Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-08 Thread Mattia Verga via devel
Il 08/07/23 13:06, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel ha scritto: > On 06/07/2023 18:10, Aoife Moloney wrote: >> but the conversation about each change >> will take place on Fedora Discussion at >> https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f40-change-request-privacy-preserving-telemetry-for-fedora-workstation-s

Re: more distinct default bash prompt?

2023-07-08 Thread Leon Fauster via devel
Am 08.07.23 um 22:44 schrieb Barry: On 8 Jul 2023, at 19:56, Kushal Das wrote: White background is a good choice for accessibility iirc. Isn’t is contrast that matters not any particular background? On the contrary it helps, a white background helps the human visual system to distinguis

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Color Bash Prompt (System Wide)

2023-07-08 Thread Patrick Creech
Sorry if this comes through twice.  Apparently thunderbird's "Reply to list" thought I meant to send it to devel-announce, not devel. On 7/5/23 05:25, Aoife Moloney wrote: == Feedback == Initial [https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/B5AJS3FIIPMF3

Re: more distinct default bash prompt?

2023-07-08 Thread Barry
> On 8 Jul 2023, at 19:56, Kushal Das wrote: > > White background is a good choice for accessibility iirc. Isn’t is contrast that matters not any particular background? Personal I find white background is not a good accessibility choice for me. Barry __

Re: Announcing spdlog soversion bump

2023-07-08 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 08/07/2023 19:50, Vitaly Zaitsev wrote: I will use my PP rights to rebuild them in a side tag for Rawhide. The side tag has been merged: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-ff83d4f4aa FTBFS: cryfs (Python 3.12 issue: AttributeError: module 'configparser' has no attribute '

Re: more distinct default bash prompt?

2023-07-08 Thread Kushal Das
On 27/05/23, Peter Oliver wrote: > On Fri, 26 May 2023, Marián Konček wrote: > > > AFAIK Gnome Terminal is the only terminal that uses white background by > > default. To my knowledge, all the other terminals use black background. > > Both xterm and rxvt default to a white background. > White ba

Re: more distinct default bash prompt?

2023-07-08 Thread Thomas M Steenholdt via devel
I love the idea of a colorized prompt by default on Fedora! A few points to the posted example: - Let's keep it somewhat identical to the existing one unless a change is really important - Let's leave out the RC code from the prompt - that can be useful in certain scenarios, but is distracting/

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-08 Thread František Šumšal
On 7/8/23 19:48, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: On Saturday, 08 July 2023 at 19:39, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Sat, Jul 08, 2023 at 01:06:01PM +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: On 06/07/2023 18:10, Aoife Moloney wrote: but the conversation about each change will take place on Fedora Di

Announcing spdlog soversion bump

2023-07-08 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
Hello all. spdlog 1.12.0 will include a soversion bump from .1.11 to .1.12. Affected packages (including spdlog-devel and virtual cmake(spdlog) and pkgconfig(spdlog)): - bear - coeurl - cryfs - CuraEngine - freeopcua - gerbera - gnuradio - gqrx - gr-air-modes - gr-funcube - gr-hpsdr - gr-iqba

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-08 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Saturday, 08 July 2023 at 19:39, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Sat, Jul 08, 2023 at 01:06:01PM +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > On 06/07/2023 18:10, Aoife Moloney wrote: > > > but the conversation about each change > > > will take place on Fedora Discussion at > > > https://discussion.fedora

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-08 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, Jul 08, 2023 at 01:06:01PM +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > On 06/07/2023 18:10, Aoife Moloney wrote: > > but the conversation about each change > > will take place on Fedora Discussion at > > https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f40-change-request-privacy-preserving-telemetry-for

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-08 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Friday, 07 July 2023 at 23:45, Björn Persson wrote: > Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > The problem is if users are expected to answer, they are going to > > probably answer No and it's effectively the same as an opt-in. But if > > we have a default value, users will be inclined to leave the defaul

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-08 Thread Demi Marie Obenour
On 7/8/23 06:19, Michal Domonkos wrote: > On Thu, Jul 06, 2023 at 05:10:24PM +0100, Aoife Moloney wrote: >> == Summary == >> >> The Red Hat Display Systems Team (which develops the desktop) proposes >> to enable limited data collection of anonymous Fedora Workstation >> usage metrics. > > One thin

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-08 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, Jul 7 2023 at 09:21:15 PM -0400, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: For metrics to not be personally identifiable, it is necessary that the set of metrics collected have sufficiently low entropy that on average, _many_ users will send _the exact same metrics_. It is very hard for me to see an

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-08 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sat, Jul 8 2023 at 12:08:09 AM +, Randy Barlow via devel wrote: I agree. I think it is important to make it possible for a user to ask for the data collected from their machine to be deleted in the event they mistakenly submitted data, or changed their mind. To be able to delete your d

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20230708.n.0 changes

2023-07-08 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20230707.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20230708.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:2 Dropped images: 3 Added packages: 5 Dropped packages:9 Upgraded packages: 138 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 2.17 MiB Size of dropped packages

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-08 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 06/07/2023 18:10, Aoife Moloney wrote: but the conversation about each change will take place on Fedora Discussion at https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f40-change-request-privacy-preserving-telemetry-for-fedora-workstation-system-wide/85320 It looks like they've started moving replies t

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-08 Thread Michal Domonkos
On Thu, Jul 06, 2023 at 05:10:24PM +0100, Aoife Moloney wrote: > == Summary == > > The Red Hat Display Systems Team (which develops the desktop) proposes > to enable limited data collection of anonymous Fedora Workstation > usage metrics. One thing to realize here is that, no matter what collecti

[Test-Announce] Fedora 39 Rawhide 20230708.n.0 nightly compose nominated for testing

2023-07-08 Thread rawhide
Announcing the creation of a new nightly release validation test event for Fedora 39 Rawhide 20230708.n.0. Please help run some tests for this nightly compose if you have time. For more information on nightly release validation testing, see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-08 Thread Fabio Alessandro Locati
On Sat, Jul 8, 2023, at 03:21, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > If Fedora has 2 million users (possibly an overestimate) then the > metrics would need to have entropy much less than 2^21, which means > that the entire metrics set would need to be able to be represented > as a 20-bit integer. In practic