Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1

2022-09-28 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 4:43 AM Gary Buhrmaster wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 8:06 PM David Airlie wrote: > > > Think of it like a jigsaw puzzle, where the person who places the last > > piece in the puzzle pays the license. But then stop thinking of it > > like that and just assume it's a l

Re: python-pandas has been orphaned - needs a new primary maintainer.

2022-09-28 Thread Jonathan Wright via devel
I threw my name on it. Will go through its current state in the next few days. On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 8:45 PM Orion Poplawski wrote: > Looks like python-pandas has been orphaned. Is anyone interested in > taking it on? I've done some drive by work (and have maintained it in > EPEL), but I al

Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1

2022-09-28 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 8:06 PM David Airlie wrote: > Think of it like a jigsaw puzzle, where the person who places the last > piece in the puzzle pays the license. But then stop thinking of it > like that and just assume it's a lot vaguer and way more legally > involved than that. So, for CPU's

Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1

2022-09-28 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 9/28/22 6:45 PM, David Airlie wrote: Please take a look at the rawhide changes I just pushed. This should split things out sufficiently. Thanks, Dave. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le.

python-pandas has been orphaned - needs a new primary maintainer.

2022-09-28 Thread Orion Poplawski
Looks like python-pandas has been orphaned. Is anyone interested in taking it on? I've done some drive by work (and have maintained it in EPEL), but I already have too many packages. Thanks, Orion -- Orion Poplawski he/him/his - surely the least important thing about me IT Systems Manager

Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1

2022-09-28 Thread David Airlie
Nope the _video.so files are the vaapi ones. Replacing that package with rpmfusion built should work fine. On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 10:26 AM Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 1:46 AM David Airlie wrote: > > > > On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 4:30 PM Nicolas Chauvet wrote: > > > > > > Le ma

Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1

2022-09-28 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 1:46 AM David Airlie wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 4:30 PM Nicolas Chauvet wrote: > > > > Le mar. 27 sept. 2022 à 20:57, David Airlie a écrit : > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 4:02 AM Frantisek Zatloukal > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > since th

Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1

2022-09-28 Thread David Airlie
On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 4:30 PM Nicolas Chauvet wrote: > > Le mar. 27 sept. 2022 à 20:57, David Airlie a écrit : > > > > On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 4:02 AM Frantisek Zatloukal > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > since this mesa change ( > > > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/mesa/c/94ef544b3

Re: Explicit dependency on systemd-rpm-macros now required?

2022-09-28 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Fri, 2022-09-23 at 22:49 +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: > On Fri, 2022-09-23 at 22:39 +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > On Mon, 2022-09-19 at 09:08 +0200, Dan Horák wrote: > > > On Fri, 16 Sep 2022 13:42:42 + > > > Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 03:35:29P

Fedora 37 compose report: 20220928.n.1 changes

2022-09-28 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-37-20220927.n.0 NEW: Fedora-37-20220928.n.1 = SUMMARY = Added images:1 Dropped images: 7 Added packages: 0 Dropped packages:14 Upgraded packages: 5 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 0 B Size of dropped packages:425.35 MiB Size of

Re: Self Introduction: Sébastien Le Roux

2022-09-28 Thread Renich Bon Ćirić
On Wed, 2022-09-28 at 20:01 +0200, Sébastien Le Roux wrote: > Hello, > and thank you all for the welcome ;-) > > Not sure what you did to build it, did you download the sources from the > website ? From github; as you menton next. > If you download the sources here: https://github.com/Slookeur

Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1

2022-09-28 Thread Simon Farnsworth via devel
> On 28 Sep 2022, at 19:40, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 7:48 PM Simon Farnsworth via devel > mailto:devel@lists.fedoraproject.org>> wrote: >> >>> On 28 Sep 2022, at 14:27, Neal Gompa wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 3:22 PM Ian Pilcher wrote: On 9/28/22 03:5

Re: Self Introduction: Sébastien Le Roux

2022-09-28 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 8:35 PM Sébastien Le Roux wrote: > > Le 28/09/2022 à 20:13, Alexander Ploumistos a écrit : > > > Yes I did look into this documents today, followed the procedure, and > submitted the bugzilla: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2130607 I'm preparing for an int

Re: How do I "unstick" koji?

