Re: Is 50+ RPM Subpackages too extreme?

2019-11-26 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 11/27/19 5:45 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Chris writes: Hi guys, I just wanted to poll you for some advice.  My notification tool I maintain supports more than 50+ services now, but the only package isolation I do You should really count the number of texlive subpackages… I would not

Re: Is 50+ RPM Subpackages too extreme?

2019-11-26 Thread Tom Hughes
On 27/11/2019 01:49, Chris wrote: I kind of like the way nagios-plugins breaks apart it's check_scripts into many sub-packages, but 50+ subpackages seems a bit extreme... or is it? It certainly seems like a bit of a nightmare to maintain; it would be one very large .spec file. If the subpack

Fedora-Cloud-30-20191127.0 compose check report

2019-11-26 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Passed openQA tests: 1/1 (x86_64) -- Mail generated by check-compose: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/check-compose ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedorap

Re: Is 50+ RPM Subpackages too extreme?

2019-11-26 Thread Igor Gnatenko
No, 50 is perfectly fine. As others mentioned, we have much bigger amount of them in texlive. If those are like plugins which may or may not require other packages, I would split them. And probably put Recommends in the main package for the most used ones. On Wed, Nov 27, 2019, 02:58 Chris wrote

Re: Is 50+ RPM Subpackages too extreme?

2019-11-26 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/26/19 8:34 PM, Sérgio Basto wrote: On Tue, 2019-11-26 at 20:49 -0500, Chris wrote: I just wanted to poll you for some advice.  My notification tool I maintain supports more than 50+ services now, but the only package isolation I do within 2 RPMs.  One for the actual CLI (for admin's who

Retiring embree2

2019-11-26 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
embree2 is no longer needed by luxcorerender and YafaRay as both supports embree 3.6.1. There are no other depending packages so it is now retired from the development repository. Reference: --- [1] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/embree2 -- Luya Tshimbalanga Fedora Design Team

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-11-26 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Tuesday, November 26, 2019 8:53:49 AM MST Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 9:35 am, Chris Adams wrote: > > > That should be considered a bug IMHO... > > > At least for rescue mode, probably yes, but I don't know what to do > about it. Can we make systemd's rescue prompt as

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-11-26 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Tuesday, November 26, 2019 8:10:49 AM MST Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 8:03 am, Chris Adams wrote: > > > How does that work with single-user mode, rescue mode, etc.? > > > I assume single-user mode does not work. Rescue mode certainly does not > work. It asks for a roo

Re: Is 50+ RPM Subpackages too extreme?

2019-11-26 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Tue, 2019-11-26 at 20:49 -0500, Chris wrote: > Hi guys, > > I just wanted to poll you for some advice. My notification tool I > maintain supports more than 50+ services now, but the only package > isolation I do within 2 RPMs. One for the actual CLI (for admin's > who want to use it) and the

Re: Is 50+ RPM Subpackages too extreme?

2019-11-26 Thread Gwyn Ciesla via devel
\ Original Message On Nov 26, 2019, 9:45 PM, Sam Varshavchik < mr...@courier-mta.com> wrote: Chris writes: > Hi guys, > > > I just wanted to poll you for some advice.  My notification tool I maintain > supports more than 50+ services now, but the only package isolation I do

Re: Is 50+ RPM Subpackages too extreme?

2019-11-26 Thread Sam Varshavchik
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Is 50+ RPM Subpackages too extreme?

2019-11-26 Thread Chris
Hi guys, I just wanted to poll you for some advice. My notification tool I maintain supports more than 50+ services now, but the only package isolation I do within 2 RPMs. One for the actual CLI (for admin's who want to use it) and the other is for the backend library (for Devs). I only ask beca

Orphaned i3-ipc and dzen2

2019-11-26 Thread Dan Čermák
Hi list, I have just orphaned i3-ipc and dzen2. Both packages are dead upstream and I never used them (I inherited both as parts of the i3 stack). Feel free to take them, but be aware that you'll effectively have to become the new upstream. Cheers, Dan signature.asc Description: PGP signatur

