Can we start changing License to SPDX now?

> #2799 F38 Change proposal: SPDX License Phase 1 > APPROVED (+5,0,-0) Do I understand it correctly that we can change License tags in our spec files to SPDX syntax right now? Or should we wait until updating to SPDX identifiers? --

Re: Suggestion: Use a unified kernel image by default in the future.

V Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 08:27:16PM +0100, David Howells napsal(a): > Sharpened Blade via devel wrote: > > > It would be stored with permissions for only root to read it, and you disk > > should be encrypted, or none of this matters. > > It doesn't matter if your disk is encrypted. Whilst your co

Fix aarch64 build on embree

Hello team, What is the way to disable `-mss2 for aarch64 build in embree? Spec file: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/embree/blob/rawhide/f/embree.spec Scratch build result: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=88867571 Thanks in advance. -- Luya Tshimbalanga Fedora Des

Re: Unresponsive maintainer: Alex Chernyakhovsky

On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 4:30:14 PM CDT Robbie Harwood wrote: > I have started the responsive maintainer process due to lack of contact > through bugzilla mail. Specifically, this is about an epel9 branch, > which has been repeatedly requested since March (including an offer to > maintain the bra

Anyone want to review swap? (rocm-opencl)

I'm looking to see if anyone wants to review swap with me: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2090823 Thanks! ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code

Re: Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2022-06-28) is cancelled. Many announcements

On Tue, 2022-06-28 at 22:00 +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > That's part of what makes it hard to discuss things with you: > > the proposal _explicitly_ says that only some libraries will be bundled. > > (There's a separate section about this!) > > So it

Re: Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2022-06-28) is cancelled. Many announcements

One thing I forgot in my previous reply to this post: Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > As you say, it's "SHOULD", and the maintainers argue that it'll be much > easier for them to do it in this way. I believe that the rationale for doing the opposite of a SHOULD ought to be much stronger tha

Re: Unresponsive maintainer: Alex Chernyakhovsky

Alex Chernyakhovsky writes: > I just replied on bugzilla. No one has attempted to contact me before. Well... as a Fedora maintainer, there's an expectation that you'll read your bugzilla email from time to time :) I know stuff happens, and from your bz comment it sounds like there was some issu

Re: Suggestion: Use a unified kernel image by default in the future.

A key on an encrypted disk can still prevent evil maid attacks, though an attacker with local access can still compromise the system. In the current system, an attacker with permissions required to read kernel memory can just ask the shim to boot their modified kernel. __

Unresponsive maintainer: Alex Chernyakhovsky

Hi Alex + Fedora, I'm trying to contact Alex Chernyakhovsky, the maintainer of mosh. Does anyone know how to contact them? I have started the responsive maintainer process due to lack of contact through bugzilla mail. Specifically, this is about an epel9 branch, which has been repeatedly reques

Re: Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2022-06-28) is cancelled. Many announcements

Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > That's part of what makes it hard to discuss things with you: > the proposal _explicitly_ says that only some libraries will be bundled. > (There's a separate section about this!) > So it's not "all-bundled" but "some of the low-level libs are bundled". I am so

Re: Suggestion: Use a unified kernel image by default in the future.

Sharpened Blade via devel wrote: > It would be stored with permissions for only root to read it, and you disk > should be encrypted, or none of this matters. It doesn't matter if your disk is encrypted. Whilst your computer is online, the contents are accessible. If your kernel memory is acces

Re: Suggestion: Use a unified kernel image by default in the future.

Sharpened Blade via devel wrote: > [...] Software should be secure by itself, [...] That's impossible to achieve. Without hardware support, you cannot make your software secure. Further, human beings are involved in the writing of the software - and the larger the codebase and the more people

Re: Suggestion: Use a unified kernel image by default in the future.

It would be stored with permissions for only root to read it, and you disk should be encrypted, or none of this matters. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Co

Fedora 36 on Linux Saloon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=769-0f75Xag The last episode of Linux Saloon of June 2022 is about Fedora 36 ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduc

Re: Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2022-06-28) is cancelled. Many announcements

On 6/28/22 09:35, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > On 28/06/2022 15:29, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: >> We can treat this as an experiment. The hope is that Java upstream is >> big enough to be able to release updates for any CVEs in a timely manner, >> and that the RHEL/Fedora maintainers a

Re: Grafana license change from ASL 2.0 to AGPLv3

On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 05:16:14PM +0200, Andreas Gerstmayr wrote: > I plan to submit a Grafana 8.5.6 rebase to Fedora rawhide in the coming > days. Why not to v9? -- Tomasz Torcz Morality must always be based on practicality. to...@pipebreaker.pl — Baron Vladim

Re: Suggestion: Use a unified kernel image by default in the future.

On 6/28/22 07:21, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Chris Murphy: > >> On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:56 AM Florian Weimer wrote: >>> >>> * Neal Gompa: >>> I treat Secure Boot purely as a compatibility interface. We need to do just enough to get through the secure boot environment. >>> >>> Right. I

Re: Suggestion: Use a unified kernel image by default in the future.

