Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2020-07-15)

2020-07-14 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Wednesday at 14:00UTC in #fedora-meeting-2 on irc.freenode.net. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2020-07-15 14:00 UTC' Links to all issues to

Outdated programs in rawhide

2020-07-14 Thread Xose Vazquez Perez
scala: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1080923 libnetfilter_queue: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1512736 nftables: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1846663 libcap: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1700167 ed: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1805337 gawk: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1823770 freetype: https://bugzilla.

Re: Anyone using Tiled windows on Plasma out there ?

2020-07-14 Thread Sergio Belkin
El mar., 14 jul. 2020 a las 18:17, John Florian () escribió: > On 2020-07-14 13:42, Sergio Belkin wrote: > > What is the better option to to get tiled windows in Plasma? > > I've tried a few kwin scripts with no luck, for example: > > - Grid-Tiling > - Krohnkite > - Tiling Extension > > The best I

Re: Anyone using Tiled windows on Plasma out there ?

2020-07-14 Thread Sergio Belkin
El mar., 14 jul. 2020 a las 17:06, Robert-André Mauchin () escribió: > On Tuesday, 14 July 2020 19:42:17 CEST Sergio Belkin wrote: > > I've never heard about Krohnkite, nor Tiling Extension? Where is it > available? > > > Krohnkite is available here https://github.com/esjeon/krohnkite , well it's

Re: Anyone using Tiled windows on Plasma out there ?

2020-07-14 Thread Sergio Belkin
El mar., 14 jul. 2020 a las 17:06, Robert-André Mauchin () escribió: > On Tuesday, 14 July 2020 19:42:17 CEST Sergio Belkin wrote: > > What is the better option to to get tiled windows in Plasma? > > > > I've tried a few kwin scripts with no luck, for example: > > > > - Grid-Tiling > > - Krohnkite

Re: Btrfs in Silverblue

2020-07-14 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 7:45 AM Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Di, 14.07.20 07:09, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: > > > > > Why at boot time? Well if your default subvolume contains a recent > > > > update that for some reason renders it unbootable, it might be nice to > > > > be

Re: Anyone using Tiled windows on Plasma out there ?

2020-07-14 Thread John Florian
On 2020-07-14 13:42, Sergio Belkin wrote: > What is the better option to to get tiled windows in Plasma? > > I've tried a few kwin scripts with no luck, for example: > > - Grid-Tiling > - Krohnkite > - Tiling Extension > > The best I've tried so far is the last one, but can be too unstable... > > W

Re: Ditch RPM in favor of DPKG

2020-07-14 Thread Dishant Pandya
Its ok to have something that builds deb packages on Fedora, but in my opinion RPM is far more better then debian packages. Also the Dnf and yum package manager on Fedora are far more advanced than apt on Ubuntu and other Debian Based system. I have been using fedora for over 2 years now and I h

Re: Ditch RPM in favor of DPKG

2020-07-14 Thread Dishant Pandya
Its ok to have something that builds deb packages on Fedora, but in my opinion RPM is far more better then debian packages. Also the Dnf and yum package manager on Fedora are far more advanced than apt on Ubuntu and other Debian Based system. I have been using fedora for over 2 years now and I h

Re: Anyone using Tiled windows on Plasma out there ?

2020-07-14 Thread Robbie Harwood
Sergio Belkin writes: > What is the better option to to get tiled windows in Plasma? > > I've tried a few kwin scripts with no luck, for example: > > - Grid-Tiling > - Krohnkite > - Tiling Extension > > The best I've tried so far is the last one, but can be too unstable... > > What is your experi

Re: Anyone using Tiled windows on Plasma out there ?

2020-07-14 Thread Robert-André Mauchin
On Tuesday, 14 July 2020 19:42:17 CEST Sergio Belkin wrote: > What is the better option to to get tiled windows in Plasma? > > I've tried a few kwin scripts with no luck, for example: > > - Grid-Tiling > - Krohnkite > - Tiling Extension > > The best I've tried so far is the last one, but can be

Orphaning a number of Lua-related packages

2020-07-14 Thread Tim Niemueller
Dear Fedora Community. Things have changed and I can no longer perform all maintainer duties. I have just orphaned several packages. I have given packages which had a co-maintainer to them (Thank you! Many already acted as primary maintainers for a while). If there is a package you care about

Re: Btrfs in Silverblue

2020-07-14 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 1:45 AM Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Mo, 13.07.20 19:16, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: > > > > Yes, because you have to propagate it everywhere, and if you omit it > > > things break, since it's a secondary place you store information about > > > the roo

Re: PostgreSQL 13 - Fedora 33 Self-Contained Change proposal

2020-07-14 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 9:17 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > == Upgrade/compatibility impact == > The PostgreSQL client library (libpq component) is compatible, so > there shouldn't be any issues, but rebuild of the depended components > is better to be sure. There is a > [https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/

Re: X.org Utility Deaggregation - Fedora 33 Self-Contained Change proposal

2020-07-14 Thread Adam Jackson
On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 6:22 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > Repoquery: > $ for i in xorg-x11-{apps,font-utils,server-utils,utils,xkb-utils}; do echo > == $i; dnf repoquery --whatrequires $i; echo; done This is a bit of an overcount since you're not using --exactdeps. datura:~% for i i

Anyone using Tiled windows on Plasma out there ?

