Re: Is the MBS (Module Build Service ?) alright?

2019-11-20 Thread Nicolas Mailhot via devel
Le jeudi 21 novembre 2019 à 01:02 +0100, Kevin Kofler a écrit : > Fabio Valentini wrote: > > Today, builds submitted by MBS made up more than 80% of total > > builds, > > or over 5x the number of "normal" builds. > > What an incredible waste of resources. > > Especially considering what small perc

Fedora-Rawhide-20191119.n.2 compose check report

2019-11-20 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Compose FAILS proposed Rawhide gating check! 2 of 45 required tests failed, 2 results missing openQA tests matching unsatisfied gating requirements shown with **GATING** below Unsatisfied gating requirements that could not be mapped to openQA tests: FAILED: compose.clo

Fedora-Rawhide-20191115.n.0 compose check report

2019-11-20 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Compose FAILS proposed Rawhide gating check! 3 of 45 required tests failed, 2 results missing openQA tests matching unsatisfied gating requirements shown with **GATING** below Unsatisfied gating requirements that could not be mapped to openQA tests: FAILED: compose.clo

Fedora-Rawhide-20191109.n.1 compose check report

2019-11-20 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Compose FAILS proposed Rawhide gating check! 4 of 45 required tests failed, 2 results missing openQA tests matching unsatisfied gating requirements shown with **GATING** below Unsatisfied gating requirements that could not be mapped to openQA tests: FAILED: compose.clo

FedoraRespin-31-updates-20191105.0 compose check report

2019-11-20 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 6/31 (x86_64) ID: 481214 Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso desktop_notifications_live URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/481214 ID: 481215 Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso install_default@uefi URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/481215

Re: Minimization Objective report

2019-11-20 Thread Kevin Kofler
Miro Hrončok wrote: > That was put there by me. I understood from the mailing list discussions > that you suggested the same thing as Jan, not just repeated what he said. Indeed, I had not read Jan's mail when I sent mine. Kevin Kofler ___ devel

Re: which old version of fedora can read a old iRIX XFS filesystem ?

2019-11-20 Thread J. Scheurich
Hi, | When trying to mount a old SGI IRIX64 XFS filesystem, current Linux | versions complain with: | function not implemented | So you have to use a older Linux version (e.g. 2.68). Just for the records: i was able to read a IRIX64 XFS MO-dsik with a USB MO-drive using a Ubuntu Linux 4.10 Live

[Bug 1771314] perl-Protocol-HTTP2-1.10 is available

2019-11-20 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1771314 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ON_QA |CLOSED Fixed In Version|perl-P

Re: Minimization Objective report

2019-11-20 Thread Charalampos Stratakis
- Original Message - > From: "Kevin Kofler" > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 1:08:34 AM > Subject: Re: Minimization Objective report > > Charalampos Stratakis wrote: > > We heard the feedback and did a lot of experimentation and benchmarking > > wi

Re: Minimization Objective report

2019-11-20 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 21. 11. 19 1:08, Kevin Kofler wrote: Charalampos Stratakis wrote: We heard the feedback and did a lot of experimentation and benchmarking with a ton of different options so I really can't fathom how you are taking credit for something that others invested so much time in. The new Feature pa

Re: Minimization Objective report

2019-11-20 Thread Kevin Kofler
Charalampos Stratakis wrote: > We heard the feedback and did a lot of experimentation and benchmarking > with a ton of different options so I really can't fathom how you are > taking credit for something that others invested so much time in. The new Feature page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ch

Re: Is the MBS (Module Build Service ?) alright?

2019-11-20 Thread Kevin Kofler
Fabio Valentini wrote: > Today, builds submitted by MBS made up more than 80% of total builds, > or over 5x the number of "normal" builds. > What an incredible waste of resources. Especially considering what small percentage of the packages is actually in modules. If more packages modularize, Koj

Re: Minimization Objective report

2019-11-20 Thread Charalampos Stratakis
- Original Message - > From: "Kevin Kofler" > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 7:10:32 PM > Subject: Re: Minimization Objective report > > Adam Jackson wrote: > > You're right, you spend two months achieving zero towards this goal, > > Well, just a

Re: Modularity and the system-upgrade path

2019-11-20 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Tuesday, November 19, 2019 9:20:29 AM MST Kevin Kofler wrote: > But the scripts do not need to care about the version of Perl you are > running, do they? It matters for compiled code, but why for Perl scripts? > Those can just run with the default version of Perl if they support it, or > with

Re: Modularity and the system-upgrade path

2019-11-20 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Tuesday, November 19, 2019 3:52:27 AM MST Petr Pisar wrote: > If you start fidling with things in PATH, you have the problem of SCL. And > as you wrote, SCL is terrible. And that was the reason why we have > modularity: We do not want to relocate code to non-standard paths. I may be a bit confu

Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2019-11-21 17:00 UTC)

2019-11-20 Thread James Antill
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2019-11-21 17:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. uitime): = Day: Thursday == 2019-11-21 09:00 PST US/Pacific 2019-11-21

Re: Introducing Square 1

2019-11-20 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:19:22 AM MST Vít Ondruch wrote: > Dne 20. 11. 19 v 0:52 John M. Harris Jr napsal(a): > > > > > > >> -- trimming functionality and/or moving functionality to sub-packages > >> or separate package. > > > > For what purpose? Can you provide an example of a package w

Planned Outage - Fedora Build system - 2019-11-20 22:00 UTC

2019-11-20 Thread Kevin Fenzi
There will be an outage starting at 2019-11-20 22:00 UTC, which will last approximately 1 hour. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2019-11-20 22:00 UTC' Reason for outage: We will be updating the koji hub to version 1.19.1

Re: Fedora Release page on wiki not created?