> Demi Marie Obenour wrote: >> On 6/25/22 07:56, Roberto Ragusa wrote: >>> On 6/19/22 22:54, Sharpened Blade via devel wrote: >>> Use unified kernel images by default for new releases. This can allow for the local installation to sign the kernel and the initrd, so the boot chain can

Grafana license change from ASL 2.0 to AGPLv3

Upstream Grafana changed the license in Grafana v8 from Apache License 2.0 to Affero General Public License (AGPL) v3 [1] [2] [3]. I plan to submit a Grafana 8.5.6 rebase to Fedora rawhide in the coming days. [1] https://grafana.com/blog/2021/04/20/grafana-loki-tempo-relicensing-to-agplv3/ [2]

Re: Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2022-06-28) is cancelled. Many announcements

On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 03:35:35PM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > I don't think it makes sense to restart the discussion here. I disagree > > that there was (any) consensus on the mailing list. If you feel that it's > > better to use a non-Fedora JRE,

Re: Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2022-06-28) is cancelled. Many announcements

On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 at 10:18, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On 28/06/2022 15:52, Stephen Smoogen wrote: > > Since I do not see this decision changing, it is probably time for > > people negatively affected by this change to set up a COPR or some other > > buil

Re: Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2022-06-28) is cancelled. Many announcements

On 28/06/2022 15:52, Stephen Smoogen wrote: Since I do not see this decision changing,  it is probably time for people negatively affected by this change to set up a COPR or some other build system which builds the packages as they were previously. I think it will be better to introduce the co

Re: F37 proposal: Deprecate openssl1.1 package (System-Wide Change)

On 27. 06. 22 13:27, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: == FAIL: test_openssl_version (test.test_ssl.BasicSocketTests) -- Traceback (most recent call last): File "/hom

Re: F37 Change Proposal: MAC Address Policy none (System-Wide Change)

On 6/27/22 22:35, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Sat, Jun 25, 2022 at 3:06 PM Vipul Siddharth > wrote: >> >> This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes >> process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive >> community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented i

Re: Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2022-06-28) is cancelled. Many announcements

On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 03:05:32PM +0200, Ralf Corsépius wrote: > > > Am 28.06.22 um 14:51 schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek: > > On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 02:41:42PM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > > > > It certainly is not true that the feedback was not considered by FESCo: > > > > th

Re: Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2022-06-28) is cancelled. Many announcements

On Tue, Jun 28 2022 at 03:29:33 PM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: We can treat this as an experiment. The hope is that Java upstream is big enough to be able to release updates for any CVEs in a timely manner, and that the RHEL/Fedora maintainers are able to provide updates in a tim

Fedora-Rawhide-20220628.n.0 compose check report

Missing expected images: Minimal raw-xz armhfp Compose PASSES proposed Rawhide gating check! All required tests passed Failed openQA tests: 8/163 (aarch64), 11/233 (x86_64) New failures (same test not failed in Fedora-Rawhide-20220627.n.0): ID: 1308598 Test: aarch64 Server-dvd-iso server_c

Re: Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2022-06-28) is cancelled. Many announcements

On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 at 09:37, Kevin Kofler via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > I don't think it makes sense to restart the discussion here. I disagree > > that there was (any) consensus on the mailing list. If you feel that it's > > better to

Re: Request: Airspy HF+

Any news about this? I saw this, but it appears to not be working with Fedora 36: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1917510#c10 Also, airspyone_host-1.0.9-13 needs to be updated to airspyone_host-1.0.10. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists

Re: Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2022-06-28) is cancelled. Many announcements

On 28/06/2022 15:29, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: We can treat this as an experiment. The hope is that Java upstream is big enough to be able to release updates for any CVEs in a timely manner, and that the RHEL/Fedora maintainers are able to provide updates in a timely manner. If it turns

Re: Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2022-06-28) is cancelled. Many announcements

Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > I don't think it makes sense to restart the discussion here. I disagree > that there was (any) consensus on the mailing list. If you feel that it's > better to use a non-Fedora JRE, that's certainly possible, please just do > that if you want to. Personally, I s

Re: Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2022-06-28) is cancelled. Many announcements

On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 03:05:32PM +0200, Ralf Corsépius wrote: > > > Am 28.06.22 um 14:51 schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek: > > On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 02:41:42PM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > > > > It certainly is not true that the feedback was not considered by FESCo: > > > > th

Re: Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2022-06-28) is cancelled. Many announcements

Am 28.06.22 um 14:51 schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek: On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 02:41:42PM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: It certainly is not true that the feedback was not considered by FESCo: there was a long discussion on IRC, and FESCo members also participated in the mailing lis

Re: Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2022-06-28) is cancelled. Many announcements

On 6/28/22 08:08, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 07:21:33AM -0400, Dusty Mabe wrote: >> >> >> On 6/28/22 05:22, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: >>> We have one ticket tagged with 'meeting', but there has been no >>> progress in discussion or implementation, so I'm

Re: Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2022-06-28) is cancelled. Many announcements