Re: Announcing new anitya integration and de-orphaning process

2019-11-26 Thread Jerry James
On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 10:56 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 05:26:40PM +, Gwyn Ciesla via devel wrote: > > > > Seconded! Thirded! Or more like fifthed, actually. This is great. -- Jerry James http://www.jamezone.org/ __

Re: RFC: Modularity Simplified

2019-11-26 Thread Nicolas Mailhot via devel
Le mardi 26 novembre 2019 à 16:58 +0100, Igor Gnatenko a écrit : Hi, Igor > And we can't actually > have multiple versions of a package with same name (without "mangled" > names) in a repo due to the way how our buildsystem works (and not > only buildsystem, with some caveats). I suppose you're

Re: Announcing new anitya integration and de-orphaning process

2019-11-26 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 05:26:40PM +, Gwyn Ciesla via devel wrote: > Seconded! Zbyszek ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs

Re: Announcing new anitya integration and de-orphaning process

2019-11-26 Thread Charalampos Stratakis
- Original Message - > From: "Pierre-Yves Chibon" > To: devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 1:13:45 PM > Subject: Announcing new anitya integration and de-orphaning process > > Good Morning Everyone, > > Tomorrow we are planning on deploying a new

Re: RFC: Modularity Simplified

2019-11-26 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
As a meta-goal, we should break up "Modularity" into a number of separate components, some build-side, some client-side. Modularity suffers greatly from trying to encode everything into one document. This greatly raises the complexity of the task and makes it hard to consider alternative proposals

Re: Announcing new anitya integration and de-orphaning process

2019-11-26 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 12:22 PM Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > Good Morning Everyone, > > Tomorrow we are planning on deploying a new version of pagure and > pagure-dist-git on production. > > These changes come with two changes to the packager workflow: > > * Anitya integration in dist-git > > So

Re: Announcing new anitya integration and de-orphaning process

2019-11-26 Thread Gwyn Ciesla via devel
--  Gwyn Ciesla she/her/hers   in your fear, seek only peace  in your fear, seek only love -d. bowie Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, November 26, 2019 6:13 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > Good Mo

Announcing new anitya integration and de-orphaning process

2019-11-26 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
Good Morning Everyone, Tomorrow we are planning on deploying a new version of pagure and pagure-dist-git on production. These changes come with two changes to the packager workflow: * Anitya integration in dist-git Something we lost when loosing pkgdb was the easy integration to anitya (https:/

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-11-26 Thread Kevin Kofler
Dominique Martinet wrote: > They just expected no root password = no login possible, but it turns > out 'su' just gave out a root shell with no password entered... Then they need to RTFM of passwd. The correct way to block password login for an account is passwd -l, not passwd -d. Even passwd --

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-11-26 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 9:48 AM Chris Adams wrote: > > Once upon a time, Chris Murphy said: > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 8:36 AM Chris Adams wrote: > > > > > > Once upon a time, Michael Catanzaro said: > > > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 8:03 am, Chris Adams wrote: > > > > >How does that work with

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-11-26 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 2:26 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DisallowEmptyPasswordsByDefault > > == Summary == > Remove ''nullok'' parameter from pam_unix module in default PAM > configuration in order to disallow authentication with empty password. How difficult i

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-11-26 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Chris Murphy said: > On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 8:36 AM Chris Adams wrote: > > > > Once upon a time, Michael Catanzaro said: > > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 8:03 am, Chris Adams wrote: > > > >How does that work with single-user mode, rescue mode, etc.? > > > > > > I assume single-u

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-11-26 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 8:36 AM Chris Adams wrote: > > Once upon a time, Michael Catanzaro said: > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 8:03 am, Chris Adams wrote: > > >How does that work with single-user mode, rescue mode, etc.? > > > > I assume single-user mode does not work. Rescue mode certainly does >

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20191126.n.1 changes

2019-11-26 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20191122.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20191126.n.1 = SUMMARY = Added images:1 Dropped images: 3 Added packages: 59 Dropped packages:5 Upgraded packages: 336 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 433.59 MiB Size of dropped packages

