Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2023-06-15 16:00 UTC)

 Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2023-06-15 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.libera.chat.  Local time information (via. uitime): = Day: Thursday == 2023-06-15 09:00 PDT US/Pacific 2023-06-15 12

Re: SecureBoot certificates

On Wed, Jun 14, 2023, at 7:20 PM, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Chris Murphy wrote: >> OK I tried this again and discover shim is signed twice. >> >> Issuer: C=US, ST=Washington, L=Redmond, O=Microsoft Corporation, >> CN=Microsoft Corporation UEFI CA 2011 >> Not Bef

Re: Modules without modularity

Petr Pisar wrote: > I spent some time thinking how to approximate the nice features with > current state of RPM, Koji, and DNF and come up with this approach > . The linked approach > achieves it at the expense of dedicated build targets and an inabilit

Re: SecureBoot certificates

Chris Murphy wrote: > OK I tried this again and discover shim is signed twice. > > Issuer: C=US, ST=Washington, L=Redmond, O=Microsoft Corporation, > CN=Microsoft Corporation UEFI CA 2011 > Not Before: Sep 9 19:40:20 2021 GMT > Not After : Sep 1 19:40:20 2

Re: SecureBoot certificates

On 6/14/23 09:29, stan via devel wrote: On Tue, 13 Jun 2023 11:05:53 -0400 "Chris Murphy" wrote: OK I tried this again and discover shim is signed twice. It has been awhile since I built a local kernel that I signed, but even a locally built kernel was signed twice when using rpmbuild. I as

Fedora CoreOS Meeting Minutes 2023-06-14

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2023-06-14/fedora_coreos_meeting.2023-06-14-16.30.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2023-06-14/fedora_coreos_meeting.2023-06-14-16.30.txt Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2023

Re: Modules without modularity

Le 14/06/2023 à 14:14, Petr Pisar a écrit : V Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 10:19:27AM +0200, Remi Collet napsal(a): Your approach will move complexity back to packagers. Yes. That's because the problem has a complexity and the complexity needs to live somewhere. With modularity it was in MBS and in mo

Re: Modules without modularity

V Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 10:29:31AM +0200, Dan Čermák napsal(a): > Petr Pisar writes: > > The only drawback is one have to decide before GA which software will > > have an alternative content and create meta-packages for the default > > streams. Otherwise, users installing from GA media and upgradin

Re: Fedora Copr builders updated to Fedora 38

On středa 14. června 2023 12:37:24 CEST Pavel Raiskup wrote: > On čtvrtek 8. června 2023 17:42:13 CEST Pavel Raiskup wrote: > > Hello maintainers! > > > > Copr builders have been updated to Fedora 38 today (some old builders > > might still be running F37 ATM, but when they finish the task(s) they

Re: packager dashboard - orphan data refresh

On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 3:33 PM Mikel Olasagasti wrote: > > Hi all, > > Currently the packager dashboard for go-sig group[1] shows 1995/2371 > packages impacted by orphans after the non-responsive process > concluded for eclipseo. > > Some (many?) of the packages have been adopted already, but the

Re: Modules without modularity

In general, I like the proposal, while it probably has some gaps, e.g. how the code will be organized in dist git. And another specific concern is: "I recommend abusing a distribution release package (e.g. fedora-release) which is in a default installation:". I think it would probably make sen

packager dashboard - orphan data refresh

Hi all, Currently the packager dashboard for go-sig group[1] shows 1995/2371 packages impacted by orphans after the non-responsive process concluded for eclipseo. Some (many?) of the packages have been adopted already, but the orphan related information has not been updated, iiuc, in the last +48

Re: SecureBoot certificates

On Tue, 13 Jun 2023 11:05:53 -0400 "Chris Murphy" wrote: > OK I tried this again and discover shim is signed twice. It has been awhile since I built a local kernel that I signed, but even a locally built kernel was signed twice when using rpmbuild. I assume that somewhere in the build plumbing

Re: Making systemd-boot option available for installation?

