Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build JDKs once, repack everywhere (System-Wide Change)

2023-05-30 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 31. 05. 23 1:31, Kevin Fenzi wrote: So, the only way I can see to do this would be to have releng manually tag the builds from oldest release into newer ones each time they are built. I do not like this for a number of reasons: * It's more manual work. * It bypasses a bunch of our process. Th

Re: SecureBoot certificates

2023-05-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2023-05-30 at 22:00 -0400, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Fri, May 26, 2023, at 10:20 AM, Steve Grubb wrote: > > > sbattach --detach signature /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI > > openssl pkcs7 -inform DER -in signature -text -print_certs > shim-certs.txt > > > > Issuer: C=US, ST=Wash

Re: Old stalled bodhi updates

2023-05-30 Thread Elliott Sales de Andrade
On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 4:16 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2023-05-30 at 21:52 +0200, Mikel Olasagasti wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > There are currently 157 updates in testing or pending status in Bodhi > > that were created before 2023: > > > > > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/?searc

Re: SecureBoot certificates

2023-05-30 Thread Chris Murphy
On Fri, May 26, 2023, at 10:20 AM, Steve Grubb wrote: > sbattach --detach signature /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI > openssl pkcs7 -inform DER -in signature -text -print_certs > shim-certs.txt > > Issuer: C=US, ST=Washington, L=Redmond, O=Microsoft Corporation, > CN=Microsoft Corporati

Re: Old stalled bodhi updates

2023-05-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2023-05-30 at 16:45 -0700, Brian C. Lane wrote: > On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 01:15:08PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2022-bf8feea173 > > Thanks for the heads up, I don't see anything in the UI allowing me to > rerun the test (or waive it,

Re: Old stalled bodhi updates

2023-05-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2023-05-30 at 16:45 -0700, Brian C. Lane wrote: > On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 01:15:08PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2022-bf8feea173 > > Thanks for the heads up, I don't see anything in the UI allowing me to > rerun the test (or waive it,

Re: Old stalled bodhi updates

2023-05-30 Thread Brian C. Lane
On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 01:15:08PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2022-bf8feea173 Thanks for the heads up, I don't see anything in the UI allowing me to rerun the test (or waive it, but I'd rather see the logs from the failure first). Not sure what

Re: Old stalled bodhi updates

2023-05-30 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 09:52:11PM +0200, Mikel Olasagasti wrote: > Hi all, > > There are currently 157 updates in testing or pending status in Bodhi > that were created before 2023: > > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/?search=&submitted_before=2023&status=pending&status=testing&page=1 >

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build JDKs once, repack everywhere (System-Wide Change)

2023-05-30 Thread Kevin Fenzi
So, the only way I can see to do this would be to have releng manually tag the builds from oldest release into newer ones each time they are built. I do not like this for a number of reasons: * It's more manual work. * It bypasses a bunch of our process. There wouldn't be any bodhi update, so no

Re: employment related packager groups

2023-05-30 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 01:50:04PM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > I'm not necessarily opposed to this, but I'm not sure I'm in favor of > it. It certainly beats a company using a shared account against policy > to allow for multiple maintainers. On the other hand, what are the > practical use cases her

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Fwd: SPDX Statistics - Rust edition

2023-05-30 Thread Jilayne Lovejoy
In support of package maintainers still needing to update their license info for their packages - how can we help keep the momentum going? We have our next "office hours" on Tuesday, 27th of June at 10am US eastern time - that is for anyone to get help, ask questions, etc. We just had a hackf

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Aspell Depreciation (Self-Contained Change)

2023-05-30 Thread DJ Chase
On Tue May 30, 2023 at 3:04 PM EDT, Aoife Moloney wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AspellDeprecation > > This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes > process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive > community feedback. This proposal will only be

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Aspell Depreciation (Self-Contained Change)

2023-05-30 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 30. 05. 23 21:04, Aoife Moloney wrote: Upstream of the aspell package has been inactive for almost 4 years now. Most of the packages that have been using aspell in the past did migrate to the supported [https://github.com/hunspell/hunspell hunspell package] or any other spell checker. A slig

Re: Old stalled bodhi updates

2023-05-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2023-05-30 at 21:52 +0200, Mikel Olasagasti wrote: > Hi all, > > There are currently 157 updates in testing or pending status in Bodhi > that were created before 2023: > > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/?search=&submitted_before=2023&status=pending&status=testing&page=1 > > Ther

Old stalled bodhi updates

2023-05-30 Thread Mikel Olasagasti
Hi all, There are currently 157 updates in testing or pending status in Bodhi that were created before 2023: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/?search=&submitted_before=2023&status=pending&status=testing&page=1 There are 7 Fedora updates, 6 for Fedora-37 and one in pending->testing status