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-11-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2019-11-26 at 08:14 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2019-11-26 at 09:45 +0100, Dominique Martinet wrote: > > Adam Williamson wrote on Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 03:55:28PM -0800: > > > I gotta say +1 too. I don't buy that there's a significant 'hardening' > > > benefit worth all the effor

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-11-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2019-11-26 at 09:45 +0100, Dominique Martinet wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote on Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 03:55:28PM -0800: > > I gotta say +1 too. I don't buy that there's a significant 'hardening' > > benefit worth all the effort mentioned in the Change *plus* the > > additional consequences K

Fedora-Rawhide-20191126.n.1 compose check report

2019-11-26 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Compose FAILS proposed Rawhide gating check! 18 of 43 required tests failed, 17 results missing openQA tests matching unsatisfied gating requirements shown with **GATING** below Failed openQA tests: 89/161 (x86_64), 1/2 (arm) New failures (same test not failed in Fed

RFC: Modularity Simplified

2019-11-26 Thread Igor Gnatenko
Hello fellows, After last publication on LWN about Fedora Modularity mess, I think it is time to describe the idea I was proposing internally with few other folks (Adam Samalik, Brian Exelbierd) back in the RH times. Before I actually go deep, I'll try to answer main questions to myself (so that

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-11-26 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 9:35 am, Chris Adams wrote: That should be considered a bug IMHO... At least for rescue mode, probably yes, but I don't know what to do about it. Can we make systemd's rescue prompt ask for username and allow logging in with any user account (goal being to log in to a

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-11-26 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Michael Catanzaro said: > On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 8:03 am, Chris Adams wrote: > >How does that work with single-user mode, rescue mode, etc.? > > I assume single-user mode does not work. Rescue mode certainly does > not work. It asks for a root password, but root account is loc

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-11-26 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 9:45 am, Dominique Martinet wrote: They just expected no root password = no login possible, but it turns out 'su' just gave out a root shell with no password entered... It depends on whether the account is locked or not. In Workstation we default to locked passwordless

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-11-26 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 8:03 am, Chris Adams wrote: How does that work with single-user mode, rescue mode, etc.? I assume single-user mode does not work. Rescue mode certainly does not work. It asks for a root password, but root account is locked. Michael __

Re: ManPageScan?

2019-11-26 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 11:30:16 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 10:37:57AM +, Ankur Sinha wrote: > > Hi, > > > > One of the `munge` package bugs I'm looking into are related to a "Man > > Page Scan": > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1612190 > >

Re: Recent size increase when building library on Fedora 31 (maybe due to broken ELF notes, annobin?)

2019-11-26 Thread Thomas Haller
On Sun, 2019-11-24 at 12:00 +0100, Thomas Haller wrote: > On Sun, 2019-11-24 at 11:54 +0100, Thomas Haller wrote: > > > when building libnm for Fedora 31, I noticed a recent increase in > > size. > > this seems to be the RHBZ: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1775885 > Hi, to pro

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-11-26 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, David Kaufmann said: > At least with Fedora 31 the root-Password is invalid by default, so I > guess it has been set to an empty password explicitely. How does that work with single-user mode, rescue mode, etc.? In the past, you could change the options to /sbin/sulogin, but sy

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-11-26 Thread Pete Walter
26.11.2019, 11:39, "Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek" : > On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 03:55:28PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: >>  On Tue, 2019-11-26 at 00:34 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: >>  > Samuel Sieb wrote: >>  > > Steps 1 - 4 are not benefits, they are workarounds to critical system >>  > > utilities

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-11-26 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 03:55:28PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2019-11-26 at 00:34 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Samuel Sieb wrote: > > > Steps 1 - 4 are not benefits, they are workarounds to critical system > > > utilities required by this change. I don't understand why this change >

Re: ManPageScan?