2022-09-28 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 10:10:34AM -0400, Steven A. Falco wrote: > On 9/28/22 09:59 AM, Stephen Smoogen wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, 28 Sept 2022 at 09:53, Steven A. Falco > > wrote: > > > > Yesterday, I had a build that failed.  The task ID is 92381483. > > > >

Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1

2022-09-28 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 7:48 PM Simon Farnsworth via devel wrote: > > > On 28 Sep 2022, at 14:27, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 3:22 PM Ian Pilcher wrote: > >> > >> On 9/28/22 03:50, Tommy Nguyen wrote: > >>> This change will only affect AMD, as the intel non-free drivers do

Re: Self Introduction: Sébastien Le Roux

2022-09-28 Thread Sébastien Le Roux
Le 28/09/2022 à 20:13, Alexander Ploumistos a écrit : Hello Sébastien, Bienvenue ! Have you taken a look at these documents? They should help you get started. https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/package-maintainers/Joining_the_Package_Maintainers/ https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/package-ma

Re: status update on "ostree native containers"

2022-09-28 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, Sep 27, 2022, at 6:08 PM, Colin Walters wrote: > We shipped https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/OstreeNativeContainer > in Fedora 36 and a lot has happened since then. Also, I should mention that we're planning to use this in OpenShift, see https://github.com/openshift/enhancements/b

Re: Self Introduction: Sébastien Le Roux

2022-09-28 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
Hello Sébastien, Bienvenue ! Have you taken a look at these documents? They should help you get started. https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/package-maintainers/Joining_the_Package_Maintainers/ https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/package-maintainers/New_Package_Process_for_New_Contributors/ Eve

Re: Self Introduction: Sébastien Le Roux

2022-09-28 Thread Sébastien Le Roux
Le 28/09/2022 à 19:32, Renich Bon Ćirić a écrit : On Wed, 2022-09-28 at 17:29 +0200, Sébastien Le Roux wrote: Dear all, my name is Sébastien Le Roux, I just join the mailing list today. I am a computational material scientist, Hello! 0/ Welcome to Fedora's Devel ;D I am the author of several

Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1

2022-09-28 Thread Simon Farnsworth via devel
> On 28 Sep 2022, at 14:27, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 3:22 PM Ian Pilcher wrote: >> >> On 9/28/22 03:50, Tommy Nguyen wrote: >>> This change will only affect AMD, as the intel non-free drivers do not >>> depend on the changes. It is also unclear how this would affect nvidia.

Fedora CoreOS Meeting Minutes 2022-09-28

2022-09-28 Thread Dusty Mabe
#fedora-meeting-1: fedora_coreos_meeting Meeting started by dustymabe at 16:30:46 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2022-09-28/fedora_coreos_meeting.2022-09-28-16

Re: Self Introduction: Sébastien Le Roux

2022-09-28 Thread Renich Bon Ćirić
On Wed, 2022-09-28 at 17:29 +0200, Sébastien Le Roux wrote: > Dear all, > my name is Sébastien Le Roux, I just join the mailing list today. > I am a computational material scientist, Hello! 0/ Welcome to Fedora's Devel ;D > I am the author of several open source programs, so far none being packa

Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1

2022-09-28 Thread Julian Sikorski
Am 28.09.22 um 15:27 schrieb Neal Gompa: On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 3:22 PM Ian Pilcher wrote: On 9/28/22 03:50, Tommy Nguyen wrote: This change will only affect AMD, as the intel non-free drivers do not depend on the changes. It is also unclear how this would affect nvidia. There is barely any

Re: Self Introduction: Sébastien Le Roux

2022-09-28 Thread Erol Keskin
Welcome Sébastien :) On Wed, 28 Sept 2022 at 18:30, Sébastien Le Roux < sebastien.ler...@ipcms.unistra.fr> wrote: > Dear all, > my name is Sébastien Le Roux, I just join the mailing list today. > I am a computational material scientist, > my work can be separated in two parts: studying the physic

Self Introduction: Sébastien Le Roux

2022-09-28 Thread Sébastien Le Roux
Dear all, my name is Sébastien Le Roux, I just join the mailing list today. I am a computational material scientist, my work can be separated in two parts: studying the physico-chemical properties of materials using computational/theoretical methods, and developing tools to help scientists in t

Re: OpenSSL and ECC patents (was Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1)

2022-09-28 Thread Demi Marie Obenour
On 9/28/22 08:21, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 1:15 PM Michael J Gruber > wrote: >> >> As Fedora users and contributors, we profit a lot from everything that >> RedHat provides to the Fedora project, be it infra, people-power or >> "leverage" (talking to vendors etc.). In turn, R

Re: F39 proposal: Replace DNF with DNF5 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-09-28 Thread Brian C. Lane
On Sat, Sep 24, 2022 at 08:01:45PM -0500, Maxwell G via devel wrote: > On Tue Sep 6, 2022, Ben Cotton wrote: > > == Upgrade/compatibility impact == > > The new DNF5 will obsolete `dnf`, `yum`, `dnf-automatic`, `yum-utils`, > > and DNF plugins (core and extras). python3-dnf and LIBDNF (`libdnf`, > >

