Re: CentOS Stream, RHEL, and Fedora [was Re: What is Fedora?]

Neal Gompa wrote: > On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 6:09 PM Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: >> >> Josh Boyer wrote: >> > Agree with Matthew fully here. We've been working rather hard >> > internally to adjust the development process for RHEL to be more >> > collaborative and open than it ever has before. >

Re: ppc64le builds taking ages

Circling back here... I reduced the density of builders. There's now 8 builders per host instead of 10. This means that there's now only 32 ppc64le builders instead of 40. However, everything seems a good deal more performant and stable now. So I think the tradeoff is worthwhile. If folks who wer

Re: Broken link

On Sat, Jun 24, 2023 at 10:14:50AM -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 6/24/23 10:06, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > On 6/24/23 02:17, Mikhail Gorsky via devel wrote: > > > https://mirror.linux-ia64.org/ > > > > > > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 12:11:59 PM GMT+5, Samuel Sieb >

Re: Koji builders cannot build Wine Mono

On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 10:22:16PM -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > On 6/20/23 12:21 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > > The builds fail in similar ways but in different places. If anyone has a > > minute could they review the build logs and offer a clue as to what may > > be the cause? > > I ha

Re: CentOS Stream, RHEL, and Fedora [was Re: What is Fedora?]

On 2023-06-24 06:53, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Neal Gompa said: I will also point out that CentOS Stream is perfectly suitable for production use Is it? At one point, there were considerable gaps in security updates; CentOS delayed security updates for 6-8 weeks, twice a year, e

Re: CentOS Stream, RHEL, and Fedora [was Re: What is Fedora?]

I do have packages on a RHEL9 system that do not appear in https://kojihub.stream.centos.org/koji/ - so the fix is unknown from an external view ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fe

Re: CentOS Stream, RHEL, and Fedora [was Re: What is Fedora?]

Once upon a time, Aleksandra Fedorova said: > In this case you don't need a repo, you need just this specific build to > apply it on your environment, isn't it? If I only had one system to worry about, maybe (although maybe not, if the build introduces a new dependency for example). But if I wan

Re: What is Fedora?

Yep! I (We) spend a lot of unpaid time to provide EL bug reports, helping the devs to test their fixes, until it gets into the next EL minor release. Especially when a new major EL release is GA, it has a lot of bugs that I normally do report (doing it since EL5 personally). This is sometimes on

Re: CentOS Stream, RHEL, and Fedora [was Re: What is Fedora?]

> I will also point out that CentOS Stream is perfectly suitable for > production use, and I would argue it provides a differentiated Nope, its not perfect for production use. Just an example of _many_: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2184640 Despite the fact that some critical fixes

Re: CentOS Stream, RHEL, and Fedora [was Re: What is Fedora?]

On Sat, Jun 24, 2023 at 6:36 PM Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Aleksandra Fedorova said: > > When you build a package in CentOS Koji it gets into c9s-gate tag [1]. > > These packages are publicly available and if you'd like to use or test > them > > before their RHEL part passed the inte

Re: What is Fedora?

https://access.redhat.com/security/updates/backporting/ ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-

Re: Broken link

On 6/24/23 10:06, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 6/24/23 02:17, Mikhail Gorsky via devel wrote: https://mirror.linux-ia64.org/ On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 12:11:59 PM GMT+5, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 6/23/23 22:50, Mikhail Gorsky via devel wrote:  > Hello! Please pay

Re: Broken link

On 6/24/23 02:17, Mikhail Gorsky via devel wrote: https://mirror.linux-ia64.org/ On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 12:11:59 PM GMT+5, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 6/23/23 22:50, Mikhail Gorsky via devel wrote: > Hello! Please pay attention that ISO for x86_64 from >

Re: CentOS Stream, RHEL, and Fedora [was Re: What is Fedora?]

Once upon a time, Aleksandra Fedorova said: > When you build a package in CentOS Koji it gets into c9s-gate tag [1]. > These packages are publicly available and if you'd like to use or test them > before their RHEL part passed the internal RHEL QE, you can do that. > > https://kojihub.stream.cent

Re: What is Fedora?