2019-11-20 Thread Ben Cotton
On Wed, Nov 20, 2019, 19:00 Carlos O'Donell wrote: > The Fedora change template here: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/EmptyTemplate > > Says you should reference the "Targeted release" in the status. > > For F31 and F32 it doesn't appear as if the pages were created: > https://fedoraproj

Re: Minimization Objective report

2019-11-20 Thread Kevin Kofler
Adam Jackson wrote: > You're right, you spend two months achieving zero towards this goal, Well, just a few days ago, I managed to stop a Change that would have almost doubled Python 3's size wherever both the python3 executable and the libpython3 library are needed, and to point out an alternat

Fedora Release page on wiki not created?

2019-11-20 Thread Carlos O'Donell
The Fedora change template here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/EmptyTemplate Says you should reference the "Targeted release" in the status. For F31 and F32 it doesn't appear as if the pages were created: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/31/ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases

Re: Minimization Objective report

2019-11-20 Thread Aleksandra Fedorova
On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 6:05 PM David Malcolm wrote: > On Wed, 2019-11-20 at 11:22 -0500, Adam Jackson wrote: > > On Wed, 2019-11-20 at 02:53 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > > Adam Jackson wrote: > > > > That's about 44M worth of potential savings out of a 204M base > > > > image, a > > > > bit ov

Re: Minimization Objective report

2019-11-20 Thread David Malcolm
On Wed, 2019-11-20 at 11:22 -0500, Adam Jackson wrote: > On Wed, 2019-11-20 at 02:53 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Adam Jackson wrote: > > > That's about 44M worth of potential savings out of a 204M base > > > image, a > > > bit over 20%. I'll happily file proper bug reports for these > > > somewh

Re: Minimization Objective report

2019-11-20 Thread Adam Jackson
On Wed, 2019-11-20 at 02:53 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Adam Jackson wrote: > > That's about 44M worth of potential savings out of a 204M base image, a > > bit over 20%. I'll happily file proper bug reports for these somewhere > > if we want, but it took me like 30 minutes to look into this. If yo

Re: What's the State of the Java SIG?

2019-11-20 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 20 Nov 2019 at 10:25, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > Your comments on what you expect OTHER people to do for YOU come across as > > we are all your slaves or serfs. I really expect that isn't your > > intention, but this mode of communication undermines everything

Re: Is the MBS (Module Build Service ?) alright?

2019-11-20 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 12:10 PM Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 11:43 AM Fabio Valentini wrote: > > I've been noticing irregular, weird surges in koji activity for the > > past few weeks, and today, another one happened. Within 2 hours (8AM > > and 10AM UTC), MBS submitted ±3

Re: What's the State of the Java SIG?

2019-11-20 Thread Kevin Kofler
Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 at 22:07, Kevin Kofler wrote: >> Buildroot-only modules? Stuff Java packagers shouldn't use? Why should we >> let one individual packager hold the entire Java ecosystem on Fedora >> hostage with such antisocial diktats? > > Because the alternative

Re: undefined symbol from OpenColorIO prevents Blender from running

2019-11-20 Thread Richard Shaw
On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 6:32 AM Till Hofmann wrote: > On 11/20/19 4:49 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: > > So the problem is really with YAML. It looks like Till Hofmann built > > yaml-cpp 0.6.3 for Fedora 30 and 31 (I only built it for Rawhide) and > > did not rebuild OCIO. > > > > Yes I did. There was

Re: Suspicious file in /usr/lib64

2019-11-20 Thread Ralf Senderek
Thank you Dan for investigating the cause. Ralf ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-cond

Re: Review request: selenium-geckodriver

2019-11-20 Thread Jared K. Smith
On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 7:18 AM Kevin Kofler wrote: > Unfortunately, I doubt that Thomas has sufficient packaging experience to > do > a review swap. > One of the things we should always strive for in Fedora is to assume positive intent. In this situation, that would mean assuming it was an acc

Re: What's the State of the Java SIG?