On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 02:41:42PM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > The whole proposal consists of a few parts. The part that was voted on > > was the first part. Various people opposed the whole proposal, but it > > was the later parts that raised the s

Re: Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2022-06-28) is cancelled. Many announcements

Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > The whole proposal consists of a few parts. The part that was voted on > was the first part. Various people opposed the whole proposal, but it > was the later parts that raised the stronger opposition. I and others have also objected to the entire concept of bu

Re: Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2022-06-28) is cancelled. Many announcements

On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 02:24:17PM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 02:07:54PM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > > #2794 F37 Change proposal: Build all JDKs in Fedora against in-tree > > > #libraries and with static st

Re: Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2022-06-28) is cancelled. Many announcements

On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 02:07:54PM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > #2794 F37 Change proposal: Build all JDKs in Fedora against in-tree > > #libraries and with static stdc++lib > > APPROVED: FESCo approves the use of bundled libraries and static libstdc+

Re: Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2022-06-28) is cancelled. Many announcements

On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 07:21:33AM -0400, Dusty Mabe wrote: > > > On 6/28/22 05:22, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > We have one ticket tagged with 'meeting', but there has been no > > progress in discussion or implementation, so I'm cancelling today's > > meeting. > > Hmm. That would be h

Re: Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2022-06-28) is cancelled. Many announcements

Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > #2794 F37 Change proposal: Build all JDKs in Fedora against in-tree > #libraries and with static stdc++lib > APPROVED: FESCo approves the use of bundled libraries and static libstdc++ > for building Java (+5, 1, -0) WTF, why??? The feedback in the mailing list

Re: Suggestion: Use a unified kernel image by default in the future.

* Chris Murphy: > On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:56 AM Florian Weimer wrote: >> >> * Neal Gompa: >> >> > I treat Secure Boot purely as a compatibility interface. We need to do >> > just enough to get through the secure boot environment. >> >> Right. It's not even clear to me why we enforce kernel mod

Re: Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2022-06-28) is cancelled. Many announcements

On 6/28/22 05:22, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > We have one ticket tagged with 'meeting', but there has been no > progress in discussion or implementation, so I'm cancelling today's > meeting. Hmm. That would be https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2804 I don't really know what else I'm suppose

Re: Suggestion: Use a unified kernel image by default in the future.

On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 01:12:25PM +0200, Petr Pisar wrote: > On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 9:27 AM Daniel P. Berrangé > wrote: > > That's thinking about the problem from the wrong point of view. SecureBoot > > doesn't prevent an attacker from booting an OS that's different from what > > you installed,

Re: Suggestion: Use a unified kernel image by default in the future.

On 28/06/2022 09:26, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: What SecureBoot does is to provide a mechanism to assert that what has booted matches the original install, and securely tie that condition to the release of secrets for example to LUKS key. No, it doesn't. It just blocks the ability to load unsign

Re: Suggestion: Use a unified kernel image by default in the future.

On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 9:27 AM Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > That's thinking about the problem from the wrong point of view. SecureBoot > doesn't prevent an attacker from booting an OS that's different from what > you installed, even without shim they could swap to a different Windows > install. Wh

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20220628.n.0 changes

OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20220627.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20220628.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 0 Added packages: 0 Dropped packages:2 Upgraded packages: 122 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 0 B Size of dropped packages:949.12

[Test-Announce] Fedora 37 Rawhide 20220628.n.0 nightly compose nominated for testing

Announcing the creation of a new nightly release validation test event for Fedora 37 Rawhide 20220628.n.0. Please help run some tests for this nightly compose if you have time. For more information on nightly release validation testing, see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki

Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2022-06-28) is cancelled. Many announcements

We have one ticket tagged with 'meeting', but there has been no progress in discussion or implementation, so I'm cancelling today's meeting. We've had a glitch in the process, and various tickets which were voted and approved offline were not announced. I'll do that now here in one fell swoop, tog

Fedora-Cloud-35-20220628.0 compose check report

No missing expected images. Soft failed openQA tests: 1/8 (x86_64), 1/8 (aarch64) (Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug) Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-Cloud-35-20220627.0): ID: 1308279 Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud URL: https://op

Fedora-Cloud-36-20220628.0 compose check report

No missing expected images. Soft failed openQA tests: 1/8 (x86_64), 1/8 (aarch64) (Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug) Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-Cloud-36-20220626.0): ID: 1308263 Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud URL: https://op

Re: Suggestion: Use a unified kernel image by default in the future.

On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 08:42:43AM +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > On 27/06/2022 21:18, Sharpened Blade via devel wrote: > > Also, even when you cant remove Microsoft keys, you can still use the shim. > > If you can't remove Microsoft keys, you're nullifying the whole purpose of > secure

Re: All maven RPM builds no longer possible

That is correct, we removed maven-javadoc-plugin from Fedora since we had found a way to build maven without it. xmvn has its own javadoc generator. On 27. 6. 2022 21:46, Jerry James wrote: On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 3:04 AM Graham Leggett via devel wrote: I just tried to start from "probably si