Thread Yanko Kaneti
Hello, On Wed, 2023-07-26 at 08:36 +, Martin Gansser wrote: > Hi, > > the compilation of the package vdr-epgfixer fails on rawhide with the message > [1] > ... > install -D libvdr-epgfixer.so > /builddir/build/BUILDROOT/vdr-epgfixer-0.3.1-26.20180416git354f28b.fc39.x86_64/usr/lib64/vdr/libv

Re: Macros in side-tag

2023-07-26 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 26. 07. 23 v 13:13 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek napsal(a): On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 12:30:00PM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: Hi, Koji has grown new functionality to enable setting macros in side-tag: https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11254 I have asked FeSCo to approve to use them: https://pagur

Re: Macros in side-tag

2023-07-26 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 12:30:00PM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Hi, > > Koji has grown new functionality to enable setting macros in side-tag: > > https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11254 > > I have asked FeSCo to approve to use them: > > https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3046 > > My immediate use case

Re: compilation of vdr-epgfixer on rawhide fails

2023-07-26 Thread Martin Gansser
no changes on the spec file. issue only happens on rawhide, see f38 logfile https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=103942043 Regards Martin ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@l

Re: packager-dashboard not updating koschei build status

2023-07-26 Thread Mikel Olasagasti
Thanks František, works fine now! Hau idatzi du Frantisek Zatloukal (fzatl...@redhat.com) erabiltzaileak (2023 uzt. 25(a), ar. (18:59)): > > Hey, > > Thanks for raising the issue. It has been addressed and all the dashboards > should now contain up2date data from koschei. > > Longer answer: The p

Macros in side-tag

2023-07-26 Thread Vít Ondruch
Hi, Koji has grown new functionality to enable setting macros in side-tag: https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11254 I have asked FeSCo to approve to use them: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3046 My immediate use case is to improve the package bootstrapping experience. Vít OpenPGP_signature De

Re: Potential changes to systemd RPM macros

2023-07-26 Thread Andrea Bolognani
On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 07:15:42AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 10:45:30AM -0400, Andrea Bolognani wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 10:51:04AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > > I think it'd be more effiecient to go with the (slightly ugly, no >

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Anaconda WebUI for Fedora Workstation by default (System-Wide)

2023-07-26 Thread Jiri Konecny
Dne 02. 07. 23 v 23:54 Demi Marie Obenour napsal(a): On 6/26/23 12:00, Aoife Moloney wrote: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AnacondaWebUIforFedoraWorkstation This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive

Re: Fedora 39 Mass Rebuild

2023-07-26 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 05:24:20PM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 3:58 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: > > > > As far as I can tell, the toolchain proposal was announced on the devel / > > devel-announce lists on July 7 but never submitted to FESCo for a vote. > > Looks like the pr

Re: compilation of vdr-epgfixer on rawhide fails

2023-07-26 Thread Michael J Gruber
Am Mi., 26. Juli 2023 um 10:36 Uhr schrieb Martin Gansser : > > Hi, > > the compilation of the package vdr-epgfixer fails on rawhide with the message > [1] > ... > install -D libvdr-epgfixer.so > /builddir/build/BUILDROOT/vdr-epgfixer-0.3.1-26.20180416git354f28b.fc39.x86_64/usr/lib64/vdr/libvdr-e

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Enable fwupd-refresh.timer by default on IoT, CoreOS & Server Editions (Self-Contained)

2023-07-26 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 12:14 PM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > On 26/07/2023 11:04, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > > You could, for example, buy a supported Logitech > > Receiver > > I don't recommend anyone to buy this proprietary hardware: > > > The vulnerabilities allow attackers

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Enable fwupd-refresh.timer by default on IoT, CoreOS & Server Editions (Self-Contained)

2023-07-26 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 26/07/2023 11:04, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: You could, for example, buy a supported Logitech Receiver I don't recommend anyone to buy this proprietary hardware: The vulnerabilities allow attackers to sniff on keyboard traffic, but also inject keystrokes (even into dongles not

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Enable fwupd-refresh.timer by default on IoT, CoreOS & Server Editions (Self-Contained)

2023-07-26 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Wednesday, 26 July 2023 at 10:49, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > On 26/07/2023 10:32, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > Those devices which do support fwupd have a large enough market share > > that it is justifiable to enable it, even if there are many machines > > which can't support it. > > M

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Enable fwupd-refresh.timer by default on IoT, CoreOS & Server Editions (Self-Contained)