F39 Change Proposal: Aspell Depreciation (Self-Contained Change)

2023-05-30 Thread Aoife Moloney
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AspellDeprecation This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented if approved by the Fedora Engineering Steering Commit

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build JDKs once, repack everywhere (System-Wide Change)

2023-05-30 Thread Aoife Moloney
Wiki Link: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BuildJdkOncePackEverywhere On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 7:37 PM Aoife Moloney wrote: > This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes > process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive > community feedback. This propos

F39 Change Proposal: Automatic Cloud Reboot on Updates (Self-Contained Change)

2023-05-30 Thread Aoife Moloney
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Automatic_Cloud_Reboot_On_Updates This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented if approved by the Fedora Engineering

Re: Plans for dhclient / ISC dhcp?

2023-05-30 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Florian Weimer said: > * Chris Adams: > > > Once upon a time, Richard W.M. Jones said: > >> It seems as if the ISC dhcp package has been EOL'd upstream: > >> > >> https://www.isc.org/dhcp/ > > > > I'm a little surprised that nobody has forked this to continue > > maintaining i

F39 Change Proposal: Build JDKs once, repack everywhere (System-Wide Change)

2023-05-30 Thread Aoife Moloney
This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented if approved by the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee. == Summary == This is the last step in https://fedo

Heads-up: flatbuffers 23.5.26 coming to Rawhide

2023-05-30 Thread Ben Beasley
In one week (2023-06-06), or slightly later, I plan to build flatbuffers 23.5.26 in Rawhide[1]. Because flatbuffers offers no ABI stability, it will be necessary to rebuild the sole dependent package, hyperhdr. Since I don’t currently have access to that project, there are three possibilities:

Re: Plans for dhclient / ISC dhcp?

2023-05-30 Thread Pavel Zhukov
This activity has been started ~3 years ago: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/dhclient_deprecation#Dependencies and some dependencies have been cleaned up (dracut iirc) since then. -- Pavel On Tue, May 30, 2023, at 18:14, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 10:11:21AM -

Re: Plans for dhclient / ISC dhcp?

2023-05-30 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 10:11:21AM -0400, David Cantrell wrote: > On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 11:09:39AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > https://github.com/libguestfs/libguestfs/issues/121 > > > > We use dhclient to get a DHCP address inside a minimal appliance. > > To get this out of the way: Ne

Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2023-05-30)

2023-05-30 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Tuesday at 17:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.libera.chat. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '202

Re: F39 Proposal: Make Toolbx a release-blocking deliverable and have release-blocking test criteria (System-Wide Change)

2023-05-30 Thread Owen Taylor
On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 9:47 AM Debarshi Ray wrote: > Hey Owen, > > On Mon, 2023-05-29 at 12:39 -0400, Owen Taylor wrote: > > On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 8:16 AM Debarshi Ray via devel > > wrote: > > > > > > My main concern, which I had brought up in the Release Engineering > > > tickets before [1,2

Re: Plans for dhclient / ISC dhcp?

2023-05-30 Thread David Cantrell
On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 11:09:39AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > https://github.com/libguestfs/libguestfs/issues/121 > > We use dhclient to get a DHCP address inside a minimal appliance. > To get this out of the way: NetworkManager or systemd are not options. > > It seems as if the ISC dhcp

[Test-Announce] Fedora-IoT 39 RC 20230530.0 nightly compose nominated for testing

2023-05-30 Thread rawhide
Announcing the creation of a new nightly release validation test event for Fedora-IoT 39 RC 20230530.0. Please help run some tests for this nightly compose if you have time. For more information on nightly release validation testing, see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_pl

Re: F39 Proposal: Make Toolbx a release-blocking deliverable and have release-blocking test criteria (System-Wide Change)

2023-05-30 Thread Debarshi Ray via devel
Hey Owen, On Mon, 2023-05-29 at 12:39 -0400, Owen Taylor wrote: > On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 8:16 AM Debarshi Ray via devel > wrote: > > > > My main concern, which I had brought up in the Release Engineering > > tickets before [1,2] is whether the fedora-toolbox images would > > continue to be defi

Re: Plans for dhclient / ISC dhcp?

2023-05-30 Thread Florian Weimer
* Chris Adams: > Once upon a time, Richard W.M. Jones said: >> It seems as if the ISC dhcp package has been EOL'd upstream: >> >> https://www.isc.org/dhcp/ > > I'm a little surprised that nobody has forked this to continue > maintaining it. dhcpd is widely used, and kea is far from a drop-in >

Re: Plans for dhclient / ISC dhcp?