On 6/23/23 15:20, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Fri, Jun 23 2023 at 01:27:24 PM -0400, Josh Boyer > wrote: >> Which means equivalent fixes are in CentOS Stream and anyone wanting >> to recreate exactly what is in RHEL is welcome to backport that code >> from CentOS Stream or upstream. > > Yes, b

Re: CentOS Stream, RHEL, and Fedora [was Re: What is Fedora?]

Hi, On Sat, Jun 24, 2023 at 6:09 PM Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > > On Sat, Jun 24 2023 at 10:24:58 AM -0500, Chris Adams > wrote: > > Is there any chance of having a CentOS Stream repo along the lines of > > Fedora's updates-testing, so that CVEs at least would have some type > > of > > availab

Re: CentOS Stream, RHEL, and Fedora [was Re: What is Fedora?]

On Sat, Jun 24 2023 at 10:24:58 AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: Is there any chance of having a CentOS Stream repo along the lines of Fedora's updates-testing, so that CVEs at least would have some type of available update in a timely manner? With 7 there's the fasttrack repo, but it doesn't

Re: CentOS Stream, RHEL, and Fedora [was Re: What is Fedora?]

On Sat, Jun 24 2023 at 03:26:46 PM +, Gary Buhrmaster wrote: If one does find a security update that did not get streamed, is there a way for a non-customer[0] to open an appropriate ticket both now, and in the future when RH moves their internal bug tracker to jira[1]? Yes, you do not hav

Re: CentOS Stream, RHEL, and Fedora [was Re: What is Fedora?]

On Sat, Jun 24, 2023 at 3:05 PM Michael Catanzaro wrote: > But in practice, we actually currently have a lot of desynced packages > where RHEL is ahead of CentOS Stream for various reasons. I believe > most such cases are mistakes that need to be corrected, not intentional > delays. E.g. if a par

Re: CentOS Stream, RHEL, and Fedora [was Re: What is Fedora?]

Once upon a time, Michael Catanzaro said: > So here is the reality with security updates. The vast majority of > security updates are shipped in RHEL 3-9 months after we fix them, > because minimizing the quantity of updates is an important goal in > RHEL to reduce update churn for customers, so w

Re: CentOS Stream, RHEL, and Fedora [was Re: What is Fedora?]

On Sat, Jun 24 2023 at 08:53:32 AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: Is it? At one point, there were considerable gaps in security updates; RHEL 9.x would get an update while CentOS Stream 9 (as the target for RHEL 9.[x+1]) didn't get a corresponding update for quite a while. If Stream doesn't get

Re: CentOS Stream, RHEL, and Fedora [was Re: What is Fedora?]

Once upon a time, Neal Gompa said: > I will also point out that CentOS Stream is perfectly suitable for > production use Is it? At one point, there were considerable gaps in security updates; RHEL 9.x would get an update while CentOS Stream 9 (as the target for RHEL 9.[x+1]) didn't get a corresp

Re: CentOS Stream, RHEL, and Fedora [was Re: What is Fedora?]

On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 6:09 PM Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Josh Boyer wrote: > > Agree with Matthew fully here. We've been working rather hard > > internally to adjust the development process for RHEL to be more > > collaborative and open than it ever has before. > > The *development proce

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20230624.n.0 changes

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Re: Broken link

https://mirror.linux-ia64.org/ On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 12:11:59 PM GMT+5, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 6/23/23 22:50, Mikhail Gorsky via devel wrote: > Hello! Please pay attention that ISO for x86_64 from > https://fedoraproject.org/workstation/download/ >

Re: Towards enabling rpm sysusers integration

On Sat, Jun 24, 2023 at 01:22:22AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > I don't think so. Either way, the actual implementation is going to be a call > to > systemd-sysusers. But the rpm-internal approach is quite different in how the > call is constructed from the macro-based approach, so

[Test-Announce] Fedora 39 Rawhide 20230624.n.0 nightly compose nominated for testing

Announcing the creation of a new nightly release validation test event for Fedora 39 Rawhide 20230624.n.0. Please help run some tests for this nightly compose if you have time. For more information on nightly release validation testing, see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki

Re: Broken link

On 6/23/23 22:50, Mikhail Gorsky via devel wrote: Hello! Please pay attention that ISO for x86_64 from https://fedoraproject.org/workstation/download/  is not available. It works fine for me. Maybe you got a bad mirror. If it happens again, s