Re: OpenSSL and ECC patents (was Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1)

2022-09-28 Thread Blaise Pabon
Hey, on a related note... I'm applying for a position as a Open source license compliance analyst (amazing!) and I would be eager to learn more about how we do things in Fedora. If I get the gig, I will even be able to contribute some time to the effort. -Blaise On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 8:49 AM Ne

Re: FYI: livesys and livesys-late init.d files left over after Fedora installation

2022-09-28 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Sep 19, 2022 at 7:34 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Mon, 2022-09-19 at 12:53 -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 19, 2022 at 12:50 PM Brian C. Lane wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 19, 2022 at 11:08:35AM +0200, Kamil Paral wrote: > > > > On Mon, Sep 19, 2022 at 10:46 AM Marius Schwar

Re: Carla-2.5.0 compilation fails with: error: static assertion failed: 64-bit large file support is not enabled

2022-09-28 Thread Jerry James
On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 8:09 AM Martin Gansser wrote: > I've just read that there have been problems with Koji for the last 24 hours, > so I'll wait until tomorrow and maybe the problems will be solved again. Those problems appear to have been resolved. I'm getting good builds now. -- Jerry Ja

Re: Carla-2.5.0 compilation fails with: error: static assertion failed: 64-bit large file support is not enabled

2022-09-28 Thread Jerry James
On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 7:57 AM Martin Gansser wrote: > when i compiling Carla-2.5.0 [1] the compilation fails on i686, ppc64le and > s390x platform, it fails with the follwoing error message [2]. > > g++ CarlaEngineDummy.cpp -Wall -Wextra -pipe -DBUILDING_CARLA -DREAL_BUILD > -MD -MP -fno-commo

Re: How do I "unstick" koji?

2022-09-28 Thread Steven A. Falco
On 9/28/22 09:59 AM, Stephen Smoogen wrote: On Wed, 28 Sept 2022 at 09:53, Steven A. Falco mailto:stevenfa...@gmail.com>> wrote: Yesterday, I had a build that failed.  The task ID is 92381483. I tried rebuilding it today in task 92397327 but I get the error message: "GenericError

Re: Carla-2.5.0 compilation fails with: error: static assertion failed: 64-bit large file support is not enabled

2022-09-28 Thread Martin Gansser
I've just read that there have been problems with Koji for the last 24 hours, so I'll wait until tomorrow and maybe the problems will be solved again. Regards Martin ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: How do I "unstick" koji?

2022-09-28 Thread Stephen Smoogen
On Wed, 28 Sept 2022 at 09:53, Steven A. Falco wrote: > Yesterday, I had a build that failed. The task ID is 92381483. > > I tried rebuilding it today in task 92397327 but I get the error message: > > "GenericError: Build already in progress (task 92381483)" > > I tried doing "koji cancel 923814

Carla-2.5.0 compilation fails with: error: static assertion failed: 64-bit large file support is not enabled

2022-09-28 Thread Martin Gansser
Hi, when i compiling Carla-2.5.0 [1] the compilation fails on i686, ppc64le and s390x platform, it fails with the follwoing error message [2]. g++ CarlaEngineDummy.cpp -Wall -Wextra -pipe -DBUILDING_CARLA -DREAL_BUILD -MD -MP -fno-common -fPIC -DPIC -DNDEBUG -O2 -ffast-math -fdata-sections -ff

Re: status update on "ostree native containers"

2022-09-28 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, Sep 28, 2022, at 9:47 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > FYI, the command in that page doesn't appear to be working because > "latest" is the default tag if you don't specify one for docker and it > doesn't exist, so you have to append ":stable" or something like that. https://github.com/cor

How do I "unstick" koji?

2022-09-28 Thread Steven A. Falco
Yesterday, I had a build that failed. The task ID is 92381483. I tried rebuilding it today in task 92397327 but I get the error message: "GenericError: Build already in progress (task 92381483)" I tried doing "koji cancel 92381483" but that doesn't help. Another attempt (task 92398262) faile

Re: status update on "ostree native containers"

2022-09-28 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 6:09 PM Colin Walters wrote: > We shipped https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/OstreeNativeContainer > in Fedora 36 and a lot has happened since then. > > One of the biggest things is that rpm-ostree now knows how to > intelligently generate reproducible "chunked" con

Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1

2022-09-28 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, Sep 28 2022 at 06:49:42 AM +, Tommy Nguyen wrote: With a single maintainer introducing a ffmpeg-free binary packages into Fedora, competing with our fully featured ffmpeg build, this leads to various conflicts and interactions issues. While one could admittedly rejoice fr

Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1

2022-09-28 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 3:22 PM Ian Pilcher wrote: > > On 9/28/22 03:50, Tommy Nguyen wrote: > > This change will only affect AMD, as the intel non-free drivers do not > > depend on the changes. It is also unclear how this would affect nvidia. > > There is barely any hardware video acceleration su

Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1

2022-09-28 Thread Ian Pilcher
On 9/28/22 03:50, Tommy Nguyen wrote: This change will only affect AMD, as the intel non-free drivers do not depend on the changes. It is also unclear how this would affect nvidia. There is barely any hardware video acceleration support for nouveau anyway, for which you would install the propriet

Re: OpenSSL and ECC patents (was Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1)

2022-09-28 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 2:41 PM Michael J Gruber wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 1:15 PM Michael J Gruber > > > > > Let's talk for a moment here about this. I'm going to give you some > > "inside baseball" (or at least as much as I can). I can tell you up > > front that ffmpeg in Fedora is

Re: OpenSSL and ECC patents (was Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1)

2022-09-28 Thread Michael J Gruber
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 1:15 PM Michael J Gruber wrote: > > Let's talk for a moment here about this. I'm going to give you some > "inside baseball" (or at least as much as I can). I can tell you up > front that ffmpeg in Fedora is *entirely* my fault. Thanks for the inside view. Please note th

Re: OpenSSL and ECC patents (was Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1)

2022-09-28 Thread Michael J Gruber
> As one of the people that has previously generated one of the hobbled > tarballs you consider a potential trust issue: The hobbled tarball is the > upstream tarball for the particular release we ship after we extract it, run > ./hobble-openssl (which you’ll find in the package) and repack it. >

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20220928.n.0 changes

2022-09-28 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20220927.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20220928.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 11 Added packages: 4 Dropped packages:14 Upgraded packages: 74 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 23.03 MiB Size of dropped packages

Re: OpenSSL and ECC patents (was Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1)

2022-09-28 Thread Simo Sorce
On Wed, 2022-09-28 at 14:21 +0200, Neal Gompa wrote: > I'm (personally, though IANAL) of the opinion that the hobbling of > crypto libraries is probably no longer necessary and can be retired > entirely. The method of producing the stripped sources is > reproducible, so from our guidelines perspect

Re: OpenSSL and ECC patents (was Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1)

2022-09-28 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 1:15 PM Michael J Gruber wrote: > > As Fedora users and contributors, we profit a lot from everything that RedHat > provides to the Fedora project, be it infra, people-power or "leverage" > (talking to vendors etc.). In turn, RedHat can expect a certain amount of > under

Re: OpenSSL and ECC patents (was Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1)

2022-09-28 Thread Clemens Lang
Hi, Michael J Gruber wrote: Understanding is helped greatly by communication, though. Legal answers such as "We can not" do not further this understanding, and "We can not and we can not tell you why" is not much better, but these are the typical answer we get, not even with a "sorry, but we c

Re: OpenSSL and ECC patents (was Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1)

2022-09-28 Thread Michael J Gruber
> Note that depending on the legal outcome mesa might have to go the hobbled > route, too: > simply disabling the codecs in %build does not change anything about > redistributing the > source. ... or may not, if it's only about the hardware implementation, in which case I would suggest merely c

Re: OpenSSL and ECC patents (was Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1)

2022-09-28 Thread Michael J Gruber
As Fedora users and contributors, we profit a lot from everything that RedHat provides to the Fedora project, be it infra, people-power or "leverage" (talking to vendors etc.). In turn, RedHat can expect a certain amount of understanding from "us" for their business interests, which include lega

Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1

2022-09-28 Thread Tommy Nguyen
On Wed, 2022-09-28 at 15:11 +0800, yanqiy...@gmail.com wrote: > I would be very SAD if this change lands on my computer. While > instead > of arguing with some legal puzzles, I think those parts can be > provided > by seperate package (and maybe packaged in rpmfusion?) like intel- > media-driver.

Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1

2022-09-28 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 8:50 AM Tommy Nguyen wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2022-09-28 at 08:40 +0200, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 8:38 AM Tommy Nguyen > > wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, 2022-09-28 at 08:24 +0200, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > As one of the ffmpeg maintainers, I'm actively work

Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1

2022-09-28 Thread yanqiyu01
I would be very SAD if this change lands on my computer. While instead of arguing with some legal puzzles, I think those parts can be provided by seperate package (and maybe packaged in rpmfusion?) like intel- media-driver.  Is there any build-to-build ABI match requirement between the VAAPI imple