On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 07:55:09AM -0500, Jeremy Linton wrote: > Hi, > > On 6/5/23 03:24, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 02, 2023 at 05:25:22PM -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > > > Hello team, > > > > > > I would like to bring back the topic related to the selection of > > >

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Automatic Cloud Reboot on Updates (Self-Contained Change)

On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 07:57:12PM +0100, Aoife Moloney wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Automatic_Cloud_Reboot_On_Updates > == Summary == > Cloud users can provide cloud-init metadata when creating a Fedora > cloud instance and that metadata can contain instructions to update > all

Re: Modules without modularity

V Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 10:19:27AM +0200, Remi Collet napsal(a): > Your approach will move complexity back to packagers. > Yes. That's because the problem has a complexity and the complexity needs to live somewhere. With modularity it was in MBS and in modular filtering part of DNF. If you remove m

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20230614.n.0 changes

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Re: Modules without modularity

V Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 03:20:06PM -0400, Christopher napsal(a): > (First the negative... don't worry, it's not all negative) > I wonder why we need this at all. I believe that modularity has failed > to gain a foothold in Fedora, just like scl before it, because Fedora > just doesn't need this. One

Re: Fedora Copr builders updated to Fedora 38

On čtvrtek 8. června 2023 17:42:13 CEST Pavel Raiskup wrote: > Hello maintainers! > > Copr builders have been updated to Fedora 38 today (some old builders > might still be running F37 ATM, but when they finish the task(s) they > work on, they will be deleted). Our testsuite is passing just fine,

Re: Fedora Copr builders updated to Fedora 38

Hi Pavel, On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 11:27:35 +0200, Pavel Raiskup wrote: > On úterý 13. června 2023 16:57:42 CEST Neal H. Walfield wrote: > > On Thu, 08 Jun 2023 21:37:09 +0200, > > Ondřej Budai wrote: > > > RPM Sequoia's crypto policies can be configured, so you should be able to > > > re-enable SHA-1

Re: Fedora Copr builders updated to Fedora 38

On úterý 13. června 2023 16:57:42 CEST Neal H. Walfield wrote: > On Thu, 08 Jun 2023 21:37:09 +0200, > Ondřej Budai wrote: > > RPM Sequoia's crypto policies can be configured, so you should be able to > > re-enable SHA-1. However, this would > > be a global change, not only for EL6... See > > http

Re: ACPI-related bug in 6.3.X? At least an issue in ucsi_acpi, affecting several systems

Hi Christopher, On 6/13/23 23:26, Christopher Klooz via devel wrote: > In case you are already aware of the issue, feel free to ignore this mail. I > just want to make aware that there could be multiple interrelated (bug) > reports that might be considered in conjunction and not on their own, gi

Re: Fedora Copr builders updated to Fedora 38

On sobota 10. června 2023 22:36:08 CEST Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Pavel Raiskup wrote: > > I'm not strongly against anything; but rather than weaker policy for > > everything I slightly prefer keeping the _stricter default policy_ with > > _disabled gpgcheck for EL6_ (we should phase epel-6 o

Re: Modules without modularity

Hi Petře, Petr Pisar writes: > Hello, > > as it seems that module build infrastructure isn't getting any better, as > modular YUM repositories are going to be deconfigured > , > there is a time to look at different ways how

Re: Modules without modularity

Hi, Le 13/06/2023 à 18:32, Petr Pisar a écrit : I spent some time thinking how to approximate the nice features with current state of RPM, Koji, and DNF and come up with this approach . First thanks for your work on this I also thinking a lot ab

Re: Fedora Copr builders updated to Fedora 38

On 6/14/23 11:02, Pavel Raiskup wrote: On úterý 13. června 2023 16:57:42 CEST Neal H. Walfield wrote: On Thu, 08 Jun 2023 21:37:09 +0200, Ondřej Budai wrote: RPM Sequoia's crypto policies can be configured, so you should be able to re-enable SHA-1. However, this would be a global change, not o

Re: Fedora Copr builders updated to Fedora 38

On úterý 13. června 2023 16:57:42 CEST Neal H. Walfield wrote: > On Thu, 08 Jun 2023 21:37:09 +0200, > Ondřej Budai wrote: > > RPM Sequoia's crypto policies can be configured, so you should be able to > > re-enable SHA-1. However, this would > > be a global change, not only for EL6... See > > http

Re: Modules without modularity

V Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 01:06:33PM -0700, Brad Smith napsal(a): > Is this thread on alternatives to alternatives also relevant: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/4AUQVBKLQBU6LIWZGVXN2CM3XTYQAKXZ/#4AUQVBKLQBU6LIWZGVXN2CM3XTYQAKXZ > ? > It's relevant