2023-05-30 Thread Stephen Smoogen
On Tue, 30 May 2023 at 08:46, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Richard W.M. Jones said: > > It seems as if the ISC dhcp package has been EOL'd upstream: > > > > https://www.isc.org/dhcp/ > > I'm a little surprised that nobody has forked this to continue > maintaining it. dhcpd is widely u

Re: Plans for dhclient / ISC dhcp?

2023-05-30 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Richard W.M. Jones said: > It seems as if the ISC dhcp package has been EOL'd upstream: > > https://www.isc.org/dhcp/ I'm a little surprised that nobody has forked this to continue maintaining it. dhcpd is widely used, and kea is far from a drop-in replacement. -- Chris Adam

Re: Are we ready for ipv6-mostly networks?

2023-05-30 Thread Petr Pisar
V Thu, May 25, 2023 at 10:51:26PM +0200, Petr Menšík napsal(a): > I have attended recently csnog.eu conference [1], where some interesting > presentations took place. They were usually in Czech, so it is not something > I am going to share more. But what took my interest were ipv6 readiness with >

Re: Plans for dhclient / ISC dhcp?

2023-05-30 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 11:08 AM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > We really need just a dhcp client, no baggage. Busybox distributes Udhcpc, a small dhcp client intended for embedded systems, and perhaps might be a longer term viable solution for minimal appliances. And while I never looked at them,

Re: Plans for dhclient / ISC dhcp?

2023-05-30 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 11:05:39AM +, Gary Buhrmaster wrote: > On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 10:57 AM Florian Weimer wrote: > > > systemd-networkd has an integrated DHCP client, hasn't it? > > Yes (and I have migrated a number of my systems to > using systemd-networkd), but Richard said systemd >

Re: Plans for dhclient / ISC dhcp?

2023-05-30 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 10:57 AM Florian Weimer wrote: > systemd-networkd has an integrated DHCP client, hasn't it? Yes (and I have migrated a number of my systems to using systemd-networkd), but Richard said systemd is not an option. ___ devel mailing

Re: Plans for dhclient / ISC dhcp?

2023-05-30 Thread Tom Hughes via devel
On 30/05/2023 11:57, Florian Weimer wrote: * Richard W. M. Jones: I wonder what our plans are for this package, such as whether we are recommending moving to dhcpcd: https://roy.marples.name/projects/dhcpcd systemd-networkd has an integrated DHCP client, hasn't it? It does yes, and it's wh

Re: Plans for dhclient / ISC dhcp?

2023-05-30 Thread Florian Weimer
* Richard W. M. Jones: > I wonder what our plans are for this package, such as whether we are > recommending moving to dhcpcd: > > https://roy.marples.name/projects/dhcpcd systemd-networkd has an integrated DHCP client, hasn't it? Thanks, Florian ___ d

Re: Plans for dhclient / ISC dhcp?

2023-05-30 Thread Tom Hughes via devel
On 30/05/2023 11:41, Peter Robinson wrote: On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 11:10 AM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: https://github.com/libguestfs/libguestfs/issues/121 We use dhclient to get a DHCP address inside a minimal appliance. To get this out of the way: NetworkManager or systemd are not options. I

Re: Plans for dhclient / ISC dhcp?

2023-05-30 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 11:10 AM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > https://github.com/libguestfs/libguestfs/issues/121 > > We use dhclient to get a DHCP address inside a minimal appliance. > To get this out of the way: NetworkManager or systemd are not options. > > It seems as if the ISC dhcp package

Plans for dhclient / ISC dhcp?

2023-05-30 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
https://github.com/libguestfs/libguestfs/issues/121 We use dhclient to get a DHCP address inside a minimal appliance. To get this out of the way: NetworkManager or systemd are not options. It seems as if the ISC dhcp package has been EOL'd upstream: https://www.isc.org/dhcp/ I wonder what our p

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20230530.n.0 changes

2023-05-30 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20230529.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20230530.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 4 Added packages: 15 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 109 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 6.75 MiB Size of dropped packages:0

Orphaning Laminas framework

2023-05-30 Thread Remi Collet
Hi, I have orphaned the Laminas packages and few others This will break some doctrine and symfony packages Remi P.S. List (probably more later) php-doctrine-migrations php-friendsofphp-proxy-manager-lts php-laminas-authentication php-laminas-barcode php-laminas-cache php-laminas-captcha php

Re: Are we ready for ipv6-mostly networks?

2023-05-30 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi, > I have attended recently csnog.eu conference [1], where some interesting > presentations took place. They were usually in Czech, so it is not > something I am going to share more. But what took my interest were ipv6 > readiness with some exceptions. Fedora is ready to be run on dual-stack >