2020-07-14 Thread Sergio Belkin
What is the better option to to get tiled windows in Plasma? I've tried a few kwin scripts with no luck, for example: - Grid-Tiling - Krohnkite - Tiling Extension The best I've tried so far is the last one, but can be too unstable... What is your experience about it? -- -- Sergio Belkin LPIC-2

Re: Btrfs in Silverblue

2020-07-14 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, Jul 14, 2020, at 3:44 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > If however they share the same kernel/boot menu item between multiple > versions of the OS tree, then I'd always embedd which version to boot > in the fs itself by default, Yep, that's how it works today - ostree only touches the BL

Re: Btrfs in Silverblue

2020-07-14 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 2:45 PM Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Di, 14.07.20 07:09, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: > > > > > Why at boot time? Well if your default subvolume contains a recent > > > > update that for some reason renders it unbootable, it might be nice to > > > > be

Re: Btrfs in Silverblue

2020-07-14 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Di, 14.07.20 07:09, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: > > > Why at boot time? Well if your default subvolume contains a recent > > > update that for some reason renders it unbootable, it might be nice to > > > be able to pick a prior snapshot. That's how they do this. It isn't > > >

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20200714.n.0 changes

2020-07-14 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20200713.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20200714.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:1 Dropped images: 9 Added packages: 11 Dropped packages:6 Upgraded packages: 101 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 87.56 MiB Size of dropped packages

Re: Btrfs in Silverblue

2020-07-14 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 1:39 AM Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Mo, 13.07.20 19:07, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: > > Yes, the kernel also supports an initrd-less mode, where it's the > kernel itself that parses root=/rootflags=, but we don't use that in > Fedora (and because btrf

Re: [fedora-java] Re: Announcement: Aim to remove libdb-java from Fedora-rawhide

2020-07-14 Thread Ondrej Dubaj
Hello everyone, today I am removing libdb-java subpackage from Fedora-rawhide (see messages above for more info). If someone of you will face any problems, please let us know. Thanks! Regards, Ondrej On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 11:27 AM Ondrej Dubaj wrote: > I don;t think this is a reason not rem

Re: Firefox 78.0.2 for F32

2020-07-14 Thread Bojan Smojver via devel
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List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in August

2020-07-14 Thread Miro Hrončok
Dear maintainers. Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following packages will be retired from Fedora 33 approximately one week before branching (August 2020). Policy: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/ Note that som

Re: Firefox 78.0.2 for F32

2020-07-14 Thread Jiří Eischmann
Kevin Fenzi píše v Po 13. 07. 2020 v 16:37 -0700: > On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 08:33:04AM +1000, Bojan Smojver via devel > wrote: > > Would someone with sufficient powers mind queueing up this update? > > I would assume that person would be the one who built it... > > perhaps there's some reason fo

Nest with Fedora CfP is open!

2020-07-14 Thread Marie Nordin
Nest with Fedora call for participation is open! We welcome you to submit a session. Conference website: https://flocktofedora.org/ Submission repo: https://pagure.io/flock/issues CfP info: https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/nest-with-fedora-cfp-open/ Conference dates: August 7th-9th Submissi

Re: Btrfs in Silverblue

2020-07-14 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 5:31 AM Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Di, 14.07.20 04:35, Neal Gompa (ngomp...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > Nah, this kind of selection you do in the initrd, not in the boot loader. > > > > Yes. SUSE does this at the bootloader time. A *huge* part of the code > > they added t

Re: Btrfs in Silverblue

2020-07-14 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Di, 14.07.20 04:35, Neal Gompa (ngomp...@gmail.com) wrote: > > Nah, this kind of selection you do in the initrd, not in the boot loader. > > Yes. SUSE does this at the bootloader time. A *huge* part of the code > they added to GRUB is to automatically discover all this and populate > the menu an

Re: Btrfs in Silverblue

2020-07-14 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 3:39 AM Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Mo, 13.07.20 19:07, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 12:14 PM Lennart Poettering > > wrote: > > > > > Quite frankly, I don't see why the boot loader should care about the > > > btrfs subvol

Re: Enable EarlyOOM on Fedora KDE - Fedora 33 Self-Contained Change proposal

2020-07-14 Thread Benjamin Berg
On Mon, 2020-07-13 at 19:25 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 12:00 PM Benjamin Berg wrote: > > If MemAvailable drops below 250MiB (roughly 6GiB * 4%), then this means > > that we have less than 500MiB left for file caches. If we can't swap > > (remember, swap is already pretty

Re: Btrfs in Silverblue

2020-07-14 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mo, 13.07.20 19:16, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: > > Yes, because you have to propagate it everywhere, and if you omit it > > things break, since it's a secondary place you store information about > > the root disk in that you strictly need to have to be able to make > > sense

Re: Btrfs in Silverblue

2020-07-14 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mo, 13.07.20 19:07, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: > On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 12:14 PM Lennart Poettering > wrote: > > > Quite frankly, I don't see why the boot loader should care about the > > btrfs subvolume the initrd later picks at all. > > As far as I'm aware, rootflags= is