2019-11-26 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 10:37:57AM +, Ankur Sinha wrote: > Hi, > > One of the `munge` package bugs I'm looking into are related to a "Man > Page Scan": > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1612190 > > Are these suggestions for improvement only, or are they changes that > must be made

Upgrade of rdiff-backup to Release 1.4.0b0 (beta) & python3

2019-11-26 Thread Frank Crawford
In preparation for the move of rdiff-backup to python3, we have built the current beta for rawhide. In addition to allow testing over older systems, we have also created a COPR repo, for F29, F30, F31, EPEL7 and EPEL8 for all support architectures. This can be accessed as "dnf copr enable frankcr

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-11-26 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Tuesday, November 26, 2019 3:31:54 AM MST Kamil Paral wrote: > On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 10:27 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DisallowEmptyPasswordsByDefault > > > > == Summary == > > Remove ''nullok'' parameter from pam_unix module in default PAM > > configurati

ManPageScan?

2019-11-26 Thread Ankur Sinha
Hi, One of the `munge` package bugs I'm looking into are related to a "Man Page Scan": https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1612190 Are these suggestions for improvement only, or are they changes that must be made? Was this a system-wide change or something of the sort, since I've not hear

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-11-26 Thread Kamil Paral
On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 10:27 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DisallowEmptyPasswordsByDefault > > == Summary == > Remove ''nullok'' parameter from pam_unix module in default PAM > configuration in order to disallow authentication with empty password. > > == Owner ==

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-11-26 Thread Dominique Martinet
David Kaufmann wrote on Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 11:13:15AM +0100: > On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 09:45:44AM +0100, Dominique Martinet wrote: > > FWIW this has happened at an association I help at -- they had VMs with > > no root password set, and users created by puppet some of whom have > > sudo. > > They

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-11-26 Thread David Kaufmann
On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 09:45:44AM +0100, Dominique Martinet wrote: > FWIW this has happened at an association I help at -- they had VMs with > no root password set, and users created by puppet some of whom have > sudo. > They just expected no root password = no login possible, but it turns > out '

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-11-26 Thread Dominique Martinet
Samuel Sieb wrote on Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 01:38:51AM -0800: > >FWIW this has happened at an association I help at -- they had VMs with > >no root password set, and users created by puppet some of whom have > >sudo. > >They just expected no root password = no login possible, but it turns > >out 'su'

[Bug 1769913] perl-Object-Remote-0.004000-10.fc32 FTBFS: tests fail with Use of uninitialized value $_ in hash element at /builddir/build/BUILD/Object-Remote-0.004000/blib/lib/Object/Remote/FatNode.pm

2019-11-26 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1769913 Petr Pisar changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED Fixed In Version|

Fedora-Cloud-31-20191126.0 compose check report

2019-11-26 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Passed openQA tests: 1/1 (x86_64) -- Mail generated by check-compose: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/check-compose ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedorap

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-11-26 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/26/19 12:45 AM, Dominique Martinet wrote: Adam Williamson wrote on Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 03:55:28PM -0800: I gotta say +1 too. I don't buy that there's a significant 'hardening' benefit worth all the effort mentioned in the Change *plus* the additional consequences Kevin and Martin pointed

No NeuroFedora team meeting today: 26th Nov 2019

2019-11-26 Thread Ankur Sinha
Hello, There will be no NeuroFedora team meeting this afternoon. Meetings will continue next week. -- Thanks, Regards, Ankur Sinha "FranciscoD" (He / Him / His) | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha Time zone: Europe/London signature.asc Description: PGP signature _

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-11-26 Thread Dominique Martinet
Adam Williamson wrote on Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 03:55:28PM -0800: > I gotta say +1 too. I don't buy that there's a significant 'hardening' > benefit worth all the effort mentioned in the Change *plus* the > additional consequences Kevin and Martin pointed out. At minimum I'd > like to see a much more

Fedora-Cloud-29-20191126.0 compose check report

2019-11-26 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Soft failed openQA tests: 1/1 (x86_64) (Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug) Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-Cloud-29-20191125.0): ID: 488591 Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud URL: https://openqa.fedoraproj