2023-07-26 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 26/07/2023 10:32, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: Those devices which do support fwupd have a large enough market share that it is justifiable to enable it, even if there are many machines which can't support it. Maybe Anaconda should only enable it if the device is supported? This information ca

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Enable fwupd-refresh.timer by default on IoT, CoreOS & Server Editions (Self-Contained)

2023-07-26 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 10:59 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > Only Dell, HP and Lenovo laptops are fully supported: > https://fwupd.org/lvfs/devices/ Not just laptops, desktops/workstations too. In the last six years, I've had five different models provided by my employers and they were al

Re: DNF5-5.0.1 has a stable API

2023-07-26 Thread Sandro
On 26-07-2023 09:35, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 09:05:08AM +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote: Dne 24. 07. 23 v 22:43 Chuck Anderson napsal(a): I propose "qzw". It's so easy to type on a qwerty keyboard layout. English qwerty layout. Because on Czech layout "z" and "

compilation of vdr-epgfixer on rawhide fails

2023-07-26 Thread Martin Gansser
Hi, the compilation of the package vdr-epgfixer fails on rawhide with the message [1] ... install -D libvdr-epgfixer.so /builddir/build/BUILDROOT/vdr-epgfixer-0.3.1-26.20180416git354f28b.fc39.x86_64/usr/lib64/vdr/libvdr-epgfixer.so.2.6.3 install -D -m644 po/fi_FI.mo /builddir/build/BUILDROOT/vd

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Enable fwupd-refresh.timer by default on IoT, CoreOS & Server Editions (Self-Contained)

2023-07-26 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 09:59:26AM +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > On 26/07/2023 08:48, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > > Define small. 😄 > > Only Dell, HP and Lenovo laptops are fully supported: > https://fwupd.org/lvfs/devices/ > > fwupd is a great tool on laptops but completel

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Enable fwupd-refresh.timer by default on IoT, CoreOS & Server Editions (Self-Contained)

2023-07-26 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 26/07/2023 08:48, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: Define small. 😄 Only Dell, HP and Lenovo laptops are fully supported: https://fwupd.org/lvfs/devices/ fwupd is a great tool on laptops but completely useless on desktops since no motherboard vendors support it. Maybe fwupd should st

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Enable fwupd-refresh.timer by default on IoT, CoreOS & Server Editions (Self-Contained)

2023-07-26 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 09:45:13AM +0200, Ralf Corsépius wrote: > > > Am 26.07.23 um 08:48 schrieb Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski: > > On Wednesday, 26 July 2023 at 06:23, Ralf Corsépius wrote: > > > Am 23.07.23 um 00:39 schrieb Neal Gompa: > > > > Actually, why wouldn't this be used everywhere?

Re: F39 proposal: Perl 5.38 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-07-26 Thread Petr Pisar
V Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 12:34:30PM -, Xiaojie Chen napsal(a): > I am interesting in the upgrading of perl. As a Fedora user, simply upgrade your system to Fedora Rawhide, or to Fedora 39 when it it is released. > Where can I find the detailed process of upgrading and building Perl, > includin

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Enable fwupd-refresh.timer by default on IoT, CoreOS & Server Editions (Self-Contained)

2023-07-26 Thread Ralf Corsépius
Am 26.07.23 um 08:48 schrieb Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski: On Wednesday, 26 July 2023 at 06:23, Ralf Corsépius wrote: Am 23.07.23 um 00:39 schrieb Neal Gompa: Actually, why wouldn't this be used everywhere? Because fwupd only works on a small set of machines? Define small. :) Almost n

Re: DNF5-5.0.1 has a stable API

2023-07-26 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 09:05:08AM +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > Dne 24. 07. 23 v 22:43 Chuck Anderson napsal(a): > > I propose "qzw". It's so easy to type on a qwerty keyboard layout. > > English qwerty layout. Because on Czech layout "z" and "y" are swapped. :) Isn't that called qwertz? Zbys

Re: Potential changes to systemd RPM macros

2023-07-26 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 10:45:30AM -0400, Andrea Bolognani wrote: > On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 10:51:04AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > I don't think Fedora would reject those changes, because in general > > we don't reject things unless they really break stuff for other people. > > Ne

Re: DNF5-5.0.1 has a stable API

2023-07-26 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 24. 07. 23 v 22:43 Chuck Anderson napsal(a): I propose "qzw". It's so easy to type on a qwerty keyboard layout. English qwerty layout. Because on Czech layout "z" and "y" are swapped. :) -- Miroslav Suchy, RHCA Red Hat, Manager, Packit and CPT, #brno, #fedora-buildsys