2019-11-20 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 at 22:07, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Aleksandra Fedorova wrote: > > I see that Mikolaj has a vision how it supposed to work. And I think he > > spent quite some time designing the workflow which would fit this vision, > > thus it is worth to listen to it with an open mind. > > > >

Re: Suspicious file in /usr/lib64

2019-11-20 Thread Dan Horák
On Wed, 20 Nov 2019 11:18:58 +0100 Dan Horák wrote: > On Wed, 20 Nov 2019 10:03:41 - > "Ralf Senderek" wrote: > > > Koschei has informed me that Cryptlib fails to build in F31 on the > > ppc64le platform. The build error is an upackaged file > > "/usr/lib64/st8bPtV6" which obviously should

Re: undefined symbol from OpenColorIO prevents Blender from running

2019-11-20 Thread Till Hofmann
On 11/20/19 1:32 PM, Till Hofmann wrote: On 11/20/19 4:49 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 9:27 PM Luya Tshimbalanga mailto:l...@fedoraproject.org>> wrote:     Some users reported Blender which I maintain failed to start due to     this issue:     blender: symbol lookup err

Re: undefined symbol from OpenColorIO prevents Blender from running

2019-11-20 Thread Till Hofmann
On 11/20/19 4:49 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 9:27 PM Luya Tshimbalanga mailto:l...@fedoraproject.org>> wrote: Some users reported Blender which I maintain failed to start due to this issue: blender: symbol lookup error: /lib64/libOpenColorIO.so.1: undefined sy

Re: Review request: selenium-geckodriver

2019-11-20 Thread Kevin Kofler
Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > I will take your review in exchange of mine below: Unfortunately, I doubt that Thomas has sufficient packaging experience to do a review swap. Packaging binary blobs as he did is a complete no go in Fedora, everything must be built from source. Kevin Kofler __

Re: Modularity and all the things

2019-11-20 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2019-11-19, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > On Tuesday, November 19, 2019 4:42:31 AM MST Petr Pisar wrote: >> Manual work. Random commiters skipping them. > > If your goal is to make it so that "Random commiters" are packagers, that's > going to fall flat very quickly - as they'll just throw one ve

Re: Is the MBS (Module Build Service ?) alright?

2019-11-20 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 11:43 AM Fabio Valentini wrote: > I've been noticing irregular, weird surges in koji activity for the > past few weeks, and today, another one happened. Within 2 hours (8AM > and 10AM UTC), MBS submitted ±350 builds to koji (of which almost half > failed), drowning out any

Is the MBS (Module Build Service ?) alright?

2019-11-20 Thread Fabio Valentini
Hi everybody, I've been noticing irregular, weird surges in koji activity for the past few weeks, and today, another one happened. Within 2 hours (8AM and 10AM UTC), MBS submitted ±350 builds to koji (of which almost half failed), drowning out any other build activity: koji list-builds --after=20

Re: Suspicious file in /usr/lib64

2019-11-20 Thread Dan Horák
On Wed, 20 Nov 2019 10:03:41 - "Ralf Senderek" wrote: > Koschei has informed me that Cryptlib fails to build in F31 on the > ppc64le platform. The build error is an upackaged file > "/usr/lib64/st8bPtV6" which obviously should never exist at all. > > https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/work/t

Suspicious file in /usr/lib64

2019-11-20 Thread Ralf Senderek
Koschei has informed me that Cryptlib fails to build in F31 on the ppc64le platform. The build error is an upackaged file "/usr/lib64/st8bPtV6" which obviously should never exist at all. https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/work/tasks/6682/39076682/build.log I've tried to reproduce the failed bui

Re: Not shipping 3 types of bytecode in python3-libs?

2019-11-20 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 19. 11. 19 v 20:32 Miro Hrončok napsal(a): > On 19. 11. 19 20:20, Adam Jackson wrote: >> In the spirit of positivity and collaboration, I spent a few minutes >> looking at the results given to try to find some easy wins. Here's what >> I found: >> >> python3-libs ships multiple copies of its p

Re: Introducing Square 1

2019-11-20 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 20. 11. 19 v 0:52 John M. Harris Jr napsal(a): > >> -- trimming functionality and/or moving functionality to sub-packages >> or separate package. > For what purpose? Can you provide an example of a package which would benefit > from this, that does not already do something similar? > For exa

python-pyphen license change

2019-11-20 Thread Felix Schwarz
I recently became co-maintainer for python-pyphen and noticed that the package had an incomplete license tag. python-pyphen.spec -License:LGPLv2+ +License:GPLv2+ or LGPLv2+ or MPLv1.1 Felix ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedorapr

Re: Minimization Objective report

2019-11-20 Thread Adam Samalik
On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 11:42 PM Kevin Kofler wrote: > Adam Samalik wrote: > > 1/ A history chart for base images [2] is now being generated — includes > > data since 25 September. It's a bit rough initial implementation, but > it's > > there! > > Almost 2 months of work to save… 0.5%! That does

Re: Minimization Objective report

2019-11-20 Thread Adam Samalik
On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 7:16 PM Robbie Harwood wrote: > Adam Samalik writes: > > > This is the Minimization Objective [0] update. > > > > Status: Discovery phase > > > > == Next phase approval == > > > > Next phase proposal [1] is being voted on by the Council — only positive > > votes so far! >